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Help please, a 1911 census look up

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Ann

Ann Report 7 Mar 2012 15:55

Hi Jax,
My neighbour has was told by her late mother about them & the son born to them is the right one.
There were Bampton’s living in Portsmouth, may be she is one of them?
Thanks Ann

jax

jax Report 7 Mar 2012 16:12

There was only one Rose Lydia Bampton born. only one Rose Lydia Bampton married

So now are you saying you are not looking for Rose Lydia ?

Do you have the marriage cert from 1915? giving her age and fathers name?

jax

jax Report 7 Mar 2012 16:30

Name: Rose Lydia Byles
Birth Date: 21 Oct 1887
Date of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1976
Age at Death: 88
Registration district: Droxford
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 20
Page: 0198

Name: Rose Lydia Bampton
Date of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1887
Registration district: South Stoneham
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 59 (click to see others on page

BarbaraFromYorkshire

BarbaraFromYorkshire Report 7 Mar 2012 17:48

is this the Rosa you mean ?

1911 England Census 1911 England Census
Name: Rosa Brenton
Age in 1911: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Visitor
Gender: Female
Birth Place: South Stoneham, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: St Mary
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address: 14 Northbrook Road, Nichols Town, Southampton
Marital Status: Single
Registration district: Southampton
Registration District Number: 99
Sub-registration district: Southampton Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Household schedule number: 253
Piece: 5967
Household Members: Name Age
James White 57
Elizabeth White 57
William White 25
>>>Rosa Brenton 24
Mary Rowe 86


Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 5967; Schedule Number: 253; .

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she may have married

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Rosa Brenton Name: Rosa Brenton
Date of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1911
Registration district: Southampton
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume Number: 2c
Page Number: 110


others on page

>>>>>>>> Rosa Brenton
Edmund Morrison
Daisy K Payne
>>>>>>>>William H R White
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She is with her Parents in 1901
AND
1891 census

Census 1891 England Census
Name: Rosa Brenton
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Frederick Brenton
Mother's Name: Annie Brenton
Gender: Female
Where born: South Stoneham, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: South Stoneham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: Southampton
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: South Stoneham
Sub-registration district: South Stoneham
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 925
Folio: 79
Page Number: 42
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick Brenton 28
Annie Brenton 30
Rosa Brenton 4
Emily Amelia Brenton 2
Frederick Brenton 2/12


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 925; Folio: 79; Page: 42; GSU roll: 6096035.



So this ROSA hasn't been mistranscribed---and is ROSA BRENTON and not ROSE BAMPTON !!

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Has your friend got any BMD certificates ? How did you get to Rose ? was it through one of he children if so what name and when / where were they born ?

Barbara x

jax

jax Report 7 Mar 2012 18:39

This is the family Barbara as per the opening post

1891 England Census
about Kate Bampton Name: Kate Bampton
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Frank Bampton
Mother's name: Kate Bampton
Gender: Female
Where born: Bitterne, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: South Stoneham
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Saviour
Town: Bitterne
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: South Stoneham
Sub-registration district: South Stoneham
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 924
Folio: 39
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Frank Bampton 38 (General Labourer) Shirey Hampshire
Kate Bampton 46 Romsey Hampshire
William T Bampton 13
Frank Bampton 10
Kate Bampton 8
Harry G Bampton 6
Rose Bampton 3
Charles Pragnell 32 (Visitor)
(Res: 2 Spring Cottage, Bitterne)

There are no other Rose Bampton's born at that time so if this is the Rose you are looking for she married in 1908 not 1915

jax

jax Report 7 Mar 2012 18:48

1901
Name: Rose L Bampton
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Frank Bampton
Mother's Name: Kate Bampton
Gender: Female
Where born: Bitterne, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Bitterne
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Saviour
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Registration district: South Stoneham
Sub-registration district: South Stoneham
Frank Bampton 48
Kate Bampton 56
Helen L Bampton 26
Frank Bampton 20
Harry G Bampton 16
Rose L Bampton 13


Ann

Ann Report 7 Mar 2012 23:15

Thank you all very much for your help, I have printed all the info & will see my neighbour tomorrow, & ask her if she has anything more on the family.

Someone queried about the Marriage of Rose “in different county from where she was born? ”Rose was the sister of neighbour grandmother Kate who also didn’t marry in South Stoneham,Kate Bampton Married Walter James Harding at St Paul’s Church Chippenham 21 May 1904.

Thanks again.
Ann

jax

jax Report 7 Mar 2012 23:41

Yes I queried the marriage...not that I would have thought there a problem, if there was not an obvious marriage in 1908 in her full name of Rose Lydia . If you check on freebmd you will see there were no other Rose Lydia's nor any Rose's born around that time in that area or anywhere near

jax

jax Report 7 Mar 2012 23:56

This could be the one who married in 1915

Births Mar 1891 (>99%)
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Bampton Rose Amelia Wandsworth 1d 637


Living in Croydon Surrey on the 1911


??
Name: Rose A Stevens
Birth Date: abt 1891
Date of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1963
Age at Death: 72
Registration district: Andover
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 70

There is another Rose Bampton born 1891 but she died when she was 2

Ann

Ann Report 8 Mar 2012 23:57

Hi Jax
Thank you for your help & suggestions.

I think I have solved the mystery of Rose Brampton, the info I was given was she married William Stevens in 1911 & had a son who died in 1939, I did find all this.
I then did a search & found that this was a second marriage [not confirmed] the first marriage was Free BMD Marriages Jun 1911 Bampton William J * & Giddings Rose Devizes, [ Also info on the UK free BMD for Wiltshire ]* he was pos son of Frank Bampton & Kate Chapman of South Stoneham,
This fits in with info I was given, Free BMD Births Mar 1912 Bampton Kathleen R M Giddens . S.Stoneham 2c 180

No death found for Bampton William J/ John right age 1911-1915, couldn’t see a divorce in Ancestry index, or in the Commonwealth War Graves Commission website maybe they just went their separate ways ?

I have told my neighbour about the above & suggest that marriage certificates might confirm the info.

Now I an going to look for the other children Frank Bampton & Kate Chapman apart from the Rose Bayles you found, I am getting this looked up.

Thanks again Ann

:-)

Ann

Ann Report 12 Mar 2012 09:45

Thank you everyone who has helped with this family, please can someone find in the 1911 census ,Henry BAMPTON born South Stoneham 1885, I have been told he married but I don’t know who to?

thank you,
Ann

Ann

Ann Report 12 Mar 2012 14:23

Please has anyone time to look for Henry, see above,

Jax
someone checked the marriage for me in Alverstoke Church of Rose Lydia Bampton & Joseph Robert Byles, yes you were right,
You get another gold star. :-)
Ann E

jax

jax Report 12 Mar 2012 14:42

1911 census - household transcription
Person: BAMPTON, Henry
Institution: 3rd Ko Hussars, 3RD KINGS OWN HUSSARS, ROBERTS HEIGHTS, PRETORIA, TRANSVAAL, SOUTH AFRICA
Military details: Private 3rd K O Hussars


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BAMPTON, Henry Single 26 1885 Battern Hants VIEW



Thanks for the gold star :-D

jax

jax Report 12 Mar 2012 14:49

Name: Ethel M Harding
Spouse Surname: Bampton
Date of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1917
Registration district: Bath
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume Number: 5c
Page Number: 936
Find Spouse: Henry G Bampton


Births Mar 1885 (>99%)
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Bampton Henry George S. Stoneham 2c 65

Ann

Ann Report 12 Mar 2012 15:28

Thank you very much Jax, that is wonderful, my neighbour will be over the moon, & you get vet another gold star ;-)
Ann E