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Sumner 1911 census required please

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Vera

Vera Report 1 Mar 2012 14:24

1861

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PENNINGTON, Samuel Head Married M 56 1805 Agricultural Labourer
Brougham in Cartmel
Lancashire VIEW
PENNINGTON, Sarah Wife Married F 55 1806
Lindal in Furness
Lancashire VIEW
PENNINGTON, Samuel Son Unmarried M 19 1842 Agricultural Labourer
Cartmel
Lancashire VIEW
PENNINGTON, James Son M 13 1848
...
Westmorland VIEW
PENNINGTON, Ann E Daughter F 11 1850 Scholar
Cartmel
Lancashire VIEW

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Piece:
3173 Folio:
34 Page:
5 Registration District:
Ulverston

Civil Parish:
Hawkshead & Monk Conistone with Skelwith Municipal Borough:
Address:
Rowlandson Ground, Hawkshead & Monk Conistone With Skelwith County:
Lancashire


Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 1 Mar 2012 14:22

Hi
Not sure if this is the family you are after....as I have come late to your thread...
1851

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PENNINGTON, Samuel Head Married M 44 1807 Lab Wood Cutter
Cartmel
Lancashire VIEW
PENNINGTON, Sarrah Wife Married F 43 1808
Dalton
Lancashire VIEW
PENNINGTON, John Son Unmarried M 20 1831 Lab Wood Cuttor
Cartmel
Lancashire VIEW
PENNINGTON, Sarrah Daughter F 14 1837
Cartmel
Lancashire VIEW
PENNINGTON, Mary Daughter F 11 1840
Colton
Lancashire VIEW
PENNINGTON, Samuel Son M 9 1842 Scholar
Cartmel
Lancashire VIEW
PENNINGTON, Thomas Son M 6 1845
Cartmel
Lancashire VIEW
PENNINGTON, James Son M 3 1848
Cartmel
Lancashire VIEW
PENNINGTON, Ann E Daughter F 1 1850
Cartmel
Lancashire VIEW

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Piece:
2274 Folio:
40 Page:
12 Registration District:
Ulverstone

Civil Parish:
Staveley Municipal Borough:
Address:
Cabin In Scatle Wood, Staveley County:
Lancashire

Regards Vera

grannyfranny

grannyfranny Report 1 Mar 2012 14:00

Further info added to the first post, and thoughts to the last post.
Could someone kindly look at the family in 1851 and 61?

grannyfranny

grannyfranny Report 16 Feb 2012 13:20

Ah! Many thanks for that Ann.

So what is the order for inheriting with no will?

Parents
Brothers and sisters/ their offspring
?


The people on the list got 1 fifth each, which was divided amongst their
issue.

I have added further found info to the first post.

Mary is presumably a descendant of this Pennington family. Surely any mothers family would also be entitled?

Could someone kindly find the family in 1851 and 61 to confirm the relationships?

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 16 Feb 2012 12:56

probate ties the Dudson family in!

Pennington Mary of 5 Cubas-Cottages Ulverston Lancashire spinster died 15 July 1954 at Stanley Hospital Ulverston Administration Manchester 26 October to John Thomas Dudson service engineer Effects £741-10s-10d

so it looks like she did not leave an actual will but sometimes the letters of administration do give extra information

grannyfranny

grannyfranny Report 15 Feb 2012 22:24

Don't know where it was proved, but the solicitors name is in Barrow in Furness, and the account is dated 16th April 1955.

If you see this, Ann, I'd appreciate an enquiry for me, I've already been over there on Tuesday.

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 15 Feb 2012 14:06

not sure if they have copies of the actual wills in Lancaster. In the LRO there are big bound copies beautifully written of all the wills proved at Lancaster and Liverpool for at least up to the 1930's. Not sure about later wills.

I may be going tomorrow as we will have no electricity in our area and therefore no heating or computer!

grannyfranny

grannyfranny Report 15 Feb 2012 00:00

Thank you, but if it's in Lancaster, I'm up there every other week too.

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 14 Feb 2012 22:50

I would say it would be more than a bit unlikely that Mary was born 1840

As Tempest says - it would probably be worth getting the will

If you know if there was a will proved at Lancaster I could have a look in the LRO whenever I go which is probably quicker than waiting for it by post. I think they have copies upto about 1965

grannyfranny

grannyfranny Report 14 Feb 2012 22:44

Thanks tempest. Yes, I was considering getting the will, as you say, it should explain who they all are.

tempest

tempest Report 14 Feb 2012 21:01

possible death??

the only one in Ulverston, Polly can be short for Mary

BMD Search result details
Civil Registration event: Death


Name: PENNINGTON, Polly
Registration District: Ulverston
County: Lancashire
Year of Registration: 1954
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death: 84
Volume No: 10F
Page No: 525

do you have a copy of the actual will? It might be worth spending the £6 to get it

this link explains how to order it

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1235425?page=0

I can really recommend doing this; from by Grandmother's bag of papers I had a copy of an account from my 2 x great uncle's probate with names and amounts and only by getting the actual will/ probate did things make sense of who the people named actually were

grannyfranny

grannyfranny Report 14 Feb 2012 19:20

Thank you for your help, LA. That's filled in a number of spaces for me.

Now finally, do you think that Mary P (with the will) was the one born in 1840?
A bit unlikely given the date of death. Does anyone have any other ideas please?

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 14 Feb 2012 00:08

1881

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
John GIBSON Head M Male 38 Walney, Lancashire, England General Lab
Sarah GIBSON Wife M Female 44 Newby Bridge, Lancashire, England
Annie GIBSON Daur Female 9 Barrow, Lancashire, England Scholar
Ellen GIBSON Daur Female 8 Barrow, Lancashire, England Scholar
John S. GIBSON Son Male 4 Barrow, Lancashire, England
Thomas C. WILSON Boarder U Male 17 Ulverston, Lancashire, England Stonemason

Source Information:
Dwelling 43 Duncan St
Census Place Barrow In Furness, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1342024
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4286 / 79
Page Number 59

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 14 Feb 2012 00:07

marriage of john Gibson & Jane Nuttall

Cumbria Marriage indexes for the years: 1900
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
GIBSON John S NUTTALL Jane E St Mark, Barrow in Furness Barrow C6/2/223

birth of John S Gibson mmn = pennington

Cumbria Birth indexes for the years: 1876
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
GIBSON John Samuel Dalton Barrow PENNINGTON D/51/252

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 13 Feb 2012 23:47

Elizabeth Nuttall Gibson - married name Shand - mmn Nuttall

Cumbria Birth indexes for the years: 1902
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
GIBSON Elizabeth Nuttall Barrow Barrow NUTTALL B/94/237

grannyfranny

grannyfranny Report 13 Feb 2012 21:54

Many thanks for looking mike, that's cleared up a couple of bits for me.

Mike *

Mike * Report 13 Feb 2012 21:34

Not seeing a death for Sept Quarter of 1954

Posting this in case it comes in handy .... but then Pennington may have been her married name


Household: 1881

Walter POMFRET Head M Male 26 Preston, Lancashire, England Rag & Paper Merchant
Emma POMFRET Wife M Female 27 Preston, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth A. POMFRET Daur U Female 4 Preston, Lancashire, England
Ada POMFRET Daur U Female 2 Preston, Lancashire, England
Margaret POMFRET Daur U Female 11 m Preston, Lancashire, England
>>>>>>>>>>Mary A. PENNINGTON Serv U Female 16 Ulverston, Lancashire, England Domestic Servant

:
Dwelling 27 St Ignatius Sq
Census Place Preston, Lancashire, England

Mike *

Mike * Report 13 Feb 2012 21:14

The only Edna Highley I can see but the area is a lot different
and mother's maiden name is Brown

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Births Dec 1916
Highley Edna D - Brown- Wokingham 2c 653



EDIT :
Highley might be her married name though.

grannyfranny

grannyfranny Report 13 Feb 2012 21:06

Don't know any of that, we've only got this Estate Account, nothing more.

Sounds as though she's willed her estate to her siblings, all of whom have died, and the estate is divided between their descendants. The document does give percentages. The 'itemised' folk get 1 fifth each.

Mike *

Mike * Report 13 Feb 2012 21:02

So who is Mary Pennington ?

Is she Mrs Pennington ? if so who did she marry ?

How old was she when she died?