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found james lane's death on bmd 1849 so the 1851 census that says ann was a widow is the right one i think thank you all for your help.

Have you both those M/C to know it's the same lady

Marriages from FreeBMD

James Lane to Ann Eliza Simmonds Q4 1845 Lambeth ref 4 321
James Fendell to Ann Eliza Lane Q2 1857 Newington ref 1d 249

whoever has that tree on ancestry have probly got the facts about james lane wrong. i thought i had seen that on the 1851 census a long time ago that was what made me wonder about ann i've only just got back to it as had a lot of family probs thanks for your help
jackie

Trees on Ancestry need to be treated with caution. James Lane b 1825 Great Cheverell is on the 1851 census as unmarried, living with his mother, Sarah, so not likely to be the one who married Ann Simmonds. He is on every census until 1871, married to an Elizabeth in the 1861 and 71.

The birth cert would help:

Births Dec 1854 (>99%)
Fendell Ann Lambeth 1d 251

Oh rats! Ann Lane seems to be a widow on the 51 census. She's 25 and has a 2 year old daughter Ann with her, both born Lambeth.

There is a Tree on Ancestry which shows the 2 marriages of Ann Elizabeth Simmons who married James Lane in 1845 and then married James Fendell in 1857 and has the birth of Jacqueline's GGrandmother Ann 1854 included in the Fendell family
The record shows that James Lane died 28 Mar 1875 West Lavington Wiltshire- the birthplace of James Lane is shown as Great Cheverell Wiltshire 30 June 1825
If the records are accurate it is very unsual for a divorce to have taken place in those times
There are no births on record for Lane /Simmonds marriage

thanks margee that could well be him are they on the 1851 cencus?
jackie

thank you julie i did look but must have missed it
jackie

If this is your James Lane's death, it was Feb. 1853 so he couldn't have fathered a child born Oct. 1854.

London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980
about James Lane Name: James Lane
Record Type: Burial
Estimated Death Date: abt 1853
Burial Date: 11 Feb 1853
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Parish or Poor Law Union: Clapham Holy Trinity
Borough: Lambeth
County: Surrey

Her birth is on the FreeBMD site

thank you ann and potty i knew about the baptisum but couldn't find ann's birth

Was Ann's birth registered as Lane or Fendell? Is this her with her parents:

1861 England Census
about Ann Fendal
Name: Ann Fendal
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James Fendal
Mother's Name: Ann Fendal
Gender: Female
Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: Lambeth St Mary
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address: Brook Court - same address as baptism below
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Lambeth Church First
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 137
Piece: 352
Folio: 89
Page Number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
James Fendal 33
Ann Fendal 36
Ann Fendal 6
Janes Fendal 4
Robert Fendal 1

Baptism:
Name: Ann Fendall
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1854
Baptism Date: 8 Oct 1854
Father's Name: James Fendall
Mother's Name: Ann Fendall
Parish or Poor Law Union: Lambeth St Mary
Borough: Lambeth
Living at Brook Cr.

parents: James Fendall,? Ann


name: Ann Fendall
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 08 Oct 1854
baptism/christening place: St. Mary's, Lambeth, Surrey, England
father's name: James Fendall
mother's name: Ann
indexing project (batch) number: I01672-8
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1041632

sorry i don't know :-(

When did James Lane die?

could anyone please help mygt grandmother was born in 1854 3 yrs before her parents ann and james were married but was james her real father as ann maiden name simmonds was married before to james lane who she married 12/10/1845 in lambeth he died and she married james fendell 26/6/1857 so is anne a lane or fendell?
hope someone can help it will be much appiecated
thank you
jackie