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Unless she formally changed her name, the mother's legal surname was that under which her children's birth would have been registered.
As her partner, the father of her children, probably fronted up to claim paternity, then his name went on the birth certificates also. The end result is that the births would have been indexed under 2 alternate surnames.

There are 2 Ohrens, Emily 1853 and Henry Charles 1855 registered at St. Lukes, London. The Chelsea district was St. Lukes...

I assume it is, there were 3 of them christened the same day. I believe she was born about 1821/22

Is this Margaret ?
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MARGARET OHREN
Birth:
Christening: 12 AUG 1830 Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London, England

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Parents:
Father: MAGNUS CROSBY OHREN
Mother: MARGARET




Deaths Mar 1889
Siggs Margaret -68 - Chelsea 1a 251

Why would the births be double registered? Any idea?

Does look as though the couple weren't married ( well not to each other anyway !)

These were also registered in her maiden name

Births Mar 1849 (>99%)
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OHREN Eliza Chelsea 3 81

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Births Dec 1850 (>99%)
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Ohren Sophia Jane Chelsea 3 74

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Births Jun 1854 (>99%)
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OHREN Joseph Chelsea 1a 135


Eliza dies though

Deaths Sep 1854 (>99%)
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Ohren Eliza Chelsea 1a 169

My family have never been religious !

My great great grandfather Joseph Siggs appears to be double listed as Joseph Ohren..

I have a copy of Fredericks birth certificate. Under 7. Signature,description and residence of informant it says: M. Ohren, Mother and the address.

That's interesting Mike ! Ohren is the mother... can't find their marriage.. yet.

Frederieck registered under both surnames
so maybe parents not yet married at the time

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Births Dec 1846
Ohren Frederick - Chelsea 3 62
Siggs Frederick - Chelsea 3 62


Maybe he and Jessie were step siblings ( or is it half siblings ?)

Or Matthew (whos name is really Charles)

Theres no birth for Louisa as far as I can see either, it was not an offence not to register births until sometime in the 1870s

And that's the question, isn't it? Frederick was born in 1846, confirmed. When was Jessie born? Unknown.

In answer to your other thread

Peoples ages changed on the censuses, some people didnt even know when they were born! It's quite normal for them to show with a couple of years either side

So, Fredericks age change.....doesnt mean he was Jessie' twin

:-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

Research through the night!! Good effort people :-)

Margaret Ohren was christened in 1830 along with 2 other of her siblings. I think she was born in 1821. She was christened in St. Dunstan, Stepney.

James (Wiffen/Wiffing) Siggs was married in St. Dunstan, Stepney and his wife came from there.

Elizabeth Ann in 1851...Widowed. My Charles is still alive in London..

2 Charles Matthew Siggs.. It's bugged me for several years, now I've revisited the problem and it seems to be resolving itself thanks to people on here !

Re Chris's posting ..... the Court of Chancery


google Charles Matthew Siggs, and you should be able tor ead the whole case ..... it's the 7th reference down




sylvia

Re Frederick's birth


This was on ancestry, a response to a question asked by Kevin


"I have a birth certificate for Frederick, son of Charles Matthew Siggs and Margaret Ohren. He was born on 31st August 1846 at 1 Blenheim Terrace, St Luke, Chelsea. In 1861 Margaret Siggs (widow) was at Arthur St, St Luke with children Matthew, Louisa, Jessie, Frederick, Jane and Joseph. This is all I know about the Siggs line. I haven't yet proved it but I think Margaret was the daughter of Magnus Crosby Ohren, stationer of Broad Street, Ratcliff and Margaret nee Savage.

I am descended from a cousin of Magnus Crosby Ohren - Magnus Ohren, who was manager of the Bell Green gasworks in Sydenham, Kent. Margaret Ohren, who started this thread, and I are common descendents of Magnus's grandson, Edward Magnus Ohren, born in Devon in 1877."




so it sounds as if it is not certain that Charles Matthew's second wife was Margaret Ohren, or another Margaret ....... the possibility exists that it is the latter.