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Could well be as Francis had sons Francis John and one John Francis. John F would be about 16 at this time and may have been looked after by his gran after his mother's death. Francis snr died in 1922 and I think the children of his 1st family were elsewhere before his 2nd marriage.

Thanks for this it all helps

Pat

?? Could this be Antonia, although the age makes her born 1848/9
Civil Registration event: Death

Name: VAN DEN DRIESSCHE, Antonie
Registration District: Help Hackney
County: London
Year of Registration: 1925
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death: 76
Volume No: 1B
Page No: 524

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1861-1941
about Antonie Van De Driessche
Name: Antonie Van De Driessche
Probate Date: 15 Feb 1926
Death Date: 19 Dec 1925
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Registry: London

(of 2, Artichoke Hill, Stepney, widow. died at German Hospital, Dalston. Probate to John Driessche labourer. Effects £151 8s 11d)

Wonders if above fits anywhere!.

Chris :)

Think you're right Stuart, thanks. Just found another mystery about Johanna, Francis's sister. Marries Otto Pingel, has 2 Pingel children a third in 1918 is a Pingel Holmes, Otto jnr and Johanna die as Pingel Holmes and both daughters marry one as Pingel Holmes the other who was born Kathleen I Pingel Holmes marries as Kathleen I P Holmes. Can't see 2nd marriage for Johanna and no death for Otto snr. Was he German and went home in WW1? If he went, who is Kathleen's father, who was this Holmes. Oh for the 1921 census!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

?? Death
Looking at the 1891 posted above by MAddie, the Tyuatius looks a good guess by the transcriber!

Name: VAN DEN DRIESSCHE, Ignatius F
Registration District: Help St. George in the East
County: London
Year of Registration: 1900
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death: 55
Volume No: 1C
Page No: 232

You probably have this. Just other ways that the surname is (or isn't) shown. The original has ditto for the children's surname and so misses out the Vandan of Antonia, presumed as a middle name I suppose

1901 census transcription details for: 2, Artichoke Hill, St George In The East

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 309 Folio: 59 Page: 21

Reg. District: St George in the East Sub District: St George North
Parish: St George in the East Enum. District: 2
Ecclesiastical District: St George in the East City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 2, Artichoke Hill, St George In The East
County: London

Name Relation Condition Sex Age BirthYear Occupation ,Disability, Where Born
DRIESCHE, Antonia Vandan Head Widow F 55 1846 Germany (Ger Subj)
DRIESCHE, Francis Son Single M 23 1878 Assurance Agent, Bow,London
DRIESCHE, Johanna Daughter Single F 14 1887 St Georges London
DE WERK, Johanna Boarder Married F 20 1881 Holland Dutch Sub
DE WERK, Dirk Boarder Married M 20 1881 Cigar Maker Holland Dutch Sub
HAUSE, Anna Boarder Married F 45 1856 Cook Germany (Ger Subj)

1901
2 Artichoke Hill, St George in the East

DRIESCHE, Antonia Vandan Head Widow F 55 1846 Germany (Ger Subj)

DRIESCHE, Francis Son Single M 23 1878 Assurance Agent Bow London

DRIESCHE, Johanna Daughter Single F 14 1887 St Georges London

DE WERK, Johanna Boarder Married F 20 1881 Holland Dutch Sub

DE WERK, Dirk Boarder Married M 20 1881 Cigar Maker Holland Dutch Sub

HAUSE, Anna Boarder Married F 45 1856 Cook Germany (Ger Subj

Thanks Suart but without sending for birth cert. am unable to verify it. There were other van den Driessches out there. Just tracked Francis's sister, her marriage and 3 children in Mile End. She married in 1912 so easier to confirm births with mother's maiden name.

Pat

1911 census says 5 children born alive, 4 still living, 1 died.
Antonia, Francis, Caroline and John Francis are there. Could the missing one be Marie Caroline b 1905 Mile End Old Town and died Whitechapel 1905. This would then make 7 children born, with Edward and Stanley after the census.

francis marraige
BMD Search result details

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Name: DRIESSCHE, Francis Van Der
Registration District: Help St. George in the East
County: London
Year of Registration: 1901
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 1C
Page No: Help 517
MarriageFinder™: Francis Van Der Driessche married one of the following people Help


BURKE, Martha view record




STAHLER, Marie view record


VAN DER DRIESSCHE, Francis view record

Thank you Maddie

Never thought to put the name altogether as all official documents were in van den Driessche.

Pat

1891 ??????
VANDENDRIESSCHE, Tyuatius Head Married M 45 1846 Sugar Boiler
Holland VIEW
VANDENDRIESSCHE, Antonia Wife Married F 46 1845
Germany VIEW
VANDENDRIESSCHE, Franciscus Son M 13 1878 Office Boy
London VIEW
VANDENDRIESSCHE, Johanna Daughter F 4 1887
London VIEW
BREMAN, Anna Boarder Single F 23 1868
Germany VIEW
HIRSCHAUER, Hulda Boarder Single F 21 1870
Germany VIEW
Piece:
284 Folio:
13 Page:
21 Registration District:
St George in the East

Civil Parish:
St George in the East Municipal Borough:
Address:
2, Artichoke Hill, St George In The East County:
London

1911 for reference
DRIESSCHE, Francis Head Married M 33 1878 Ships Clerk London Poplar VIEW
DRIESSCHE, Marie Wife Married
9 years F 35 1876 London Whitechapel VIEW
DRIESSCHE, Antonia Daughter F 8 1903 London Southwark VIEW
DRIESSCHE, Francis John Son M 7 1904 London Whitechapel VIEW
DRIESSCHE, Caroline Daughter F 4 1907 London Bow VIEW
DRIESSCHE, John Francis Son M 1 1910 London Poplar VIEW
CHRISTIAN, Nicholas Boarder Single M 57 1854 General Labourer Germany B Resident VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1735 Reference:
RG14PN1735 RG78PN60 RD22 SD3 ED19 SN74

Registration District:
Poplar Sub District:
Poplar Enumeration District:
19 Parish:
Poplar Borough

Address:
18 Lindale St Poplar County:
London