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Gee

Gee Report 31 Oct 2011 07:09

A tree on Ancestry has this couple as her parents.

Marriages Dec 1844
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HARRIS John Birmingham 16 502
Maries Matilda Birmingham 16 502

1871 England Census
about Rosa A Harris
Name: Rosa A Harris
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Harris
Mother's Name: Matilda Harris
Gender: Female
Where born: Wooton Waren, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Offenham
Town: Offenham
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Evesham
Sub-registration district: Broadway
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 78
Piece: 3061
Folio: 71
Page Number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
John Harris 43
Matilda Harris 44
Arthur J Harris 15
Rosa A Harris 12
John E Harris 9
Ann M Harris 5

1881 England Census
about Matilda Harris
Name: Matilda Harris
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Arthur J. Harris
Gender: Female
Where born: Henley In Arden, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Wootton Wawen
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address: High Street
Condition as to marriage: Married

Registration district: Stratford Upon Avon
Sub-registration district: Wootton Wawen
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3104
Folio: 81
Page Number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur J. Harris 53
Matilda Harris 54
Charles E. Harris 8
Elizabeth Harris

1891 England Census
about Matilda Harris
Name: Matilda Harris
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Harris
Gender: Female
Where born: Henley in Arden, Warwickshire, England <<Address High St

Civil parish: Wootton Wawen
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist
Town: Henley in Arden
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Stratford On Avon
Sub-registration district: Wootton Wawen
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2479
Folio: 66
Page Number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
John Harris 63
Matilda Harris 64
Elizabeth Harris 92
Girtie Harris 4
Edie Harris 2 <<Female


01 England Census
about Matilda Harris
Name: Matilda Harris
Age: 77
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Harris
Gender: Female
Where born: Henley in Arden, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Wootton Wawen
Ecclesiastical parish: Henley in Arden St John
Town: Henley in Arden
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:<<<High St

Registration district: Stratford on Avon
Sub-registration district: Wootton Wawen
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 107
Piece: 2940
Folio: 67
Page Number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
John Harris 73
Matilda Harris 77
Edith Harris 12 <<<Grandaughter




Occupations for John/Arthur John are the same on the censuses so I think its the same family

Is there an address for Rose on her marriage certificate?

Penny

Penny Report 31 Oct 2011 06:01

I wasgoing to say perhaps you need the birth cert of one ofAbraham/Roseanna's children to confirm her maiden name but......

Births Sep 1891
Oughton Fred Bramley 9b 382

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Births Mar 1894
Oughton Olive Bramley 9b 384

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Births Jun 1900
OUGHTON James Harris Bramley 9b 382


Son gets 'Harris' as a middle name.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 31 Oct 2011 00:48

Baptism of Kathleen shows parents James and Ellen:

Name: Kathleen Mary Harris
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1891
Baptism Date: 30 Oct 1891
Father's Name: James Harris
Mother's Name: Ellen Harris
Parish or Poor Law Union: Hampstead St Saviour
Borough: Camden

father a butler, address 12 Fleet Rd born Sept 26 1891

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 30 Oct 2011 23:54

Hi folks, deleted previous thread cos now find I had errors in my info, and correcting them exceeded the word count.

On behalf of a friend.

Abraham Oughton and his sister Sarah emigrated from Liverpool to Philadelphia in 1885. Abraham married Rosanna Harris in Philadelphia in 1887. My friend has the marriage record. No fathers named.

Here is the marriage info:

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Marriage Index, 1885-1951
about Rosanna Harris Name: Rosanna Harris
Gender: Female
Spouse Surname: Oughton (Abraham)
Spouse Gender: Male
Marriage Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Marriage Year: 1887
Marriage License Number: 9457
Digital GSU Number: 4140435

The family appears in Leeds (UK) in 1891:

OUGHTON, Abraham Head Married M 25 1866 General Labourer
Wicklow Ireland VIEW
OUGHTON, Rose A Wife Married F 30 1861
Worcester VIEW
OUGHTON, Samuel Brother Single M 22 1869 General Labourer
Wicklow Ireland VIEW

Piece:
3679 Folio:
110 Page:
46 Registration District:
Bramley

Civil Parish:
Wortley Municipal Borough:
Leeds Address:
17, Danube View, Wortley, Leeds County:
Yorkshire (West Riding)

Here is the family in 1901:

OUGHTON, Abraham Head Married M 39 1862 Gas Stoker
Ireland Wicklow
OUGHTON, Rosanna Wife Married F 41 1860 Worcestershire
OUGHTON, Fred Son M 9 1892 Leeds Yorkshire
OUGHTON, Olive Daughter F 7 1894 LeedsYorkshire
OUGHTON, Thomas Son M 3 1898 Leeds Yorkshire
OUGHTON, James Son M 1 1900 Leeds Yorkshire

Piece:
4209 Folio:
33 Page:
31 Registration District:
Bramley

Civil Parish:
Wortley Municipal Borough:
Address:
15, Lodge Avenue, Wortley County:
Yorkshire (West riding)

Abraham dies and is buried in Leeds in 1906 along with his daughter Olive who died in 1901. My friend knows all this to be true. Here is Rosannah in 1911:

OUGHTON, Rosanah Head Widow F 51 1860 Office Cleaner Stoke Works Worcestershire VIEW
OUGHTON, Thomas Son M 12 1899 School Leeds Yorkshire VIEW
OUGHTON, James Harris Son M 11 1900 School Leeds Yorkshire VIEW

RG number:
RG14 Piece:
18092 Reference:
RG14PN18092 RG78PN1097 RD384 SD3 ED32 SN232

Registration District:
Birmingham Sub District:
St George Enumeration District:
32 Parish:
Birmingham

Address:
2 House Bk No 152 Newtown Row Birmingham County:
Warwickshire

Here is Rosannah's death:

Name: OUGHTON, Rosannah
Registration District: Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
Year of Registration: 1916
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death: 57
Volume No: 6D
Page No: 220

The informant was her sister Ellen, living at 65 St John's Terrace, London. My friend has the will of Roseanna naming her sister Ellen as executor. In 1911, here is Ellen:

HARRIS, Ellen Head Widow F 59 1852 Worcestershire Stoke Bucks
HARRIS, Maud Daughter Single F 28 1883 Millinery London Highbury HARRIS, Kathleen Daughter Single F 19 1892 Music Teacher London Hampstead
FORBES, Edgar Boarder Single M 7 1904

RG number:
RG14 Piece:
581 Reference:
RG14PN581 RG78PN21 RD7 SD4 ED4 SN182

Registration District:
St Marylebone Sub District:
St John Enumeration District:
4 Parish:
St Marylebone

Address:
65 St Johns Wood Terrace N W County:
London

Both daughters have mmn Peat, father James Harris, butler at birth. By their marriages (both on same day) he is a deceased clerk.

And in 1901:

HARRIS, Ellen Head Widow F 43 1858 Servant (Domestic) Stoke
Worcestershire
HARRIS, Maud Daughter F 14 1887 Islington London
HARRIS, Kathleen Daughter F 9 1892 Hampstead London

Piece:
154 Folio:
82 Page:
83 Registration District:
St Pancras

Civil Parish:
St Pancras Municipal Borough:
Address:
10, Rochford Street, St Pancras County:
London

And in 1891:

HARRIS, Ellen Wife Married F 32 1859 Stoke Works Worcestershire
HARRIS, Maud Daughter F 4 1887 Highbury London

Piece:
109 Folio:
55 Page:
45 Registration District:
Hampstead

Civil Parish:
Hampstead Municipal Borough:
Address:
12, Fleet Road, Hampstead County:
London

So who are Rosanna and Ellen Harris? I cannot find a marriage of an Ellen Peat to a James Harris. Either Ellen was not a sister to Rosannah, but a sister-in-law, and James Harris was the brother of Rosannah. Or Ellen was a half-sister and the children were brought up under a different name.

The only likely family with the two girls is this one:

HARRIS, John Head Married M 33 1828 Whitesmith
Henley in Arden Worcestershire
HARRIS, Matilda Wife Married F 31 1830
Henley in Arden Worcestershire
HARRIS, Emily Daughter F 12 1849 Scholar
Ashton Under Hill Worcestershire
HARRIS, Frances Daughter F 9 1852 Scholar
Henley in Arden Worcestershire
HARRIS, Arthur Son M 6 1855 Scholar
Bransgrove Worcestershire
HARRIS, Ellen Daughter F 4 1857 Scholar
Bromsgrove Worcestershire
HARRIS, Rosa Daughter F 2 1859
Wootton Wawen Worcestershire

Piece:
2100 Folio:
74 Page:
49 Registration District:
Evesham

Civil Parish:
Bengeworth Municipal Borough:
Evesham Address:
Avon Terrace, Bengeworth, Evesham County:
Worcestershire

But this Rosa Harris married Jesse Tibbles in 1881:

Marriages Mar 1881 (>99%)
HARRIS Rosa Ann Cheltenham 6a 567
TIBBLES Jesse Cheltenham 6a 567

This Rosa Ann has a father John Harris, a bellhanger. And he is a bellhanger in 1871:

HARRIS, John Head M 43 1828 Warwickshire (Bell Ringer)
HARRIS, Matilda Wife F 44 1827 Warwickshire VIEW
HARRIS, Arthur J Son M 15 1856 Worcestershire VIEW
HARRIS, Rosa A Daughter F 12 1859 Warwickshire VIEW
HARRIS, John E Son M 9 1862 Worcestershire VIEW
HARRIS, Ann M Daughter F 5 1866 Worcestershire VIEW

Piece:
3061 Folio:
71 Page:
15 Registration District:
Evesham

Civil Parish:
Offenham Municipal Borough:
Address:
Northend Of Street, Offenham County:
Worcestershire

HELP!!!!

Margaret