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Eringobragh1916
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14 Aug 2012 20:55 |
Yes I think I can guess...!! Talk about "Hidden lives and Family Secrets"..as a cousin once warned me..You will open up a can of worms" ... well they are still wriggling around to this day..!!!
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Jane
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15 Aug 2012 08:07 |
Hi, I just really don't know what to say at the moment feel shocked about what I have read. I don't know how to thank you both for doing this for me, my quest for Jane Ferry was my real passion why I don't really know, just something wanted me to do it. I have had a researcher from the area where me and Jane Ferry came from and he said he had seen the information that John M Blacklock married Mary Jane Lumsdon and the children had her down as there mother, I think the reason we all thought the Jane who was with John on the 1881 Census which showed the 2 younger male siblings of my Jane Ferry living with the Jane and John Blacklock ( George and Joseph Ferry ) because of this as there parents had died so we thought oh it must be our Jane looking after them, and it goes to show it was'nt. The researcher I had could not find any birth for Jane under the name Ledger, Ferry and Ferrey but I don't know if when she was born in 1851/52 that babies births had to be Registered but Jane was born before Joseph and Isabella Ferry nee Ledger married, the only proof I have seen for Jane with the Ferry's is the 1861 Census and they are named as Ferrey. I will print off all the information and really have a good read of it, and my thanks to you both for what you have sent me, will have a look on the site you have given me to at the pic's. Many kind regards Jane.
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Jane
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15 Aug 2012 08:32 |
Hi MarieCeleste, I have just looked on the above site Trove and put Hannah Laverick's name in search, came up with Journals, Articles & Data Sets, can you help me with where I go from there please. Thanks Jane.
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Eringobragh1916
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15 Aug 2012 08:58 |
Morning Jane...I'm becoming like you with trying to find "your Jane"..!!! Don't know how we missed the JMBlacklock and Mary J Lumsdon marriage first time around but it happens ..so now we go back to the drawing board and see what transpires.
I looked last night for a marriage of a Jane Ferry (variations) initially in NE and Durham (there were a few) then tried to xref those with the 1871 and 1881 Census but it was of no great value ...other than having to purchase lots of MCs.
I havent looked at the site MarieCeleste gave you ..(will have a look now) and get back to let you know how to follow it through..
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Eringobragh1916
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15 Aug 2012 09:08 |
Jane....
When you go into the site put in Hannah's name then when the "page" turns over you need to click on "Digitalised Newspapers" on the toolbar across the top..up comes all the reports..!! Never used the site before and had the same issue as you initially ..!! If you still cant crack it then I can send you by PM the articles.
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MarieCeleste
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15 Aug 2012 13:45 |
Jane - Eringobragh is quite right about how to look at those articles on Trove.
Just one thing, the pictures mentioned are actually in the document I attached to the personal message I sent you last night - if you're having problems with that let me know.
Anyhow, lunch break over - back to work!
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Jane
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16 Aug 2012 21:51 |
Hi, I could'nt get the documents up so havn't seen them yet but I am not that great on the computer so my husband who is better is going to have ago, if he is not successful will get back to you, and I will also have another go at the site. Thankyou both for being so kind and helping me. Kind regards Jane.
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Jane
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16 Aug 2012 22:31 |
Hello, Just wanted to let you know my husband has managed to print the Document and have printed one story from the newspaper, and I had a feeling what it might be and my thoughts were correct, but as my husband sain in thise days they did'nt know any better. Thanks very much to you both going to read the article properly, and thanks very much on what you have done to find my Jane, very very appreciated. Knid regards Jane.
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MarieCeleste
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16 Aug 2012 22:55 |
Hi Jane, as you say we can't judge what happened all those years ago - we don't know what the full circumstances were or what straits people were in.
We haven't yet got to the bottom of what happened to Jane, but we'll keep chipping away at it.
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Jane
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17 Aug 2012 11:49 |
Thanks MarieCeleste the words are nice what you put, makes me feel sad people are put into or think they are in that position so they do something so drastic, I read only from one article but will reay the others the only thing that really puzzled me as Mary Laverick's daughter's death was put as natural couses so found it confusing but what ever happened really sad. Hannah was my g grandmother Rebecca Flecher nee Ferry's older sister and my dad lived with his Gran when young and he said she was lovely, makes you wonder how circumstances can make people behave so differently, but I think it would be very hard for people like Hannah and John Laverick in Australia in those times. Thanks so much for keep trying for Jane Ferry for me, she has to have lived some where? Many knid regards Jane.
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Jane
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28 Aug 2012 17:08 |
Hi, Just wanted to say thanks for the idea of getting marriage lines for Hannah Laverick nee Ferry and John Laverick as did'nt think of it, but hoping if there is names of witnesses one might be my Jane Ferry. Many kind regards Jane
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28 Aug 2012 18:34 |
Hi, Never guess just had a message through from a friend in the North East who said the name of the witness on the marriage lines for Hannah and John was Jane Mar Blacklock and that's the way it was put, i take it the Mar is for Mary, really disapointed but have to keep trying.
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Jane
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31 Aug 2012 18:12 |
More information if possible on Joseph Ferry born 1831 Pelton, I have a crossing for him on the " Virginia " on the 31st May 1869 arriving in New York he was with William Ledger later Bainbridge and John Foster. I am wondering if someone could be kind enough to look up passenger lists before the above crossing to see if Joseph is mentioned on any other ships as my G Grandmother his daughter Rebecca Fletcher nee Ferry born 1866 in PA arrived before the crossing on the " Virginia " so Joseph must have done the journey before. Any help much appreciated Jane.
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Jane
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3 Sep 2012 16:21 |
Hi, I am hoping someone could maybe help me with a lookup of a marriage that I have very little information about. I found the piece of paper in an old file from when I first started and its a marriage between Bernard Connolly and Jane Ferry and the submitter was from Sydney, NSW. There is no other information on it. Any help at all would be great. Thanks Jane.
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Jane
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4 Sep 2012 17:18 |
Message for MarieCeleste from Jane. Hello I took your advice and got a copy of John Laverick's and Hannah Ferry's marriage certificate and one of the witnesses was a Jane Mar. Blacklock, so it didn't help me with Jane Ferry 1851/52 Fatfield. It looks like John M. Blacklock married a Mary Jane Lumsdon and I think her dad may have been James Lumsdon but cannot find anything out about him or her parents, so I am wondering if this was her dad but if Mary Jane Lumsdon was born out of wedlock to Isabella Ledger before she married Joseph Ferry, and then when they married Joseph took Mary Jane as his daughter, droped the Mary and just called her Jane Ferry. Do you think anyone can help me with information on the Lumsdon family? Thanks Kind regards Jane.
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MarieCeleste
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4 Sep 2012 18:27 |
Jane, I don't really follow - if Mary Jane Lumsden was Isabella's child then wouldn't she have been Mary Jane Ledger.
I'm hoping some fresh eyes might find something .....
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Eringobragh1916
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4 Sep 2012 19:31 |
I'm trying ...believe me I'm trying..!!
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Jane
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21 Sep 2012 10:31 |
Hi, Sorry I have just read what you say but have been on holiday up in County Durham where I got a copy of the marriage certificate for John Marshall Blakelock and Mary Jane Lumsdon on the 18th Feb 1871, Residence for both down as Sherburn Hill, Miner, father George Blakelock, Platelayer and brides father is named as James Lumsdon, Miner. so now I know for certain it is not my Jane. While I was up in Durham looked at some info on girls named Jane Ferrey, Jane Ferry and Jane Ledger born about 1851/52 there was some but odd differences to the information I have which is nil really other then the 1861 Census where Jane is down aged 9, other then that nothing really. I keep wondering if maybe she went out to Australia or America as Jane Ferry and married there as she has relatives in both Countries. The only connection I can find with the Blakelocks or Blacklocks is that my Great Grandmother who is either Jane Ferry's sister or possible half sister is that when there parents died Joseph and Isabella Ferry my G Grandmother Rebecca was only about 8 years old and the Blakelocks took her in and gave her a home as maybe they were good neighbours or friends, but what happened to Jane I don't know I just hope one day I may findout, I think what I hoped was that the Jane I saw with John Blakelock was her sister and had looked out for Rebecca and siblings George and Joseph when there mam and dad died, but there you go I was wrong. It does look as if Jane Ferry 1851/52 was born before Joseph and Isabella married in 1854 but maybe to be old fashoned they had been courting and it happened sooner then later. Thanks for all your help even my trip to Durham made me know wiser. Kind regards Jane.
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23 Oct 2012 19:58 |
I am looking for more information on Joseph Ferry 1862 born in Fatfield, County Durham, father Joseph Ferry, mother Isabella Ferry nee Ledger. I have found that Joseph left for America on the " Hebernia" from Liverpool and arriving in Baltimore, Maryland on the 15th September. I have info that it could be in 1884- Naturalization and he had links to Union Township. Alleghany County, PA. I was hoping maybe someone could be kind enough to look -up any information to see if Joseph ever married in PA and had a family. I hope I have followed the correct thread. thanks Kind regards Jane.
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MarieCeleste
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23 Oct 2012 20:02 |
Jane - I posted this much earlier in your thread but there's no guarantee that it's your Joseph:
Baltimore, Passenger Lists, 1820-1948 and 1954-1957 Name: Joseph Ferry Arrival Date: 15 Sep 1881 Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Gender: Male Race: English Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Ship Name: Hebernian Port of Arrival: Baltimore, Maryland
He was a labourer and was heading to Oskalooga, Iowa.
It only gives England as the birthplace, nothing more specific.
I searched extensively the last time this was posted but could sadly not find any definite trace of him after this arrival.
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