Profile | Posted by | Options | Post Date |
|
WayneTracey
|
Report
|
20 Nov 2011 10:48 |
Hmmm looking at Harry's first born's name this baptism i found earlier fits nicely?
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about William Henry Clark Name: William Henry Clark Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1862 Baptism Date: 20 Apr 1862 Father's Name: William John Clark Mother's Name: Nancy Clark Parish or Poor Law Union: Limehouse St Anne Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Registers
As i said before Nancy/Ann interchange too :-)
off to check the baptism image now nd see what clues are held within. If there's an address they might ahve still been there in 1861 :-/
T x
|
|
Joan
|
Report
|
20 Nov 2011 10:50 |
I have no info on Ann's parents at all.
I wish everyone was accurate with names etc too!!!! I am sending a PM now. Thank you
J x
|
|
WayneTracey
|
Report
|
20 Nov 2011 10:52 |
Ok another question for you...
How far have you drilled into Harry's marriage cert?
By that i mean do you kow the witness's... have you found them on the census?
Could they be relatives? Cousin's....or just family friend's? Sometimes the devil is in the detail.
T x
|
|
HeyJudeB4Beatles
|
Report
|
20 Nov 2011 10:54 |
Births Mar 1863 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CLARK Harry Marylebone 1a 474
Could this be the birth?
Think this Harry is in 1881 in Marylebone with widowed mother Ann (a needlewoman born in 1827)
Jude
|
|
Joan
|
Report
|
20 Nov 2011 10:58 |
No I haven't looked in the witnesses on Harry's marriage certificate.
The witnesses were James Leakey (presumably Alice his wife's father...same name) and Florence Eliza ....looks like Cook(e).
I will try to look further into Florence!!!!!
|
|
WayneTracey
|
Report
|
20 Nov 2011 11:05 |
Ok so chipping away slowly...
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Alice Louisa Leakey Name: Alice Louisa Leakey Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1866 Baptism Date: 18 Nov 1866 Father's Name: James Leakey Mother's Name: Anne Leakey Parish or Poor Law Union: Woolwich St Mary Magdalene Borough: Greenwich Register Type: Parish Registers Born 21st Oct 1866 at Old General Hospital. Father occupation, Private Military.
T x
|
|
WayneTracey
|
Report
|
20 Nov 2011 11:11 |
Alice's siblings,
Name: Edward Leakey Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1873 Baptism Date: 30 May 1873 Father's Name: James Leakey Mother's Name: Anne Leakey Parish or Poor Law Union: Woolwich St Mary Magdalene Borough: Greenwich Register Type: Parish Registers ~~~~ Name: Alfred Thomas Leakey Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1877 Baptism Date: 23 Dec 1877 Father's Name: James Leakey Mother's Name: Anne Leakey Parish or Poor Law Union: Woolwich St Mary Magdalene Borough: Greenwich Register Type: Parish Registers ~~~~ Name: Arthur Lackey [Arthur Leakey] Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1869 Baptism Date: 6 Jun 1869 Father's Name: James Lackey Mother's Name: Ann Lackey Parish or Poor Law Union: Woolwich St Mary Magdalene Borough: Greenwich Register Type: Parish Registers ~~~~ Name: Frederick Leakey Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1875 Baptism Date: 5 Nov 1875 Father's Name: James Leakey Mother's Name: Ann Leakey Parish or Poor Law Union: Woolwich St Mary Magdalene Borough: Greenwich Register Type: Parish Registers ~~~~
T x
|
|
Joan
|
Report
|
20 Nov 2011 11:13 |
Hi Judith.......thanks for helping!
Because I'm from Australia and have no clue as to the layout of London. Is Marylebone near Limehouse? In each census, I have Harry born in East London (1891) London (1901) and London Limehouse (1911) and in each he is born in 1863.
I am not saying it isn't him though. Will definately keep this in mind....
Thanks heaps again
J x
|
|
WayneTracey
|
Report
|
20 Nov 2011 11:15 |
Even Alice was called by her middle name!!!
1881 RG number: RG11 Piece: 742 Folio: 28 Page: 1 Reg. District: Woolwich Sub District: Woolwich Dockyard Address: 10, St Marys St, Woolwich County: London, Kent ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LEAKEY, James Head Married M 47 1834 Labourer Churchill Somerset LEAKEY, Mary A Wife Married F 32 1849 Woolwich Kent LEAKEY, Henry Son Single M 16 1865 Labourer Montreal America LEAKEY, Louisa Daughter Single F 14 1867 Woolwich Kent LEAKEY, Arthur Son Single M 12 1869 Scholar Woolwich Kent LEAKEY, Edward Son Single M 7 1874 Scholar Woolwich Kent LEAKEY, Frederick Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar Woolwich Kent T x
|
|
Joan
|
Report
|
20 Nov 2011 11:24 |
My grandmother, god rest her soul, was also known by her middle name!!!! Oh it makes things so hard!
Could you please answer a question about your research skills? I am absolutely blown out of the water by the detail you have on Alice Louisa Leakey, what date she was born and where etc. Can I also find that info somewhere???
I seem to spend a HUGE amount of time just sourcing snippets of info and you do it all in the blink of an eye. You are amazing!
J x
|
|
HeyJudeB4Beatles
|
Report
|
20 Nov 2011 11:25 |
In modern day London they are about 7 miles apart. Striclty speaking in 1863 I think Limehouse would have been covered by Stepney. But there certainly isn't a birth that matches Stepney.
I don't have subscription to Ancestry at the mo, but this Harry (I think) is with mother Ann - no mention of father again as far as I can see in 1871.
There are plenty of deaths matching John Clark being deceased by 1871
Jude
|
|
WayneTracey
|
Report
|
20 Nov 2011 11:28 |
Found this... looks like Alice Louisa's father.
First name(s): James Last name: LEAKEY Calculated year of birth: 1832 Parish of birth: Churchall Town of birth: Bristol County of birth: Somerset Age at attestation: 23 years Attestation date: 2 February 1855 Attestation corps: Attestation soldier number: Discharge rank: Private Discharge corps: Army Service Corps Discharge soldier number: 134 The National Archives reference: WO97 / 2151 / 62 T x
|
|
WayneTracey
|
Report
|
20 Nov 2011 11:30 |
Hi Joan,
I have subs for most of the major sites and they hold all this info. I will shortly be sending you Alice Louisa's baptism record and the marriage cert for a possible parent's of Harry.
T x
|
|
WayneTracey
|
Report
|
20 Nov 2011 11:39 |
I am emailing yourself James Leakey's military papers :-)
T x
|
|
WayneTracey
|
Report
|
20 Nov 2011 11:44 |
From the military paperwork it does seem indeed it is right that Henry Leakey (Alice's brother) was born in Canada, his father James served 2 1/2 years there!
He also it appears served in the Crimea for 9 months.
T x
|
|
Joan
|
Report
|
20 Nov 2011 11:47 |
Judith.......You may certainly be on to something and I will try to prove you correct.....hopefully. Thanks again x
WayneTracey (tracey I presume and forgive me if that is not correct) Thank you for all you have done.
It is almost 10.40pm Sun day evening here in Australia and unfortuneately I hade to get up early. I so wish I could stay on-line and explore further but ufortunately bed calls. May I PM you another day? You have been so patient and I do really appreciate everything you have done thus far. I look forward to receiving the marriage certicate and military papers. Oh and if I may ask one last thing, my GGG grandfather on the other side of my family served in the army and I know he served in India and died in India on 6.9.1874. His name was Daniel Whayman. If you could perhaps please find his papers also and send them to me I would really be eternally grateful!
Good night
J x
|
|
WayneTracey
|
Report
|
20 Nov 2011 11:52 |
I can't see his papers but i'll keep looking...
Boer War 1899-1902 - Soldier details Name: WHAYMAN, D Rank: Farrier Staff-Sergeant Soldier number: 61580 Unit: Royal Horse Artillery
|
|
Joan
|
Report
|
20 Nov 2011 11:57 |
Just before I retire for the night, Daniel Whayman was born in Grundisburgh, Suffolk in 1834. He died in Umballa, Bengal, India on 6.9.1874. There was another Daniel Whayman who also served in the British army many years later. He was Daniel Bedingfield Whayman, a relation of the first Daniel.
J x
|
|
Joan
|
Report
|
20 Nov 2011 11:58 |
Good night and thanx
J x
|
|
WayneTracey
|
Report
|
20 Nov 2011 12:22 |
Another step backwards on the Leakey side for you. These are Alice's Grandparents.
1851 RG number: HO107 Piece: 1937 Folio: 314 Page: 7 Reg. District: Axbridge Sub District: Address: Churchill Street, Churchill County: Somersetshire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LEAKEY, George Head Married M 50 1801 Agricultural Labourer Winscombe Somerset LEAKEY, Elizabeth Wife Married F 40 1811 Dress Maker Churchill Somerset LEAKEY, James Son Unmarried M 22 1829 Agricultural Labourer Churchill Somerset LEAKEY, John Son Unmarried M 14 1837 Churchill Somerset LEAKEY, Ellen Daughter Unmarried F 10 1841 Churchil Somerset LEAKEY, Martha Daughter Unmarried F 7 1844 Churchill Somerset LEAKEY, William Son Unmarried M 2 1849 Churchill Somerset
~~~~ Louisa's father's baptism.
County Somerset Place Churchill Church St John the Baptist RegisterNumber 676 DateOfBirth 28 Oct 1828 BaptismDate 26 Nov 1837 Forename James Sex M FatherForename George FatherSurname LEAKEY MotherForename Elizabeth Abode Churchill FatherOccupation Labourer FileNumber 11054
|