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mne41's tree has 16 people on it

they have Mary Ann Loughnane Birth in Limerick, Ireland married to William Holloway and having Caroline in 1874

and then Caroline having the 4 children as described earlier with James Ellis

James Ellis b Ossett Yorks in 1870 to Emma Ellis born 1846 in Leeds, Yorkshire, no father stated.

Lois is stated as having married John Mason Birth 08/02/1893
Death 14/05/1950 in Birmingham, West Midlands, England. It says they have one son who in turn is married with a son

Hi Catherine.
Thats interesting.
Olive

Hi
I had a contact for Caroline .T. Holloway born 1874 Limerick Ireland.
1891 Census Caroline is living Newton House Sleaford Lincs as a Kitchen Maid.

1901 She is wife to James Ellis born 1870 Oscett Yorkshire,but I have never found a marriage on BMD.

1911 Census Caroline T Ellis is a Widow .

The contact stated that Lois Ellis is his Grandmother ,but that is all I know .
From Olive

just trying to get my head around this family:-

1881
Name: James Ellis
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Maurice Teall
Mother's Name: Emma Teall
Gender: Male
Where born: Ossett, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Ossett Cum Gawthorpe
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: Dale St

Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Dewsbury
Sub-registration district: Ossett
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4567
Folio: 42
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Maurice Teall 30 Occupation: Cabinet Maker
Emma Teall 35
James Ellis 11
Harriet Teall 6
<< Lois Teall 4 (interesting)
Edgar D. Teall 2


1871
Name: James Ellis
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Ossett, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Ossett With Gawthorpe
Ecclesiastical parish: South Ossett
Town: South Ossett
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Dewsbury
Sub-registration district: Ossett
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 70
Piece: 4608
Folio: 41
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Rebecca Ellis 47 born: Ossett, Yorkshire
Ann Ellis 28
<<<< Emma Ellis 25 born: Leeds, Yorkshire (Power Loom Weaver)
John Ellis 20
Joseph L Ellis 17
Lucy Ellis 15
Sophia Ellis 11
Mary E Ellis 6
<<<< James Ellis 1
Lucy Laycock 76 (Mother)

EDIT:-
There is a Teale family living next door but one!

Hi Everyone.

I havnt acsses to Ancestry .co.uk,so is there any more info on the Tree you have found.
I know when Caroline T.Holloway was born ,also when her parents were married ,as I managed to Find William Holloway Army and it states He Married Mary Ann Loughnane In Ireland,(when i visited the Local Librury.)

Olive

Did Caroline marry Mr Ellis??

Caroline T Holloway married 1913 Birmingham to Edward Phillips.

Caroline T Phillips born @ 1874 died 1965 Birmingham.

It was another tree who had Rose Ellis marrying Frank Pilkington/Pilkinton.

Are you sure Rose or Lois belonged to Caroline?

Maryb.

Hi Olive

Edwin's baptism is on ancestry on the Warwickshire, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906 records


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edit

Hi Olive

we are now on page 2

to go to the second page, go to the bottom of the page (underneath the "add your reply" box ) and click on the greenish box on the right that says "2"

Hi Tempest
How did you find out about the .Baptism and the Father on BMD
From Olive

the tree I'm looking at on ancestry doesn't have any marriage details for Rose, James or Arthur only for Lois

it's owned by mne41, it says

Lois was born 14.4.1906 Sheffield
James in Birmingham 2.2.1898
Arthur in Birmingham abt 1900
Rose abt 1907 Sheffield

Hi Mary B

Thankyou for your reply,I will try and find out who Lois Married.
Olive

on Edwin's baptism, William was a house furnisher of Park Road

here's the birth cert index

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Edwin Holloway Ellis Name: Edwin Holloway Ellis
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1896
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 58

Rose Ellis 12/7/1907 - 1983.Sheffield married Frank Pilkington but her parents were Charles Frederick Ellis 1871 and Minnie 1877 nee carrott according to a tree on Ancestry.
They are together on 1911 census in Sheffield.

The tree with Lois on says she married John Mason 1893- 1950 and had a son.

Caroline theresa Holloway born 10/10/1873 in Limerick to William and Mary Ann (Loughnane)

Maryb.

Can't find Lois, but I did find this:-


Name: Edwin Holloway Ellis
Birth Date: abt 1896
Parish: Sutton Coldfield
Baptism Date: 20 Dec 1896
Father's Name: William Ellis
Occupation (looks like) :- House Furnisher
Mother's Name: Caroline Teresa Ellis
address:- Park Road

...........Edwin's middle name is Holloway and Caroline's middle name is Teresa, so it's too big a coincidence not to relevant, but the father here is William????
......wonder if there's been a bit of hanky panky here????


Births Dec 1896 (>99%)
Ellis Edwin Holloway Birmingham 6d 58

I posted the 1901 as background to see if it named any other children in the hope that it would also help to find Lois.

As you can see it doesn't help!

any idea of the name of the other child who was still alive in 1911 please?

>>edit there is a tree on ancestry with the family on with a Rose born Sheffield in 1907

not finding Lois or Rose at present

Hi Catherine.
Sorry about that I missed read the 1901 Census Thankyou.
Going back to the 1911 Census ,so James Ellis born 1870 Osett Yorkshire. has now died .

The person I am looking for on 1911 Census is Lois Ellis born Sheffield 1906
From Olive

Olive,
The census with James Ellis (Head) that tempest has posted is 1901 census and not the 1911 one.
Maureen has posted the 1911 census for you.
:-)

Thankyou for your reply.
Thats really strange as I had a 1911 Census found for me and it states Caroline EllisHead Widow born Limerick Ireland
James Ellis Son Born1898 Birm
Arthur Ellis Son Born 1900 Birm

But the one you have found sounds right as James Ellis Head was born Osett Yorkshire
Anyway any idea where Lois Ellis is living born 1906 Sheffield
Please
Olive

1901 census for background

Address: 42, Norman Street Winson Green, Birmingham

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

ELLIS, James Head Married M 31 1870 Carpenter Ossett Yorkshire
ELLIS, Caroline Teresa Wife Married F 27 1874 Limerick Ireland
ELLIS, James Son M 3 1898 Birm Warwickshire
ELLIS, Arthur Son M 1 1900 Birm Warwickshire


on the 1911 it says Caroline had 6 children to her marriage, 4 were still living and 2 had died

Hi
Up Date on 1911 Census
Caroline Ellis nee Holloway had a daughter called ==
Lois Ellis Born 1906 Shefield ,I wonder where Lois was living on 1911 Census Please
From Olive

Hi Maureen.
Thankyou so much for finding the 1911 Census for me
From Olive