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Yes Derek but I am wondering if the 'William' on there is actually 'Joseph' ??? - the age is about right and we know that the real William is much older' - I think the names may have been mixed up somehow??

Will work on it this afternoon.

Dea Xxx

Dea..I shouldn't bother too much about William's age....Censuses were notoriously inaccurate in that respect...........there's a lot of work being done here....some feedback from peter would be useful!! Trouble with your version of the 1861..shouldn't Joseph 1854 be on it??

Derek.

Oops - I see Rootgatherer has gone out - perhaps someone else could take a look at that 1861 for me and I will look forther after lunch.

Dea x

I DO have what I think is the family on 1861 but it needs some work as William's age does not ad up.
Perhaps you could take a look for me while I do lunch ??


Possible???

1861 England Census
about Robert Bently
Name: Robert Bently
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert Bently
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Mansfield
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Mansfield
Sub-registration district: Mansfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Piece: 2429
Folio: 67
Page Number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Bently 45 wid. Frame work knitter
Robert Bently 14
William Bentley 6
Dorthy Clark 79
Hanah Selby 41


at Barton Court

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2429; Folio: 67; Page: 4; GSU roll: 542969.

Thanks Rootgatherer,

Dea x

Sorry Dea I was following you 1851 census but can't find any of them in 1861 yet. At least you have started on lunch!! I have to go out now so I will leave you to find them in 1861. Good Luck.

Dratt - was going to post that 1871 census but rootgatherer already posted it ages ago while I was making a start on lunch! - I REALLY think it is the correct one - it has the 3 brothers together and the image is VERY difficult to read so Joseph's age may well not say 11!

Dea x

Could that be a second marriage for Robert?

1841

Name: Robert Bentley
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Mansfield
Hundred: Broxtow (North Division)
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Mansfield
Sub-registration district: Mansfield
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 859
Book: 2
Folio: 8
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Bentley 25 Occ. Stockinger
Ann Bentley 20
William Bentley 10 MO
Phoebe Robotham 20


Deaths Mar 1842 BENTLEY Ann Mansfield 15 384


Births Sep 1840 Bentley William Mansfield 15 504

???

Deaths Jun 1860 Bentley Elizabeth Mansfield 7b 47

Peter..related to work i have done for you elsewhere on the Hudsons:

MARIAN BERTHA HUDSON baptised Staveley Derbys 30.08.1857..daughter of George and Rhoda...........(Source: Staveley Parish records)

Derek.

1871

Name: Robert Bently
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: Stonesfield, Nottinghamshire, England
[Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England]
Civil parish: Eckington
Ecclesiastical parish: Eckington
Town: Eckington
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Chesterfield
Sub-registration district: Eckington
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 172
Piece: 3618
Folio: 17
Page Number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
William Bently 31
Sarah Bently 35
Ellen Bently 10
Mary E Bently 5
Sarah A Bently 2
George R Bently 3 Months
Robert Bently 24
Joseph Bently 11 Brother

Correction details on Ancestry

England Nottinghamshire Mansfield rather than England Nottinghamshire Stonesfield
Correction due to an error in transcription.
Submitted by calnorris on 30/05/2011

'Suspected' parents marriage:



Marriages Jun 1843 (>99%)
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Archer Joseph Mansfield 15 731
Bamford Mary Mansfield 15 731
BENTLEY Robert Mansfield 15 731 *****
DAVISON Elizabeth Mansfield 15 731 ****
HOUGH Sarah Mansfield 15 731
RHODHURST Stephen Gill Mansfield 15 731
SHIPPAM Sarah Mansfield 15 731
Strutt Alfred Mansfield 15 731

Dea x

Well, this looks like the family on 1851 - before Joseph was born:

1851 England Census
about Robert Bentley
Name: Robert Bentley
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizth Bentley
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Mansfd Woodhouse, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Mansfield
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England


Registration district: Mansfield
Sub-registration district: Mansfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 1j
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 159
Piece: 2124
Folio: 229
Page Number: 61
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Bentley 36 Framework Knitter
Elizth Bentley 33
Willm Bentley 10
Dorothy Bentley 6
Robert Bentley 4


at: Newgate Lane - all born Mansfield.

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2124; Folio: 229; Page: 61; GSU roll: 87754

Dea x

Joseph Bentley..baptised Mansfield Notts 09.04.1854 son of Robert Bentley and Elizabeth nee Davison (Source: Parish records)
The 1881 Census has them at staveley..which is definitley my patch!!..and John T was clearly born before they were married....don't take the age of John T too seriously...could have been born anytime within a couple of years of the date shown..I'll check it out for you.

Derek.

What other info does the marriage cert give please - fathers, occupations, addresses, ages, witnesses etc.

Can we have ALL the info please?

Dea x

Hi All
I have the marriage Cert which gives Robert Bentley as Father I Would like more info on Robert who he marrid and siblings . Also the siblings of Joseph.
Best Regards
Peter

??
Births Dec 1875 (>99%)
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HUDSON John Thomas Chesterfield 7b 674

Have you got his date of birth from the IGI entry

Robert Bentley and Elizabeth DAvidson are given as parents but submitted record

Not so obvious pre-marriage
1881 England Census
Joseph Bentley
Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Maria Bentley
Gender: Male Where born: Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil parish: Staveley County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street Address: New Street Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Coal Miner Registration district: Chesterfield Sub-registration district: Eckington
ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Piece: 3443 Folio: 78 Page Number: 30

Joseph Bentley 26
Maria Bentley 23 Staveley, Derbyshire,
John T. Bentley 5 Staveley, Derbyshire,
Charles Bentley 4 Staveley, Derbyshire,
George R. Bentley 2 Staveley, Derbyshire,
Martha Wall 11

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3443; Folio: 78; Page: 30; GSU roll: 1341824.

Added:
If they did not marry until 1878, who does John T belong to?

Presumably?:
Births Jun 1854
BENTLEY Joseph Mansfield 7b 74

Why is your query titled Robert Bentley?

Marriages Sep 1878 (>99%)
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Bentley Joseph Chesterfield 7b 864
Hudson Marian Bertha Chesterfield 7b 864
VICKERS Henry Chesterfield 7b 864
WATTS Mary Chesterfield 7b 864


How do you know he married Marian ?