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Yes I think so

looks like it's gonna be a birth cert jobbie...!

Yes thats the correct 1881 census

Hi Tracey I was looking at the same birth for Constance, so Her school record here in NZ for birth date is 9yrs out, yes thats her. Constance Emily Eliza Horton married Herbert Clement in NZ 1923

so this is presumably 1881

HORTON, Henry Head Married M 47 1834 Master Pork Butcher 17 Men 1 Boy
West Bromwich
Staffordshire VIEW
HORTON, Eliza Wife Married F 43 1838
Birm
Warwickshire VIEW
HORTON, Annie Daughter Single F 19 1862 Assistant
Birmingham
Warwickshire VIEW
HORTON, William Son Single M 17 1864 Shopman
Birmingham
Warwickshire VIEW
HORTON, Harry Son Single M 16 1865 Scholar
Birmingham
Warwickshire VIEW
HORTON, Charles Son Single M 14 1867 Scholar
Kings Norton VIEW
HORTON, Eliza Daughter Single F 13 1868 Scholar
Kings Norton VIEW
HORTON, Frederick Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar
Birm
Warwickshire VIEW
HORTON, Ralph Son Single M 6 1875 Scholar
Birm
Warwickshire VIEW
HORTON, Ester Daughter Single F 4 1877
Birm
Warwickshire VIEW
HAINES, Benj Assistant Single M 19 1862 Shopman
West Bromwich VIEW
HOPKINS, Harriet Sevant Single F 19 1862 Domestic Servant
West Bromwich VIEW
TANDY, Maria Servant Single F 22 1859 Domestic Servant
Brokmore Wordsley
Staffordshire

could be Constance?

Births Dec 1901 HORTON Constance Emily E Aston 6d 344


Tracey x

Good point Tracey - perhaps she was still married to someone else?

Is see there is a 19 year old ES Fletcher on the 1901? Who are they?

EDIT: Damn! They were a servant!

I wondered the same thing

ever thought they were cagey about her proper name because they weren't actually married?

T x

Wow thanks for that, was a shame his wife is listed as Mrs Horton. I wonder if she died on board the ship

??

Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960

Name: Hy HORTON
Date of departure: 26 June 1909
Port of departure: London
Destination port: Wellington
Destination country: New Zealand

Date of Birth:
Age:
Marital Status: Married
Sex: Male
Occupation: Butcher
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 9 of 14

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The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

Mrs HORTON

Alf HORTON

Constance HORTON

Edith HORTON

Jos HORTON


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Ship: CORINTHIC
Official Number: 115296
Master's name: F Hart R N R
Steamship Line: Shaw Savill & Albion Coy Ld
Where bound: Wellington, New Zealand
Square feet: 9199
Registered tonnage: 7832
Passengers on voyage: 427

Hi Tracey, yes we have found him in NZ. But cant find his wife

This guy is a butcher...

New Zealand, Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981
about Harry Horton Name: Harry Horton
Electoral Year: 1919
District: Patea
Region or Province: Taranaki

Living at the Railway Hotel, Hawera

Tracey x

I have seen that marriage cert, but Harrys father is wrong

In 1908 he was living at or working out of

Horton Harry, pork butcher, 199 High, street, Erdington

Tracey x

Posting this as a possible, but to be sure you need the child's birth cert

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Marriages Mar 1893 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bell William Arthur Woolwich 1d 1267
Horton Harry Woolwich 1d 1267
Sexton Sarah Woolwich 1d 1267
Sherwood Georgina Woolwich 1d 1267

No sorry, unable to find shipping records. Harry's brother Charles and family also came to NZ,. Ralph Horton another brother (my Great Grandfather) also came, we thought he was the only one, until last week. Charles's wife is Mary, Ralphs was Edith, Ralph died not long after comming to NZ my Grandmother was only 9mths old when he died. Ralph and Edith arrived in NZ Jan 1913

Julie Ann - do you know when they went to NZ?

Sorry, Harry Horton born abt 1864, yes I thought that might be the case, but was hoping to get away without having to buy another cert. Thanks anyway

Harry here is a publican:
1891 England Census
Harry Horton Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Georgina Horton
Gender: Male Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Wolverhampton
Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England registration district: Wolverhampton Sub-registration district: Wolverhampton Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Piece: 2226 Folio: 95 Page Number: 23
Harry Horton 26
Georgina Horton 26 Ruardean, Warwickshire,
Hilda Horton 1
Robert Horton 1/12
Samuel Jones 19
Jessie George 22
Eliza Savage 22
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2226; Folio 95; Page 23; GSU roll: 6097336.