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James Gray Maybole Scotland

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sharonrose

sharonrose Report 23 Nov 2011 17:56

Looking for any details of my ancestors birth in maybole ayr abt 1847 he later married margaret greer in co.antrim and became an argucutaril implentant manufacturer farming and I am told James Gray & Co was awarded bronze award at dublin exhibition in 1882 for making the 1st irish farming plough but I cant find this anywere. Please can anyone point me in the correct direction please. Sharonrose

alviegal

alviegal Report 23 Nov 2011 18:14

Births specifically in Maybole.

Name: James Pollock Gray
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 16 Jul 1848
Baptism/Christening Place: , MAYBOLE, AYR, SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 30 Jun 1848
Father's Name: James Gray
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Helen Pollock



Name: James Gray
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 07 Sep 1851
Birthplace: MAYBOLE,AYR,SCOTLAND
Father's Name: David Gray
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Marion Kennedy



Name: James Gray
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 07 May 1841
Baptism/Christening Place: , MAYBOLE, AYR, SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 24 Apr 1841
Father's Name: John Gray
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Jane Cathcart


Name: James Gray
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place: , MAYBOLE, AYR, SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 21 Nov 1854
Birthplace: , Maybole, Ayr, Scotland
Father's Name: Adam Gray
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Barbara Veitch

Flick

Flick Report 23 Nov 2011 18:35

Have you looked for him in the 1901 Irish census?

It's free.............

Flick

Flick Report 23 Nov 2011 18:36

1851???

Name: James Gray
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: James Gray
Mother's Name: Helen Gray
Gender: Male
Where born: Maybole, Ayrshire
Parish Number: 488
Civil parish: Maybole
Town: Maybole
County: Ayrshire
Address: Main Street
ED: 16
Page: 11 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 38
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1851_103
Household Members: Name Age
James Gray 40
Helen Gray 38
Gilbert Gray 11
Isabella Gray 9
Agnes Gray 7
Helen Gray 5
James Gray 2
Margaret Gray 8 MO

Flick

Flick Report 23 Nov 2011 18:37

There are others living in Maybole in 1851, but born elsewhere

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Nov 2011 20:00

From the 1901 perhaps born a little earlier?


Residents of a house 23 in May Street (Windsor Ward, Antrim)

Show all informationSurname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses

Gray Jessie 30 Female Daughter Presbyterian Ireland, Belfast - Read and write English Not Married -
Gray James 58 Male Father Presbyterian Ayrshire, Scotland Farmating Implement Maker Read and write English Married -
Gray Margret Jane 61 Female Mother Presbyterian Ireland, Belfast Regestary Office Read and write English Married -
Dobson Ruth 26 Female Servant Methodist England Servant Domestic Read and write English Married -
Gray James A 27 Male Son Presbyterian Ireland, Belfast Cycle Manufacturer and Broker Read and write English Not Married -
Gray E 23 Male Son Presbyterian Ireland, Belfast Rent Agent Read and write English Not Married -

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Nov 2011 20:07

1911 - so maybe even born in 1842. Or depending on the dates of the 1901 and 1911 census you may be able to narrow his birth to a particular month?


The marriage and children detail for James has been scored out on the original image.


Residents of a house 146 in Donegall Pass (Windsor Ward, Antrim)

Show all informationSurname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living

Gray James 69 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Scotland Agr Implement Maker Read and write English Married - 48 9 4
Gray Margaret Jane 71 Female Wife Presbyterian Co Antrim - Read and write English Married - 48 7 4
Hall Joseph L 33 Male Boarder Presbyterian Belfast Clerk in Linen W House Read and write English Single - - - -
Daran Nicholas 26 Male Boarder Roman Catholic Newry, Co Down Dentist Read and write English Single - - - -
Kirkpatrick Lily 24 Female Servant Episcopalian Belfast General Servant Read and write English Single - - - -

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Nov 2011 20:34

Groom's Name: James Gray
Groom's Birth Date: 1841
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 21
Bride's Name: Margaret Jane Greer
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 09 Oct 1862
Marriage Place: Magheragal, Ant, Ire
Groom's Father's Name: Robert Gray
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: James Greer
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M70226-6
System Origin: Ireland-VR
Source Film Number: 101437
Reference Number: 2:3FZ08R4


Name: Jessie Gray
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 06 Oct 1868
Birthplace: Antrim, Ireland
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: James Gray
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Margaret Jane Greer
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01186-7
System Origin: Ireland-EASy
Source Film Number: 101175
Reference Number: v 16 p 346


Name: Emily Gray
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 27 Nov 1870
Birthplace: Antrim, Ireland
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: James Gray
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Margaret Jane Greer
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01405-6
System Origin: Ireland-EASy
Source Film Number: 255810
Reference Number: v 1-1 p 379


Name: James Alexander
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place: 375, BELFAST NO 6, ANT, IRE
Birth Date: 19 Feb 1874
Birthplace: Belfast No 6, Ant, Ire
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: James Gray
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Margaret Jane Greer
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C70155-1
System Origin: Ireland-VR
Source Film Number: 255893
Reference Number: - 2:28T1ZWW


Name: John Douglas Gray
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 14 Aug 1865
Birthplace: 0362,CROMAC,ANTRIM,IRELAND
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: James Gray
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Margaret Jane Greer
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C70126-7
System Origin: Ireland-ODM
Source Film Number: 101115
Reference Number:


Name: Agnes Gray
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 14 Dec 1866
Birthplace: 0282,BALLYMACARRET,DOWN,IRELAND
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: James Gray
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Margaret Jane Greer
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C70131-1
System Origin: Ireland-ODM
Source Film Number: 101140
Reference Number:

sharonrose

sharonrose Report 23 Nov 2011 21:10

This information is great and i have looked on find my past but unable to find birth of james gray 1842 whose father is robert gray. on the census it shows james born ayrshire but not showing. thank you for all this searching. Sharonrose

alviegal

alviegal Report 23 Nov 2011 21:21

There are 2 with father, Robert. Where did you get Maybole from?

JAMES GRAY Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
27 MAR 1841
Christening:
04 APR 1841 Newton-On-Ayr, Ayr, Scotland
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: ROBERT GRAY Family
Mother: AGNES LAWSON




JAMES PATON GRAY Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
27 MAY 1843
Christening:
11 JUN 1843 Dundonald, Ayr, Scotland
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: ROBERT GRAY Family
Mother: LILIAS PATON

alviegal

alviegal Report 23 Nov 2011 21:23

1851

1851 Scotland Census about James Gray
Name: James Gray
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Robert Gray
Mother's Name: Agnes Gray
Gender: Male
Where born: Newton, Ayrs
Parish Number: 612
Civil parish: Newton On Ayr
Town: Newton
County: Ayrshire
Address: New Road
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 1
Page: 43 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 147
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1851_138
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Gray 50 grocer
Agnes Gray 47
Robert Gray Jr. 18
Agnes Gray 14
Jessie Gray 12
James Gray 10
William L Gray 7
Joseph Gray 5
Susan Gray 3



1851


1851 Scotland Census about James Gray
Name: James Gray
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Robert Gray
Mother's Name: Lillier Gray
Gender: Male
Where born: Dundonald, Ayrshire
Parish Number: 578
Civil parish: Ayr
County: Ayrshire
Address: Cumnock House 8 Over Millr Cottage
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 15
Page: 3 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 13
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1851_128
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Gray 42 wood cutter
Lillier Gray 40
Michael Gray 11
James Gray 8

sharonrose

sharonrose Report 23 Nov 2011 21:47

My distant cousin had said that he came from maybole and his year of birth was abt 1841, he has a daughter called agnes might be after his mother, his father is a implant maker on the wedding cert of james gray to margaret 6.10.1862 antrim

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Nov 2011 21:53

The one in Newton on Ayr looks a fair possiblity as he had a daughter Agnes and another Jessie. Irish and Scots at that time like to name their children for parents and siblings.

sharonrose

sharonrose Report 26 Nov 2011 14:02

is there any further records for scotland free that i can look up the gray=lawson family and when they moved to ireland if they are the correct family as james married in antrim but i cant find his family in any 1851 or 1861 census. Big thank you for all the tracing on the grays this has pushed me further to trace my scottish roots.

alviegal

alviegal Report 26 Nov 2011 18:49

James Paton Gray married a Euphemia and was still in Ayrshire in 1901.

I think the other one was still in Scotland in 1891 and was a clerk.


1881 Scotland Census about James Gray
Name: James Gray
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relationship: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: Newton Upon Ayr, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 644/12
Registration district: Gorbals
Civil parish: Glasgow Gorbals
County: Lanarkshire
Occupation: Clerk-Inland Revenue
ED: 89
Household schedule number: 28
Line: 17
Roll: cssct1881_248
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Gray 47
Robert Gray 17
Margaret Nicol Gray 13
John D Gray 11
James Gray 8
Mayson Gray 4
Jean McGill 22
James Gray 40

sharonrose

sharonrose Report 26 Nov 2011 19:45

I think James Gray who was 10 yrs old in 1851 is my connection who lived in new road newton ayr. where can i find these census from 1861 onwards please

alviegal

alviegal Report 26 Nov 2011 21:19

They're all on ancestry but the 10 year old grew up to be a clerk in Scotland.

1851 Scotland Census about James Gray
Name: James Gray
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Robert Gray
Mother's Name: Agnes Gray
Gender: Male
Where born: Newton, Ayrs
Parish Number: 612
Civil parish: Newton On Ayr
Town: Newton
County: Ayrshire
Address: New Road
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 1
Page: 43 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 147
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1851_138
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Gray 50 Where born: Newton, Ayrs, grocer
Agnes Gray 47 Where born: Newton, Ayrs
>>>Robert Gray Jr. 18 Where born: Newton, Ayrs, Sheriff Clerk's Assistant
Agnes Gray 14
Jessie Gray 12
James Gray 10
William L Gray 7
Joseph Gray 5
Susan Gray 3


1861 Scotland Census about James Gray
Name: James Gray
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Robert Gray
Mother's Name: Agnes Gray
Gender: Male
Where born: Newton Ayr, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 578
Registration district: Ayr
Civil parish: Newton On Ayr
County: Ayrshire
Address: New Road
Occupation: Clerk
ED: 23
Household schedule number: 112
Line: 4
Roll: CSSCT1861_82
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Gray 60
Agnes Gray 57
Agnes Gray 24
Jessie Gray 22
James Gray 20
William Gray 17
Joseph Gray 15
Susan Gray 13


1871 Scotland Census about James Gray
Name: James Gray
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Robert Gray
Mother's Name: Agnes Gray
Gender: Male
Where born: Newton Ayr, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 578/2
Registration district: Ayr Landward
Civil parish: Newton On Ayr
Town: Newton Ayr
County: Ayrshire
Address: Pointhouse Tuckead
Occupation: Clerk
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 39
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1871_106
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Gray 70
Agnes Gray 66
James Gray 31
William L Gray 27
Joseph Gray 25
Susan Gray 22


1881 Scotland Census about James Gray
Name: James Gray
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relationship: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: Newton Upon Ayr, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 644/12
Registration district: Gorbals
Civil parish: Glasgow Gorbals
County: Lanarkshire
Occupation: Clerk-Inland Revenue
ED: 89
Household schedule number: 28
Line: 17
Roll: cssct1881_248
Household Members:
Name Age
>>>Robert Gray 47 Occupation: Compulsory Officer School Board Of Glasgow
Robert Gray 17
Margaret Nicol Gray 13
John D Gray 11
James Gray 8
Mayson Gray 4
Jean McGill 22
James Gray 40

sharonrose

sharonrose Report 27 Nov 2011 10:41

Thank you. My james lived in Belfast Antrim by 1862 after he married margaret greer in oct 1862, i guess this one in scotland is not my james.`in 1901/1911 cenus for ireland it shows he born in ayr, so i dont know what step next. i thought the dublin exhibition would show his award in papers being 1st to manufactrur irish plough. cant find that either. im lost

sharonrose

sharonrose Report 16 Dec 2011 20:17

Thank you and merry christmas and happy new year to all xxxxx

alviegal

alviegal Report 18 Dec 2011 21:37

Thank you Sharonrose. Sorry we couldn't be of more help to you.
Have a wonderful Christmas and may the New Year bring all you wish for.

Liz