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19 Mar 2012 17:11 |
That'll be them, Dea, thanks. He was Robert C, and she would be born at Haverthwaite.
Yes, the dates are rather strange. I'll check for a second marriage.
Edit. The mother would have been 47 in 1884, so not impossible.
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Dea
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19 Mar 2012 17:00 |
This is the only one I can find on 1911 which fits the names and marriage date but it doesn't look to fit the age of 'your' Annie?? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SUMNER, Robert Charles Head Married M 35 1876 Railway Coal Porter Lanc Preston SUMNER, Annie Wife Married F 27 1884 Lanc Huverthwaite
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 25434 Reference: RG14PN25434 RG78PN1454 RD477 SD3 ED32 SN119 Registration District: Fylde Sub District: Blackpool Enumeration District: 32 Parish: Blackpool Address: 13 Orme Street Blackpool County: Lancashire Dea x
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19 Mar 2012 16:07 |
Nearly done now, thanks to some excellent help on here!
Just the last bit now.
From number 3, issue of John Pennington.
John and Edna Broughton are his grandchildren, Edna married Harry Highley in 1927. Their mother appears to be Sarah Pennington b 1859 in Backbarrow, married Richard Broughton in 1880 in Skipton.
Annie Pennington is one of John's daughters, married Robert Sumner in 1910 in Preston. Can some kind person please look up this couple in 1911, as I can't find a birth or baptism for Annie?
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Vera
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4 Mar 2012 14:51 |
Glad to help. Yes, certainly is amazing the time the family lived in the cottage.....and unusual I would think.
Regards Vera
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grannyfranny
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4 Mar 2012 14:48 |
Thanks Vera, well done!
I have found 6 baptisms altogether on lancsopc to Mary and William Long. 1832 Mary, 1834 John, both of Graythwaite, bap Finsthwaite. 1835 Nicholas, 1837 Richard, 1839 Agnes, 1841 William, those bap at Ulverston. Can't find a baptism for Thomas on lancsopc.
Interesting to think the family may have lived in that cottage for 100 years!
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Vera
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4 Mar 2012 14:43 |
1841
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LONG, William M 35 1806 VIEW LONG, Mary F 30 1811 VIEW LONG, Mary F 9 1832 Lancashire VIEW LONG, John M 7 1834 Lancashire VIEW LONG, Richard M 3 1838 Lancashire VIEW LONG, Agnes F 2 1839 Lancashire VIEW LONG, William M 0 (3 months) 1841 Lancashire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Piece: 531 Book/Folio: 13/11 Page: 15 Registration District: Ulverston Civil Parish: Ulverston Municipal Borough: Address: Dragleybeck, Ulverston County: Lancashire Regards Vera
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4 Mar 2012 14:39 |
1851 I think this is Williams wife Marys mother and siblings...Look at the address!!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LONG, Mary Head Widow F 40 1811 Underbarrow Westmorland VIEW LONG, Richard Son M 13 1838 Ag Labourer Ulverstone Lancashire VIEW LONG, Agnes Daughter F 11 1840 Scholar Ulverstone Lancashire VIEW LONG, Thomas Son M 7 1844 Scholar Ulverstone Lancashire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Piece: 2274 Folio: 402 Page: 14 Registration District: Ulverstone Civil Parish: Ulverstone Municipal Borough: Address: Oubas Hill, Ulverstone County: Lancashire Regards Vera
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lancashireAnn
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4 Mar 2012 14:03 |
oops - sorry missed that!
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grannyfranny
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4 Mar 2012 13:42 |
Well Richard and Thomas Long are Will P's BIL staying with them in 1871, both say they are married, though Thos is still there in 1881 and says he is single.
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lancashireAnn
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4 Mar 2012 13:05 |
I think her mother (Mary Long) had a few siblings
lan-opc gives what must be the baptism of Mary (abode Garithwiate) and there are several other children with what appears to be the same parents
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just had another quick look and Mary is the only one with abode Graithwaite - all the ones before and more importantly the one after have the abode of Elmwell
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4 Mar 2012 12:57 |
Now this IS interesting and new, Vera!
The cottage is actually OUBAS, I found it whilst looking for something else.
So Mary is William P's daughter, never marries or has children. Dies 1954 owning Oubas Cottage. Estate would then revert to siblings, there are none. Parents, both dead. Parent's siblings and their issue. The people listed are her fathers siblings, so presumably her mother had none, or they died without issue? That will be my next task.
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Vera
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4 Mar 2012 09:27 |
This is the William above before marriage.....
1851
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TYSON, Isaae Head Married M 44 1807 Hoop Merchant Ulverstone Lancashire VIEW TYSON, Mary Wife Married F 41 1810 Ulverstone Lancashire VIEW TYSON, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 18 1833 Ulverstone Lancashire VIEW TYSON, John Son Unmarried M 16 1835 Hooper Assistant Ulverstone Lancashire VIEW TYSON, Mary Ann Daughter F 8 1843 School Ulverstone Lancashire VIEW TYSON, Margaret Daughter F 6 1845 School Ulverstone Lancashire VIEW HANKINSON, Ann Nurse Married F 46 1805 Nurse Manchester Lancashire VIEW TYSON, Sarah E Daughter F 0 (2 MOS) 1851 Ulverstone Lancashire VIEW SARGINSON, Mary Servant Unmarried F 19 1832 House Servant Coulton Lancashire VIEW JACKSON, William Servant Unmarried M 30 1821 Hoop Maker Jour Garsdale Lancashire VIEW PENNINGTON, Isaae Servant Married M 21 1830 Hoop Maker Jour Ulverstone Lancashire VIEW POSTLETHWAITE, John Apprentice Unmarried M 19 1832 Hoop Maker App Ulverstone Lancashire VIEW >>>>>>>>>PENNINGTON, William Apprentice Unmarried M 17 1834 Hoop Maker App Ayside Lancashire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Piece: 2274 Folio: 438 Page: 21 Registration District: Ulverstone Civil Parish: Ulverstone Municipal Borough: Address: Nevill Street, Ulverstone County: Lancashire Regards Vera
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Vera
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4 Mar 2012 09:11 |
Thought I would show you this one...look at the name of the cottage Onbas Cottage......could it have been Cubas ......on the probate LancashireAnn found?????
Marriages Mar 1864 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Holmes James Ulverstone 8e 727 <<<<Long Mary Ulverstone 8e 727 Pearson Agnes Ulverstone 8e 727 <<<<Pennington William Ulverstone 8e 727
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PENNINGTON, William Head M 37 1834 Lancashire VIEW PENNINGTON, Mary Wife F 39 1832 Lancashire VIEW >>>>>>PENNINGTON, Mary Daughter F 1 1870 Lancashire VIEW LONG, Richard Brother-In-Law M 33 1838 Lancashire VIEW LONG, Thomas Brother-In-Law M 27 1844 Lancashire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Piece: 4240 Folio: 33 Page: 4 Registration District: Ulverston Civil Parish: Ulverston Municipal Borough: Address: Onbas Hill, Ulverston County: Lancashire
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PENNINGTON, William Head Married M 47 1834 Hooper Wood Journeyman Ayside Lancashire VIEW PENNINGTON, Mary Wife Married F 49 1832 Graythwaite Lancashire VIEW PENNINGTON, Mary Daughter Single F 11 1870 Scholar Ulverston Lancashire VIEW LONG, Thomas Boarder Single M 35 1846 Labourer General Ulverston Lancashire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Piece: 4277 Folio: 79 Page: 48 Registration District: Ulverston Civil Parish: Ulverston Municipal Borough: Address: Oubas, Ulverston County: Lancashire Regards Vera
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PENNINGTON, William Head Widower M 77 1834 Retired Labourer Lancashire Ulverston VIEW PENNINGTON, Mary Daughter Single F 41 1870 Dressmaker Lancashire Ayside VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 25622 Reference: RG14PN25622 RG78PN1469 RD481 SD3 ED9 SN148 Registration District: Ulverston Sub District: Ulverston Enumeration District: 9 Parish: Ulverston Address: 5 Onbas Cottages Ulverston Lancashire County: Lancashire Regards Vera
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grannyfranny
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2 Mar 2012 10:01 |
Thank you for your help Ann, there's some useful new info there.
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lancashireAnn
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1 Mar 2012 23:40 |
baptism of Samuel - in 1841 - same address as the Isaac in 1841 census........
Baptisms: 28 Nov 1841 Priory Church of St Mary and St Michael, Cartmel, Lancashire, England Samuel Pennington - Son of Samuel Pennington & Sarah Abode: Fairigg Occupation: Labr. Baptised by: E Townley Register: Baptisms 1832 - 1851 from the Bishp's Transcripts, Page 150, Entry 1196 Source: LDS Film 1040300
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grannyfranny
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1 Mar 2012 22:45 |
Thank you both for that extra info, the picture is building up now, though I still don't have a clue where Mary P who died 1954 fits in.
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Vera
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1 Mar 2012 20:42 |
Looks like this might be Samuel and Sarah....son Isaac -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1841 ELLWOOD, Timothy M 60 1781 VIEW ELLWOOD, Mary F 55 1786 Lancashire VIEW ELLWOOD, Ann F 25 1816 Lancashire VIEW ELLWOOD, Isabella F 15 1826 Lancashire VIEW ELLWOOD, Timothy M 13 1828 Lancashire VIEW >>>>>PENINGTON, Isaac M 14 1827 Lancashire VIEW Ag Lab
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Piece: 528 Book/Folio: 8/8 Page: 9 Registration District: Ulverston Union Civil Parish: Cartmell Municipal Borough: Address: Fair Rigg, Cartmell, Staveley County: Lancashire Regards Vera
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lancashireAnn
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1 Mar 2012 16:53 |
so for general info
John (1831) son of Samuel
Marriage: 13 Feb 1858 Priory Church of St Mary and St Michael, Cartmel, Lancashire, England John Pennington - (X), 27 Woodcutter Bachelor of Backbarrow Mary Douglas - (X), 21 Spinster of Backbarrow Groom's Father: Samuel Pennington, Woodcutter Bride's Father: James Douglas, Overlooker in Cotton Mill Witness: James Curran, (X); Jane Tyson, (X) Married by Banns by: R. C. Hubbersty Register: Marriages 1845 - 1861 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Entry 66 Source: LDS Film 1040300
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lancashireAnn
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1 Mar 2012 16:43 |
there are 7 baptisms on lan-opc but for some reason there is no John and Mary was born in Colton so not on there, which seems to give 9 children in all to Samuel & Sarah
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grannyfranny
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1 Mar 2012 14:30 |
Yes, Vera, thank you! I also have a baptism for an older son, Isaac, b 1827
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