A tree on Ancestry has this couple as her parents.
Marriages Dec 1844 -------------------------------------------------------- HARRIS John Birmingham 16 502 Maries Matilda Birmingham 16 502
1871 England Census about Rosa A Harris Name: Rosa A Harris Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Harris Mother's Name: Matilda Harris Gender: Female Where born: Wooton Waren, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Offenham Town: Offenham County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Registration district: Evesham Sub-registration district: Broadway ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Household schedule number: 78 Piece: 3061 Folio: 71 Page Number: 15 Household Members: Name Age John Harris 43 Matilda Harris 44 Arthur J Harris 15 Rosa A Harris 12 John E Harris 9 Ann M Harris 5
1881 England Census about Matilda Harris Name: Matilda Harris Age: 54 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Arthur J. Harris Gender: Female Where born: Henley In Arden, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Wootton Wawen County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street Address: High Street Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Stratford Upon Avon Sub-registration district: Wootton Wawen ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3104 Folio: 81 Page Number: 21 Household Members: Name Age Arthur J. Harris 53 Matilda Harris 54 Charles E. Harris 8 Elizabeth Harris 1891 England Census about Matilda Harris Name: Matilda Harris Age: 64 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Harris Gender: Female Where born: Henley in Arden, Warwickshire, England <<Address High St Civil parish: Wootton Wawen Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist Town: Henley in Arden County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Registration district: Stratford On Avon Sub-registration district: Wootton Wawen ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2479 Folio: 66 Page Number: 15 Household Members: Name Age John Harris 63 Matilda Harris 64 Elizabeth Harris 92 Girtie Harris 4 Edie Harris 2 <<Female
01 England Census about Matilda Harris Name: Matilda Harris Age: 77 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Harris Gender: Female Where born: Henley in Arden, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Wootton Wawen Ecclesiastical parish: Henley in Arden St John Town: Henley in Arden County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street Address:<<<High St Registration district: Stratford on Avon Sub-registration district: Wootton Wawen ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 107 Piece: 2940 Folio: 67 Page Number: 15 Household Members: Name Age John Harris 73 Matilda Harris 77 Edith Harris 12 <<<Grandaughter
Occupations for John/Arthur John are the same on the censuses so I think its the same family Is there an address for Rose on her marriage certificate?
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I wasgoing to say perhaps you need the birth cert of one ofAbraham/Roseanna's children to confirm her maiden name but......
Births Sep 1891 Oughton Fred Bramley 9b 382
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1894 Oughton Olive Bramley 9b 384
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1900 OUGHTON James Harris Bramley 9b 382
Son gets 'Harris' as a middle name.
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Baptism of Kathleen shows parents James and Ellen:
Name: Kathleen Mary Harris Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1891 Baptism Date: 30 Oct 1891 Father's Name: James Harris Mother's Name: Ellen Harris Parish or Poor Law Union: Hampstead St Saviour Borough: Camden
father a butler, address 12 Fleet Rd born Sept 26 1891
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Hi folks, deleted previous thread cos now find I had errors in my info, and correcting them exceeded the word count.
On behalf of a friend.
Abraham Oughton and his sister Sarah emigrated from Liverpool to Philadelphia in 1885. Abraham married Rosanna Harris in Philadelphia in 1887. My friend has the marriage record. No fathers named.
Here is the marriage info:
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Marriage Index, 1885-1951 about Rosanna Harris Name: Rosanna Harris Gender: Female Spouse Surname: Oughton (Abraham) Spouse Gender: Male Marriage Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States Marriage Year: 1887 Marriage License Number: 9457 Digital GSU Number: 4140435
The family appears in Leeds (UK) in 1891:
OUGHTON, Abraham Head Married M 25 1866 General Labourer Wicklow Ireland VIEW OUGHTON, Rose A Wife Married F 30 1861 Worcester VIEW OUGHTON, Samuel Brother Single M 22 1869 General Labourer Wicklow Ireland VIEW Piece: 3679 Folio: 110 Page: 46 Registration District: Bramley Civil Parish: Wortley Municipal Borough: Leeds Address: 17, Danube View, Wortley, Leeds County: Yorkshire (West Riding) Here is the family in 1901:
OUGHTON, Abraham Head Married M 39 1862 Gas Stoker Ireland Wicklow OUGHTON, Rosanna Wife Married F 41 1860 Worcestershire OUGHTON, Fred Son M 9 1892 Leeds Yorkshire OUGHTON, Olive Daughter F 7 1894 LeedsYorkshire OUGHTON, Thomas Son M 3 1898 Leeds Yorkshire OUGHTON, James Son M 1 1900 Leeds Yorkshire Piece: 4209 Folio: 33 Page: 31 Registration District: Bramley Civil Parish: Wortley Municipal Borough: Address: 15, Lodge Avenue, Wortley County: Yorkshire (West riding) Abraham dies and is buried in Leeds in 1906 along with his daughter Olive who died in 1901. My friend knows all this to be true. Here is Rosannah in 1911:
OUGHTON, Rosanah Head Widow F 51 1860 Office Cleaner Stoke Works Worcestershire VIEW OUGHTON, Thomas Son M 12 1899 School Leeds Yorkshire VIEW OUGHTON, James Harris Son M 11 1900 School Leeds Yorkshire VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 18092 Reference: RG14PN18092 RG78PN1097 RD384 SD3 ED32 SN232 Registration District: Birmingham Sub District: St George Enumeration District: 32 Parish: Birmingham Address: 2 House Bk No 152 Newtown Row Birmingham County: Warwickshire Here is Rosannah's death:
Name: OUGHTON, Rosannah Registration District: Birmingham County: Warwickshire Year of Registration: 1916 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at death: 57 Volume No: 6D Page No: 220
The informant was her sister Ellen, living at 65 St John's Terrace, London. My friend has the will of Roseanna naming her sister Ellen as executor. In 1911, here is Ellen:
HARRIS, Ellen Head Widow F 59 1852 Worcestershire Stoke Bucks HARRIS, Maud Daughter Single F 28 1883 Millinery London Highbury HARRIS, Kathleen Daughter Single F 19 1892 Music Teacher London Hampstead FORBES, Edgar Boarder Single M 7 1904
RG number: RG14 Piece: 581 Reference: RG14PN581 RG78PN21 RD7 SD4 ED4 SN182 Registration District: St Marylebone Sub District: St John Enumeration District: 4 Parish: St Marylebone Address: 65 St Johns Wood Terrace N W County: London Both daughters have mmn Peat, father James Harris, butler at birth. By their marriages (both on same day) he is a deceased clerk.
And in 1901:
HARRIS, Ellen Head Widow F 43 1858 Servant (Domestic) Stoke Worcestershire HARRIS, Maud Daughter F 14 1887 Islington London HARRIS, Kathleen Daughter F 9 1892 Hampstead London
Piece: 154 Folio: 82 Page: 83 Registration District: St Pancras Civil Parish: St Pancras Municipal Borough: Address: 10, Rochford Street, St Pancras County: London And in 1891:
HARRIS, Ellen Wife Married F 32 1859 Stoke Works Worcestershire HARRIS, Maud Daughter F 4 1887 Highbury London
Piece: 109 Folio: 55 Page: 45 Registration District: Hampstead Civil Parish: Hampstead Municipal Borough: Address: 12, Fleet Road, Hampstead County: London
So who are Rosanna and Ellen Harris? I cannot find a marriage of an Ellen Peat to a James Harris. Either Ellen was not a sister to Rosannah, but a sister-in-law, and James Harris was the brother of Rosannah. Or Ellen was a half-sister and the children were brought up under a different name.
The only likely family with the two girls is this one:
HARRIS, John Head Married M 33 1828 Whitesmith Henley in Arden Worcestershire HARRIS, Matilda Wife Married F 31 1830 Henley in Arden Worcestershire HARRIS, Emily Daughter F 12 1849 Scholar Ashton Under Hill Worcestershire HARRIS, Frances Daughter F 9 1852 Scholar Henley in Arden Worcestershire HARRIS, Arthur Son M 6 1855 Scholar Bransgrove Worcestershire HARRIS, Ellen Daughter F 4 1857 Scholar Bromsgrove Worcestershire HARRIS, Rosa Daughter F 2 1859 Wootton Wawen Worcestershire
Piece: 2100 Folio: 74 Page: 49 Registration District: Evesham Civil Parish: Bengeworth Municipal Borough: Evesham Address: Avon Terrace, Bengeworth, Evesham County: Worcestershire But this Rosa Harris married Jesse Tibbles in 1881:
Marriages Mar 1881 (>99%) HARRIS Rosa Ann Cheltenham 6a 567 TIBBLES Jesse Cheltenham 6a 567
This Rosa Ann has a father John Harris, a bellhanger. And he is a bellhanger in 1871:
HARRIS, John Head M 43 1828 Warwickshire (Bell Ringer) HARRIS, Matilda Wife F 44 1827 Warwickshire VIEW HARRIS, Arthur J Son M 15 1856 Worcestershire VIEW HARRIS, Rosa A Daughter F 12 1859 Warwickshire VIEW HARRIS, John E Son M 9 1862 Worcestershire VIEW HARRIS, Ann M Daughter F 5 1866 Worcestershire VIEW Piece: 3061 Folio: 71 Page: 15 Registration District: Evesham Civil Parish: Offenham Municipal Borough: Address: Northend Of Street, Offenham County: Worcestershire HELP!!!!
Margaret
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