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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 18 Jan 2012 20:05

There's an undocumented tree on Ancestry about "Renowned Welsh Singer" (thought the name was familiar!). Donald Rhys Hubert Peers 1908-1973.

According to that tree his siblings were:

Elwyn b1897 Chicago
Hywel b 1902 USA
Janie b 1905 Ammanford
Gwyneth born before 1908

The tree owner has traced Mary's family back but has no further info on Frank.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 18 Jan 2012 19:53

May be unconnected but will post it anyhow (Cook County covers Chicago):

Cook County, Illinois, Birth Certificates Index, 1871-1922

Name: Peers
Birth Date: 19 Jul 1908
Ethnicity: Canadian ???
Gender: Male
Race: White
Father Name: Frank Peers
Mother Name: ?A Peers
FHL Film Number: 1315046

Edward

Edward Report 18 Jan 2012 19:47

GlitterBaby, I don't known the names of any sibs so can't say whether it is correct or not, I flagged it as answered because I had given up and didn't want you kind folk searching for the proverbial needle. I have spent hours searching with FindMyPast without success so I wasn't hopeful.

Edward

Edward Report 18 Jan 2012 18:46

Thanks Penny, Frank Peers married Mary Rees in Chicago in 1894. I don't know the names of Donald's other sibs, only that he had 2 older brothers and 2 older sisters. The 2 older brothers were born first, in the USA, the 2 older sisters were born after the family returned to Wales. So Donald was the last child born, on July 10th 1908. Mary was born in Wales and her father still lived there.

Have to do the washing up now!

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Jan 2012 18:39

Births Mar 1905
Peers Jane Irene Llandilofawr 11a 1288a


You have flagged this as answered so is this child correct ?

Penny

Penny Report 18 Jan 2012 18:37

franks birth may well have been registered, hold your horses!

Tell us where he married Mary rees, What were Donalds sibs called?

Dea

Dea Report 18 Jan 2012 18:30

Don't give up yet Edward - I have a theory which I am working on and I am sure others have ideas to follow too!

We just need to have ALL the info that you have so that we can work on them.

Dea x

Edward

Edward Report 18 Jan 2012 18:23

Thanks for all your help, I have decided to give up on this. It looks like Frank Peers' birth was not registered and for some reason he doesn't appear on any of the censuses in Kent or Wales.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Jan 2012 17:57

1911?
REES, David James Head Married M 39 1872 Printer And Publisher United States America VIEW
REES, Roberta Wife Married
10 years F 40 1871 Paisley Renfrenshire VIEW
REES, Gwyneth Daughter F 9 1902 Breconshire Ystradgynlais VIEW
REES, Rachel Eluned Daughter F 7 1904 Breconshire Ystradgynlais VIEW
REES, Olwen Myfanwy Daughter F 4 1907 Breconshire Ystradgynlais VIEW
PEERS, Hywel Nephew M 9 1902 United States America VIEW
PEERS, Janie Niece F 6 1905 Carmarthenshire Ammarford VIEW
TAYLOR, Winnie Servant Single F 17 1894 Servant Domestic Glamorganshire Glais VIEW
LLOYD, Bertie Boarder Single M 16 1895 Letter Press Printer Wilts Trowbridge VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
32709 Reference:
RG14PN32709 RG78PN1867 RD593 SD2 ED1 SN10

Registration District:
Pontardawe Sub District:
Ystradgynlais Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
Ystradgynlais Lower

Address:
Glan- Yr-Onen Gurnos Ystalyfera S O

Penny

Penny Report 18 Jan 2012 17:54

ELWYN peers in ammerford in 1911, but he appears to be home alone, aged 12

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Jan 2012 17:53

Think I am losing the plot as not found a death to match for wife in 1929

Penny

Penny Report 18 Jan 2012 17:47

was one of the girls Jane Irene? 1905

Births Mar 1905
Peers Jane Irene Llandilofawr 11a 1288a

Carmarthenshire

Poster kind of suggests they met & married in USA

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Jan 2012 17:44

Am I reading it correct there were 4 children before Donald ?

Where are they in 1911?

Penny

Penny Report 18 Jan 2012 17:40

his marraige cert will tell you his fathers name.

who and where were the fisrt two sons born?

Edward

Edward Report 18 Jan 2012 17:20

Thanks GlitterBaby, that looks like the only trace to be found of this family in the census records. Penny, I don't know Frank's parents' names.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Jan 2012 17:19

?

Marriages Dec 1890 (>99%)
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Beer Ellen Jane Eastry 2a 1760
Court Henry William Eastry 2a 1760

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Jan 2012 17:17

??

Name: Frank Peers
Port of Departure: Africa
Arrival Date: 16 May 1908
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Lagos
[Accra]
Ship Name: Mendi
Search Ship Database: View the 'Mendi' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Elder Dempster & Company
Official Number: 120875

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Jan 2012 17:14

1911 juat for info
COURT, Henry William Head Married M 47 1864 Market Gardener Kent Ash VIEW
COURT, Ellen Jane Wife Married
20 years F 40 1871 Kent Ash VIEW
COURT, Alfred Victor Son M 15 1896 School Kent Wingham VIEW
PEERS, Mary Visitor Married F 41 1870 Glamorgan Llengwicke VIEW
PEERS, Donald Visitor M 2 1909 Carmarthen Ammanford VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
4540 Reference:
RG14PN4540 RG78PN188 RD64 SD1 ED2 SN85

Registration District:
Eastry Sub District:
Sandwich Enumeration District:
2 Parish:
Ash

Address:
Creton Court Nash Ash Kent


Edward

Edward Report 18 Jan 2012 17:11

Frank's wife, Mary Marie Rees, was Welsh, no Lancashire connections, she was born in 1870 in Llengwicke, Glamorgan, and died in 1929 at Ammanford.

Edward

Edward Report 18 Jan 2012 17:07

Definitely Frank Peers, his fifth child was a son, Donald wrote that his father was born in Ash. I have found a death record for Frank Peers on 14 May 1953, age 83, Swansea district, which I believe to be Donald's father. After leaving school Frank worked his passage to Africa, and eventually found his way to New York, then to Chicago in the year of the great World's Fair of 1893. Here, he met Mary Rees. Mary was from Wales, they married the following year.

They had two sons, then moved to Wales where they had two daughters, after which Donald was born in on July 10th 1908. Frank never returned to Ash, but in April 1911 the census shows that Mary and Donald visited Creton Court, Nash Road, Ash, the home of Henry Court, a market gardener. Donald was only 2 years old. Their home was in the Ammanford/Betsw area of Wales.

The only record I can find is that for Fank's wife and son in the 1911 census.