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If your ancestor is Walsh why are you tracing Welch?

Also wondering about 3 year old Matilda have you been able to find her birth or baptism? There seems to be quite a few baptisms for this family but not seeing one for Matilda

Could she be Margaret?

The 1851 census was taken on the 30th March so Margaret would have been 3 when it was taken

Shame the age at death were not entered on the index's back then

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Deaths Dec 1853 (99%)
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Welsh Margaret Ellen Chorlton 8c 312
Welsh Margaret Ellen Chorlton 8c 382

i never did manage to track them down on 1851 census due to the name transcriptions....The first one is correct....never was able to get hold of sarahs ann's birth certificate eigther or her other siblings.William
.Robert and Mary jane....i applied to the GRO several times for three year searches to be made (that was when the service was avaiable) but they never was able to find Sarahs birth info...sarah ann died in 1931 in salford age 76yrs old...would that mean tat she was never rgistered

Is that not Sarah's birth that I gave you then in the name of Welch?

Any thoughts on Matilda?

No....she was sarah ann walsh...she married william smith in 1875 in salford....somrtimes the name is mis-transcribed.

Thats what I have been saying she was baptised Welch she is on the census as Welch how do you know her birth was not registered as Welch??

Same as Margaret Ellen... her birth is registered as Walsh...surely a death registered as Welsh could well be her rather than her parents living in Liverpool for a while for no apparant reason

Sarah actually married in Manchester not Salford

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1875
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
SMITH William WALSH Sarah A Manchester Cathedral (formerly Manchester Collegiate Church) Manchester CATH/208/496

have you got that certificate to give you the details of father etc

the only William & Sarah Smith I can find on the 1881 census is this one, but Sarah was born 1856/7

William SMITH Head M Male 25 Manchester, Lancashire, England Painter
Sarah A. SMITH Wife M Female 24 Manchester, Lancashire, England Wife
Henry SMITH Son U Male 4 Salford, Lancashire, England
Ann SMITH Daur U Female 1 Salford, Lancashire, England
Henry SMITH Father W Male 53 Cowling, York, England Shoe Maker
Mary J. WELCH Boarder U Female 19 Hulme, Lancashire, England Factory Operative

Source Information:
Dwelling 114 Granville St
Census Place Salford, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341949
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3975 / 49
Page Number 17

1871??

Name: Edward Welch
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Welch
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Hulme
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Hulme
Edward Welch 49
Mary Welch 46
William Welch 10
Mary Welch 7
Rob Welch 4

Name: Robert Welch
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 04 Jan 1868
Baptism/Christening Place: Hulme (near Manchester), Lancashire, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Edward Welch
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Margaret Tomlinson
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I01644-2
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 2113128
Reference Number: 341

Name: Mary Jane Welch
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 19 Jan 1868
Baptism/Christening Place: Hulme (near Manchester), Lancashire, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Edward Welch
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Margaret Tomlinson
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I01644-2
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 2113128
Reference Number: 339

These dates of baptisms do not mean they were babies at that time

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Births Jun 1866 (>99%)
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Welsh Robert Chorlton 8c 664

Births Dec 1862 (>99%)
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WELCH Mary Jane Chorlton 8c 61[_4]