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MarieCeleste
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31 Mar 2012 22:23 |
Think it's fair to say John Gallagher's military career was varied and interesting! Do come back with another challenge.
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Sylann
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31 Mar 2012 19:22 |
Just been reading the service record makes good reading
The only thing is it's my cousins tree my isn't as interesting I'd add this info now to his tree as I think it has been proven
Thank you
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MarieCeleste
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31 Mar 2012 19:14 |
You're welcome Sylvia - I love ones like this! I think we've circumnavigated the globe!
I've tried finding records for Margaret's family but no luck yet.
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Sylann
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31 Mar 2012 19:11 |
Yes that is right
Thank you for all your help
I'll have a look at the service record
Give yourself a pat on the back for sticking at it and sorting it
Sylvia
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31 Mar 2012 19:07 |
Good one, Marie Celeste! I'm sure you're right, I searched high and low in Canadian censuses for them with no luck.
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MarieCeleste
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31 Mar 2012 19:06 |
This 1901 seems to complete the circle:
WINDOWS, Christopher Head Married M 21 1880 Iron Moulder N K WINDOWS, Elizabeth A Wife Married F 20 1881 India GREGORY, Maria Mother-In-Law Widow F 37 1864 Tailoress Canada GREGORY, Alice Sister-In-Law Single F 18 1883 Nail Maker Leicester Leicestershire GREGORY, Fred Brother-In-Law Single M 16 1885 Wood Nose Maker Leicester Leicestershire GREGORY, Florence Sister-In-Law Single F 14 1887 Cap Maker Leicester Leicestershire GREGORY, Mary M Sister-In-Law Single F 12 1889 Warrington Lancashire GALLEGHER, Joseph Uncle Single M 26 1875 Drummer 2nd Batt M/chster Regiment India
Registration District: Manchester Civil Parish: Manchester
Address: 36, Elias Street, Manchester County: Lancashire
** I love Fred Gregory's occupation! (but it's sad that people would need them).
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MarieCeleste
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31 Mar 2012 18:52 |
Sylann, I've just sent you the service records by pm - when you see where he served and that he was discharged to Manchester I think it's pretty certain it's the right man.
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Sylann
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31 Mar 2012 18:48 |
Does look like him
Just trying to look at what I have I know the gregory family Finished up in Manchester and William died in Warrington and possibly the two families came back to Manchester This service record shows John was from Ireland to corespond with the censuses you've found
Looking good from here
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MarieCeleste
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31 Mar 2012 18:40 |
Possibly John's service record, it's the correct regiment:
British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Transcription First name(s): John Last name: GALLAGHER Calculated year of birth: 1839 Parish of birth: Saint Johns Town of birth: Sligo County of birth: Sligo Age at attestation: 15 years Attestation date: 25 October 1854 Attestation corps: Attestation soldier number: Discharge rank: Drummer << This fits the Canadian records. Discharge corps: 17th Foot Discharge soldier number: 3535
The National Archives reference: WO97 / 1964 / 36
Having had a look through the record he served in Malta, Crimea, North America and India. Doesn't have any next of kin, but pretty sure this is the right man, especially as he was discharged to Manchester.
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Sylann
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31 Mar 2012 18:38 |
That is very possible as the family did eventually finish up in Manchester
Thank you I'll have a good look at that
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MarieCeleste
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31 Mar 2012 18:33 |
Look at the grandaughter's surname in 1891!!
GALLAGHER, John Head Married M 50 1841 Presser Ireland GALLAGHER, Margaret Wife Married F 50 1841 Presser Ireland GALLAGHER, Catherine Daughter Single F 21 1870 Tailoress East India GALLAGHER, James Thomas Son Single M 15 1876 Warrington GREGORY, Mary Margaret Granddaughter F 2 1889 Warrington
Registration District: Manchester Civil Parish: Manchester Municipal Borough: Manchester
Address: 22, Burton Street, Manchester County: Lancashire
** They seem to get a bit mixed up about where their children were born!
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MarieCeleste
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31 Mar 2012 18:23 |
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Name: Patrick Joseph Gallagher Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: 19 Aug 1872 Baptism/Christening Place: Lucknow, Bengal, India Birth Date: 04 Aug 1872 Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: John Gallagher Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Margaret Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C75022-9 System Origin: India-EASy Source Film Number: 499047 Reference Number: v 141 p 222 Collection: India, Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BUT, there's a chance this could be him in England in 1881:
GALLAGHER, John Head Married M 41 1840 Warehouse Porter Ireland GALLAGHER, Margaret Wife Married F 40 1841 Ireland GALLAGHER, John Son Single M 15 1866 Apprentice Packing Warehouse Aldershot Hampshire GALLAGHER, Catherine Daughter Single F 11 1870 Scholar Ireland GALLAGHER, Patrick Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar India GALLAGHER, James T Son Single M 6 1875 Scholar Bengal
Registration District: Manchester Civil Parish: Manchester
Address: 9, Iron St, Manchester County: Lancashire
The birth for James Thomas is also on FamilySearch. He was born Murree, Bengal - same place as Bridget Maria married. Is this a coincidence?
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MarieCeleste
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31 Mar 2012 18:19 |
It was suggested on the other thread that the 1901 may not be the correct family. Here's the birth details from the 1901:
John born 9 Dec 1834 New Brunswick Margaret b 9 Mar 1844 Prince Edward Island Lily b 25 Dec 1880 New Brunswick Gertrude b 28 Oct 1883 New Brunswick
I'd suggest trying to work forward from what we know of John, Margaret and Maria. However, I've searched for ages and can't find anyone remotely suitable in the 1871 - it's possible they were already in India by then.
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Sylann
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31 Mar 2012 18:11 |
Sorry for the mix up
On my other thread I was trying to find the Canadian Census for John & Margaret Gallagher this was found on the 1901 census
John Gallagher 66 Margaret 57 born Ireland Lily 20 Gertrude 17 If this is the right family their could be more children ?? as Bridget was born 1862
Is their any chance of finding this family in earlier censuses
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MarieCeleste
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29 Mar 2012 20:51 |
New thread for John and Margaret in case anyone adds here and duplicates.
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1295958
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Sylann
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29 Mar 2012 15:24 |
Just looking at the marriage for William & Bridget Grooms father N Gregory?? I had it down as Samuel ?? Have I got it wrong
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Sylann
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29 Mar 2012 15:14 |
Sorry for the late reply I go off line about 9pm otherwise I might be on all night
Thank you for the info you have given me I'll have a good look at it
It looks like the right family
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MarieCeleste
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28 Mar 2012 22:50 |
Quebec, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967 Name: John Gallagher Spouse: Margaret Blythe Event Year: 1861 Event: Mariage (Marriage) Religion: Methodist Place of Worship or Institution: Québec (Methodist) (Québec (Wesleyan Methodist Church)) Province: Québec
John Gallagher xxxx 17 Regiment Quebec and Margaret Blythe of the same place, spinster, were united in marriage by authority of the publication of banns in Quebec. on 17 December 1861 in the presence of witnesses.
Witnesses appear to be Byrne and M Garety.
xxxx means I can't make the word out.
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MarieCeleste
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28 Mar 2012 22:25 |
Possible baptism for Bridget - father's name is John:
Quebec, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967 Name: Bridget M Gallagher Event Year: 1862 Event: Naissance (Birth) Religion: Catholique Place of Worship or Institution: Québec (Saint Patrick) Province: Québec
... I'll see if I can decipher the writing,EDIT - below is the best I can make out:
On 23 February 1862 we undersigned have baptised Bridget Maria born 17th inst. of the lawful marriage of John Gallagher (Drummer in the Seventeenth Regiment) and of Margaret Blythe. Sponsors Michael Garrity, Julia Crowle (or Craule?) undersigned with the father.
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Vera
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28 Mar 2012 21:51 |
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GREGORY, Samuel M 35 1806 VIEW cotton lace maker journeyman GREGORY, Mary F 35 1806 Nottinghamshire VIEW GREGORY, George M 13 1828 Nottinghamshire VIEW GREGORY, Elizabeth F 11 1830 Nottinghamshire VIEW GREGORY, Mary F 5 1836 Nottinghamshire VIEW GREGORY, Rebecca F 3 1838 Nottinghamshire VIEW GREGORY, Samuel M 1 1840 Nottinghamshire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Piece: 858 Book/Folio: 6/53 Page: 16 Registration District: Radford Union Civil Parish: Lenton Municipal Borough: Address: Hill's Buildings, Lenton County: Nottinghamshire Regards Vera
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