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great great grandfather george ashiel bright

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jax

jax Report 9 Feb 2012 05:32

Births Dec 1870 (>99%)
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BRIGHT George Thomas Liverpool 8b 41

Deaths Dec 1873 (>99%)
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BRIGHT George Thomas 3 Liverpool 8b 22

Child that is on the 1871 census?

jax

jax Report 9 Feb 2012 05:26

1871

Name: Lucy Davol
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George Thos Dovel
Mother's name: Salena Davol
Gender: Female
Where born: Devonport, Devon, England
Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Aidan
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Martin
George Thos Dovel 37 >>>Summersetshire, Wiltshire, England>>Mariner
Salena Davol 27 >>>Devonport, Devon, England
Lucy Davol 2 >>>Devonport, Devon, England
George Thos Davol 5 Months



1891

Name: George T Davol
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary S Davol
Gender: Male
Where born: Wells, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Kirkdale
Ecclesiastical parish: St Aidan
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Kirkdale
George T Davol 57 >>>Fitters Labourer
Mary S Davol 47
Robert E Davol 18
George I Davol 16
William Davol 12
Mary S Davol 10
James Davol 5

Looks like Dawe on the Image

jax

jax Report 9 Feb 2012 02:57

Thats what it looks like to me also. Maureen

Do you have any certificates? If not how do you know his name was Bright?

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 9 Feb 2012 00:56

Can anyone read what it says on:
Ancestry:
England, Andrews Newspaper Index Cards, 1790-1976 about George Ashiel Bright
Name: George Ashiel Bright
Father's Name: Jas
Publication Date: 1864


It LOOKS like it gives the GRO ref for his marriage and then something like
Son of James a retired drillmaster>(officer???). I could be making that up!

Maureen

Off to bed for me.

Mike *

Mike * Report 9 Feb 2012 00:46

You need to start with the marriage cert for George and Mary Selina.
Hopefully it will give you father's names.

At this stage I can't see a birth for Mary Selina either.

Mike *

Mike * Report 9 Feb 2012 00:31

More inclined to think this is him in view of Mary being a Sailor's wife


Household: 1881

Geo. DAW Other M Male - 39 - Colebrook, Devon, England Boatsn
Boatsn


Vessel "Impregnable"
Census Place Devonport, Devon, England

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 9 Feb 2012 00:12

If the George given above in the 1881 census is the corect one then this could be his birth:-

Name: BRIGHT, George
Registration District: St. Thomas
County: Devon
Year of Registration: 1841
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: 10
Page No: 212

Sourton given as his birthplace on the census could be Sowton which is in the St. Thomas Registration district.

EDIT - I think this is wrong as Sourton is in the Okehampton Registration district. I can't find a birth registered there so his birth may not have been registered at all as there was no penalty for not registering a birth until 1875.

Kath. x

Mike *

Mike * Report 9 Feb 2012 00:10

If birthplace is actually Sowton..........................

EDIT :

Don't think it's him born Sourton so have deleted the birth I found.

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You can order certificates online from

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

quote the district and reference numbers ( will cost £9.25 each )

Mike *

Mike * Report 9 Feb 2012 00:04

Mary Selina and children

Household: 1881

Mary S. DAWE Head M Female 36 Ashburton, Devon, England Sailors Wife (Formerly Tailoress)
Lucy A. DAWE Daur Female 12 Devonport, Devon, England Scholar
Robert E. DAWE Son Male 8 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Scholar
George T. DAWE Son Male 6 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Scholar
William J. DAWE Son Male 2 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Mary S. DAWE Daur Female 1 m Liverpool, Lancashire, England

:
Dwelling 35 Steele St
Census Place Liverpool, Lancashire, England







Is this George still living in Devon in 1881 ?


Thomas ALFORDS Head M Male 55 Sourton, Devon, England Farmer Of 80 Acres
Ann ALFORDS Wife M Female 58 Sourton, Devon, England
George DAWE Serv M Male 36 Sourton, Devon, England Farm Servant Indoor
George MADDAFORD Serv U Male 15 Sourton, Devon, England Farm Servant Indoor
Elizabeth ROBINSON Serv U Female 23 Tavistock, Devon, England General Servant

:
Dwelling Slickers
Census Place Sourton, Devon, England



EDIT :

Just noticed in 1881 Mary is a SAILOR'S WIFE so doubt that is George working as a servant.

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KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 9 Feb 2012 00:02

What makes you think he married the same woman twice?

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 8 Feb 2012 23:58

Could this be his death? :-

Name: DAWE, George
Registration District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Year of Registration: 1920
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death: 80
Volume No: 8B
Page No: 395

This would make him born slightly earlier than you thought although the age at death can be wrong as it depends on how well the informant knew the deceased.

Kath. x

Mike *

Mike * Report 8 Feb 2012 23:57

So George changed his name to his wife's surname ?


Marriages Sep 1864 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bright George Ashiel - Stoke D 5b 605
Dawe Mary Selina Adams - Stoke D. 5b 605

Sandra

Sandra Report 8 Feb 2012 23:49

Hi, Could anyone help me to find out about George Ashiel Bright born in Devon about 1845 changed his name to George Dawe, his wifes name was Mary Selina Dawe also born in Devon, and how would I be able to get a birth and death certificate as I Live in Liverpool where George came to live and changed his name, it looks as though he must have married the same woman twice, my great grandfather was William Dawe born in Liverpool in 1879. Any information will be of a great help, Thanks Lin.