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7 Mar 2012 15:55 |
Hi Jax, My neighbour has was told by her late mother about them & the son born to them is the right one. There were Bampton’s living in Portsmouth, may be she is one of them? Thanks Ann
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7 Mar 2012 16:12 |
There was only one Rose Lydia Bampton born. only one Rose Lydia Bampton married
So now are you saying you are not looking for Rose Lydia ?
Do you have the marriage cert from 1915? giving her age and fathers name?
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7 Mar 2012 16:30 |
Name: Rose Lydia Byles Birth Date: 21 Oct 1887 Date of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1976 Age at Death: 88 Registration district: Droxford Inferred County: Hampshire Volume: 20 Page: 0198
Name: Rose Lydia Bampton Date of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1887 Registration district: South Stoneham Inferred County: Hampshire Volume: 2c Page: 59 (click to see others on page
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7 Mar 2012 17:48 |
is this the Rosa you mean ?
1911 England Census 1911 England Census Name: Rosa Brenton Age in 1911: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887 Relation to Head: Visitor Gender: Female Birth Place: South Stoneham, Hampshire, England Civil parish: St Mary County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street Address: 14 Northbrook Road, Nichols Town, Southampton Marital Status: Single Registration district: Southampton Registration District Number: 99 Sub-registration district: Southampton Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 33 Household schedule number: 253 Piece: 5967 Household Members: Name Age James White 57 Elizabeth White 57 William White 25 >>>Rosa Brenton 24 Mary Rowe 86
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 5967; Schedule Number: 253; .
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she may have married
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 about Rosa Brenton Name: Rosa Brenton Date of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1911 Registration district: Southampton Inferred County: Hampshire Volume Number: 2c Page Number: 110
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>>>>>>>> Rosa Brenton Edmund Morrison Daisy K Payne >>>>>>>>William H R White ======================================================
She is with her Parents in 1901 AND 1891 census
Census 1891 England Census Name: Rosa Brenton Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Frederick Brenton Mother's Name: Annie Brenton Gender: Female Where born: South Stoneham, Hampshire, England Civil parish: South Stoneham Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke Town: Southampton County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: South Stoneham Sub-registration district: South Stoneham ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 925 Folio: 79 Page Number: 42 Household Members: Name Age Frederick Brenton 28 Annie Brenton 30 Rosa Brenton 4 Emily Amelia Brenton 2 Frederick Brenton 2/12 Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 925; Folio: 79; Page: 42; GSU roll: 6096035.
So this ROSA hasn't been mistranscribed---and is ROSA BRENTON and not ROSE BAMPTON !!
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Has your friend got any BMD certificates ? How did you get to Rose ? was it through one of he children if so what name and when / where were they born ?
Barbara x
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7 Mar 2012 18:39 |
This is the family Barbara as per the opening post
1891 England Census about Kate Bampton Name: Kate Bampton Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Frank Bampton Mother's name: Kate Bampton Gender: Female Where born: Bitterne, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: South Stoneham Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Saviour Town: Bitterne County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration district: South Stoneham Sub-registration district: South Stoneham ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 924 Folio: 39 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age Frank Bampton 38 (General Labourer) Shirey Hampshire Kate Bampton 46 Romsey Hampshire William T Bampton 13 Frank Bampton 10 Kate Bampton 8 Harry G Bampton 6 Rose Bampton 3 Charles Pragnell 32 (Visitor) (Res: 2 Spring Cottage, Bitterne)
There are no other Rose Bampton's born at that time so if this is the Rose you are looking for she married in 1908 not 1915
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7 Mar 2012 18:48 |
1901 Name: Rose L Bampton Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Frank Bampton Mother's Name: Kate Bampton Gender: Female Where born: Bitterne, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Bitterne Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Saviour County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration district: South Stoneham Sub-registration district: South Stoneham Frank Bampton 48 Kate Bampton 56 Helen L Bampton 26 Frank Bampton 20 Harry G Bampton 16 Rose L Bampton 13
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Ann
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7 Mar 2012 23:15 |
Thank you all very much for your help, I have printed all the info & will see my neighbour tomorrow, & ask her if she has anything more on the family.
Someone queried about the Marriage of Rose “in different county from where she was born? ”Rose was the sister of neighbour grandmother Kate who also didn’t marry in South Stoneham,Kate Bampton Married Walter James Harding at St Paul’s Church Chippenham 21 May 1904.
Thanks again. Ann
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7 Mar 2012 23:41 |
Yes I queried the marriage...not that I would have thought there a problem, if there was not an obvious marriage in 1908 in her full name of Rose Lydia . If you check on freebmd you will see there were no other Rose Lydia's nor any Rose's born around that time in that area or anywhere near
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7 Mar 2012 23:56 |
This could be the one who married in 1915
Births Mar 1891 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bampton Rose Amelia Wandsworth 1d 637
Living in Croydon Surrey on the 1911
?? Name: Rose A Stevens Birth Date: abt 1891 Date of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1963 Age at Death: 72 Registration district: Andover Inferred County: Hampshire Volume: 6b Page: 70 There is another Rose Bampton born 1891 but she died when she was 2
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Ann
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8 Mar 2012 23:57 |
Hi Jax Thank you for your help & suggestions.
I think I have solved the mystery of Rose Brampton, the info I was given was she married William Stevens in 1911 & had a son who died in 1939, I did find all this. I then did a search & found that this was a second marriage [not confirmed] the first marriage was Free BMD Marriages Jun 1911 Bampton William J * & Giddings Rose Devizes, [ Also info on the UK free BMD for Wiltshire ]* he was pos son of Frank Bampton & Kate Chapman of South Stoneham, This fits in with info I was given, Free BMD Births Mar 1912 Bampton Kathleen R M Giddens . S.Stoneham 2c 180
No death found for Bampton William J/ John right age 1911-1915, couldn’t see a divorce in Ancestry index, or in the Commonwealth War Graves Commission website maybe they just went their separate ways ?
I have told my neighbour about the above & suggest that marriage certificates might confirm the info.
Now I an going to look for the other children Frank Bampton & Kate Chapman apart from the Rose Bayles you found, I am getting this looked up. Thanks again Ann
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12 Mar 2012 09:45 |
Thank you everyone who has helped with this family, please can someone find in the 1911 census ,Henry BAMPTON born South Stoneham 1885, I have been told he married but I don’t know who to?
thank you, Ann
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Ann
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12 Mar 2012 14:23 |
Please has anyone time to look for Henry, see above,
Jax someone checked the marriage for me in Alverstoke Church of Rose Lydia Bampton & Joseph Robert Byles, yes you were right, You get another gold star. :-) Ann E
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12 Mar 2012 14:42 |
1911 census - household transcription Person: BAMPTON, Henry Institution: 3rd Ko Hussars, 3RD KINGS OWN HUSSARS, ROBERTS HEIGHTS, PRETORIA, TRANSVAAL, SOUTH AFRICA Military details: Private 3rd K O Hussars
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BAMPTON, Henry Single 26 1885 Battern Hants VIEW
Thanks for the gold star :-D
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12 Mar 2012 14:49 |
Name: Ethel M Harding Spouse Surname: Bampton Date of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1917 Registration district: Bath Inferred County: Somerset Volume Number: 5c Page Number: 936 Find Spouse: Henry G Bampton
Births Mar 1885 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bampton Henry George S. Stoneham 2c 65
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12 Mar 2012 15:28 |
Thank you very much Jax, that is wonderful, my neighbour will be over the moon, & you get vet another gold star ;-) Ann E
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