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MargaretM
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7 May 2012 14:13 |
On his 1929 arrival in Boston he gives name of nearest relative as wife Mrs Lally, 495 Snell? St., Fall River, Mass.
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patchem
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7 May 2012 13:29 |
? Mary E Lally Birth Date: abt 1888 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1963 Age at Death: 75 Registration district: Salford Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 10f Page: 800
Mary E Lally Birth Date: abt 1888 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1965 Age at Death: 77 Registration district: Stockport Inferred County: Cheshire Volume: 10a Page: 657
Mary E Lally Birth Date: abt 1887 Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1964 Age at Death: 77 Registration district: Littleborough Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 10d Page: 88
Littleborough is close to Rochdale if they went 'home'.
Added: And interestingly there is also this death (but the names are not uncommon): Michael Lally Birth Date: abt 1885 Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1950 Age at Death: 65 Registration district: Littleborough Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 10d Page: 78
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MarieCeleste
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7 May 2012 13:20 |
Wonder if this is Michael's baptism?
"England, Cheshire Non-conformist Records, 1671-1900"
name: Michael Lally spouse's name: record place: Stockport, St Paul's Catholic Church, Hyde, Cheshire baptism date: 28 Sep 1884 marriage date: burial date: father's name: Joannis Lally (John) mother's name: Helenae Duddy Lally spouse's father's name: age: age of spouse: gender: Male marital status: abode: page number: 11 image number: 00013 film number: 2068190 digital folder number: 4019569
Source Citation "England, Cheshire Non-conformist Records, 1671-1900," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F3HQ-62N : accessed 7 May 2012), Michael Lally, 1884.
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MarieCeleste
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7 May 2012 13:06 |
Michael also travelled to England alone in 1929:
UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Michael Lally Birth Date: abt 1885 Age: 44 Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States Arrival Date: 1 Apr 1929 Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England Ports of Voyage: Boston Ship Name: Lancastria Shipping Line: Cunard Line Official Number: 145943
He was going to 22 Durham Street, Rochdale. He arrived back in Boston in June.
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Wendy
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7 May 2012 12:56 |
hi
christina lancashire thought mabe michael had but the birth place on the wrong line in 1911 margee on roots some thought that my micheal had died in 1932 it is the right mary as father jonathan turner and her mother remarried and was mary howarth so michael came home with her
thanks wendy
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MargaretM
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7 May 2012 11:58 |
Just wondering where you got Michael's death record, Wendy? According to the incoming passenger list that I posted he returned to England with Mary E. in July 1932.
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Wendy
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7 May 2012 11:30 |
Reggie it is the same michael put cheshire were he was born thanks evreyone i have deleted the other thread thanks again going to see if she married again now
wendy
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MargaretM
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7 May 2012 11:22 |
UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Mary E Lally Name: Mary E Lally Birth Date: abt 1887 Age: 45 Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States Arrival Date: 10 Jul 1932 Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England Ports of Voyage: Boston Ship Name: Britannic Search Ship Database: View the 'Britannic' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping Line: White Star Line Official Number: 162316
With Michael Lally, 47, heading to 22 Durham St., Rochdale. So evidently Michael didn't die in March.
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MarieCeleste
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7 May 2012 11:19 |
New thread:
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1299239
Hi Thanks for all your help yesterday now cant find what happend to mary ellen lally after she went to usa her husband died 12 march 1932 but what did mary do then did she stay or come home to lancashire did they have any children
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wendy
Wendy - best we continue on this one and that you delete the other thread.
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Wendy
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6 May 2012 15:33 |
No i never christina she is my dads aunt his mother was elsie mary ellens sister Reggie yes i have found the rest of family
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Wendy
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6 May 2012 15:23 |
hi christins lancashire her father was jonathan neild turner thank you all so it looks like it was michael lally thanks again
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Christina(Lancashire)
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6 May 2012 15:20 |
Boston Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1943 about Mary Ellen Lally Name: Mary Ellen Lally Arrival Date: 6 Jul 1923 Age: 36years 6months Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887 Gender: Female Ethnic Background: English Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Ship Name: Samaria Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts Friend's Name: Michael Lally Last Residence: England Birthplace: Rochdale, England
Heading for Fall River, Massachusetts.
Name and address of nearest relative in country of origin:- Mrs Howarth, 21 Monmouth st., Rochdale.
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Christina(Lancashire)
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6 May 2012 15:18 |
Did she emmigrate to the USA?
Mary Lally United States Census, 1930 birth: 1888 England immigration: 1923 census: 1930 Fall River,? Bristol,? Massachusetts spouse: Michael Lally
name: Mary Lally event: Census event date: 1930 event place: Fall River, Bristol, Massachusetts gender: Female age: 42 marital status: Married race: White birthplace: England estimated birth year: 1888 immigration year: 1923 relationship to head of household: Wife father's birthplace: England mother's birthplace: England enumeration district number: 0042
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Christina(Lancashire)
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6 May 2012 15:13 |
Michael Lally was born in Hyde, Cheshire. Looks like he wrote the places of birth on the 1911 census on the wrong lines.
1891 England Census about Michael Lally Name: Michael Lally Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Relation: Grandson Gender: Male Where born: Hyde, Cheshire, England Civil parish: Hyde Ecclesiastical parish: St George Town: Hyde County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Stockport Sub-registration district: Hyde ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2789 Folio: 85 Page Number: 35 Household Members: Name Age Ellen Duddy 60 Maria Duddy 34 James Duddy 25 Winnifred Duddy 22 Elizabeth Lally 10 Michael Lally 6
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Christina(Lancashire)
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6 May 2012 15:06 |
1891 census gives her full name as Mary Ellen and her father Jonathan....
Mary Ellen Turner England, Marriages, 1538–1973 birth: 1887 marriage: 28 Jan 1911 St. Martin'S Church,? Castleton,? Lancashire,? England parents: Jonathan Turner spouse: Michael Lally
groom's name: Michael Lally groom's birth date: 1885 groom's age: 26 bride's name: Mary Ellen Turner bride's birth date: 1887 bride's age: 24 marriage date: 28 Jan 1911 marriage place: St. Martin'S Church, Castleton, Lancashire, England groom's father's name: John Lally bride's father's name: Jonathan Turner indexing project (batch) number: I02905-2 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 2113021
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ErikaH
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6 May 2012 15:02 |
If either the 1912 or 1913 marriage was hers, she'd be single on the 1911 census
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6 May 2012 15:01 |
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Do you know who her parents were ?
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patchem
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6 May 2012 14:54 |
1891 England Census Mary Ellen Turner Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Jonathan Turner Mother's Name: Mary E Turner Gender: Female Where born: Rochdale, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Castleton Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Rochdale County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Rochdale Sub-registration district: Castleton Further ED, institution, or vessel: 9a Piece: 3328 Folio: 11 Page Number: 25
Jonathan Turner 29 Mary E Turner 30 Bertha Turner 8 Elizabeth Turner 6 xxx Mary Ellen Turner 4 Frank Turner 2 Emily Turner 1/12
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3328; Folio: 11; Page: 25; GSU roll: 6098438.
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ErikaH
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6 May 2012 14:53 |
1911 - again for reference
Name: Leonard Turner Age in 1911: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900 Relation to Head: Stepson Gender: Male Birth Place: Rochdale, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Rochdale County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 12 Trafford St Rochdale Occupation: School Registration district: Rochdale Registration District Number: 470 Sub-registration district: Castleton No. 2 ED, institution, or vessel: 05 Piece: 24623 Household Members: Name Age Edward Haworth 43 Mary Elisebth Haworth 50 Frank Turner 22 May Turner 18 Ruth Turner 16 Elsie Turner 13 Leonard Turner 11 Harold Haworth 19 Fred Haworth 13
Have you found the other older siblings in 1911?
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ErikaH
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6 May 2012 14:51 |
1901 for reference
Name: Mary E Turner Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Mary E Turner Gender: Female Where born: Rochdale, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Rochdale Ecclesiastical parish: Newbold St Peter Town: Rochdale County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
Registration district: Rochdale Sub-registration district: Castleton Further ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 17 Piece: 3833 Folio: 176 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age Mary E Turner 40 Bertha Turner 18 Elizabeth A Turner 16 Mary E Turner 14 Frank Turner 12 Emily Turner 10 May Turner 8 Ruth Turner 6 Elsie Turner 3 Leonard Turner 1
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