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I found it through searching Ancestry.com,marriage banns,census records etc.

Maryb.

Mary can you just tell the rest of us where info like

'George married in halifax to Eliza Hanson in 1852 had Hanson son 1852 died 1877 married Ann Swift 23/10/1875 dad George a Stoker.'
( that is Hanson Hargreaves married Ann Swift as I am reading it )

has come from ? thanks

so he married Eliza Hanson then Priscilla Thorp ... at least that George Hargreaves did, whether he is our George Hargreaves ...

Pauline can you PM me and I will give you my email so you can forward marriage cert of Sarah Ann and George hargreaves to see what i can make of his occupation.

Maryb.

More info on Priscilla.

George married in halifax to Eliza Hanson in 1852 had Hanson son 1852 died 1877 married Ann Swift 23/10/1875 dad George a Stoker.

George a widow and Engineer son of Christopher a mechanic married Priscilla Thorp daughter of David thorp a weaver 6/101855 in halifax.
Witnesses John thomas and William Ambler,Priscilla signed her name George didn't.

Priscilla Thorp 1837 born to Betsy Thorp.

Betsy Thorp married John Timewell in 1839 in Halifax

Betsy Timewell (dad John Ambler) married Abraham Thomas 1871 one witness was Priscilla Hargreaves and william Ambler

So that George married twice at least.

Maryb

okay so we know this is Sarah in 1901 because she is with Amy Cass who is the sister of Robert Whitley ...

Name: Sarah A Hargraves
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Sister-in-Law
Gender: Female
Where born: Doncaster, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Doncaster

Walter Cass 35
Amy Cass 32
Herbert Cass 11
Maria Cass 10
Esther Cass 8
James Cass 3
Albert Cass 11 Months
Sarah A Hargraves 53
Cyril Whiteley 2

oops I forgot to notice that the 'Priscilla who died' did it -after- the marriage to Sarah Ann ... so there's really no reason to think they were the same George ?

but it's possible since that Priscilla is not with her husband in 1871 ...

again complete info helps so much ... I can't find Selina and Priscilla Hargreaves in 1871 from that info ... here we are not quite as given

Name: Selina Hargaraves
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Granddaughter
Mother's Name: Priscila Hargaraves
Gender: Female
Where born: Halifax, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Northowram
Registration district: Halifax

Betsy Fimewell 61
Priscila Hargaraves 33
Selina Hargaraves 12
Balmforth Basker 30


likely still her death in 1874 in Halifax reg dist ?

The George that married Priscilla.

June 2nd 1884 daughter Selina Hargreaves born @ 1858 Halifax married Pilling Ackroyd,George Hargreaves is a Shoe maker.

1871 Selina Hargeaves with mum Priscilla age 33 married.
Head of house Betsy Fimewell Priscilla's mum.

So if George is the same one who married Sarah Ann in 1868 then he was a bigamist.

Maryb

Robert Whitley, Sarah Anne's brother, was my Grandmother's father.

Sorry about that, Margee!

Think I'm on my limit with the vodafone key (no ADSL in this area of Italy) so will have to go. You've all been very good, I wonder if that is Sarah in the Workhouse and her husband had taken off to be a sailor! Thanks everyone.

Just to prove that I'm not losing it, you did say, Pauline that she was with her father on the 71 census.

I c&p'd it:

"The marriage was a civil one, and states that George's father was Christopher Hargreaves, Millwright. I haven't got much information about George except that he married Sarah Ann Hargreaves, who in the 1871 census was at home with her father and blind. She later goes to live with her sister, and only in one of the later census does it say she is a widow, so I am puzzled as to what became of him. "


I realize it was probably just a typo and you meant 1881.

death of Priscilla Hargreaves ?

Deaths Dec 1874
HARGREAVES Priscilla 37 Halifax 9a 361

given the age of the George married to her ... have you considered this couple for yours in 1871 ?

Name: Sarah A Hargraves
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George Hargraves
Gender: Female
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Name: George Hargraves
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah A Hargraves
Gender: Male
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: All Saints
Town: Newcastle Upon Tyne
County/Island: Northumberland
Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne

George Hargraves 41 labourer
Sarah A Hargraves 34 spinner
Joseph Hargraves 8
Fred Hargraves 6
Charles Hargraves 5 Months


George son of Christopher in 1851 was 19 years old, that is born 1831-32

the age '30' on his marriage certificate could have been fudged especially if he was so much older than Sarah


how do you know that the Sarah who is blind is your Sarah ?
can you tell us your relationship with these people ?
who it is you are descended from ?
if your couple did not have children, not from them ?

Sorry if I'm being a bit vague, you are all very good and patient. I thought I'd got all my papers organised but I just can't find the one I want quickly!

I think it was in 1871 she may have been in a workhouse ?

'I found a George married to Priscilla who died, they had a child called Hanson, who I found living with the Ovenden family at some point.'

this is all too vague to help us at all ......... we have to go looking for it ourselves ...

1861

Name: George Hargreaves
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 ***
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Priscilla Hargreaves
Gender: Male
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Northowram
County/Island: Yorkshire
Registration district: Halifax

George Hargreaves 30 steam engine stoker worsted ? mill
Priscilla Hargreaves 23 powerloom weaver worsted
Hanson Hargreaves 8
Selina Hargreaves 2


1871

Name: Hanson Hargreaves
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Ovenden, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Ovenden

Martha Hargreaves 66
Hannah Hargreaves 42
Amalia Hargreaves 34
Hanson Hargreaves 18
Alfred Hargreaves 14


same for Sarah in 1871 ... union workhouse ... where ? ...

Name: Sarah Hargraves
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Pauper
Gender: Female
Where born: Doncaster, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Yorkshire
Registration district: Doncaster
ED, institution, or vessel: Doncaster Union Workhouse

Found it (1871 Union Workhouse census), it also states that she was a domestic servant which is what she was on the marriage certificate.

1871 Pauline said there is Sarah Hargraves in Doncaster Workhouse unmarried registered Blind as she is in 1901 with sister Amy Cass.

Maryb

No, I found a Sarah Hargreaves, blind but unmarried in the Workhouse, Doncaster, in the census of 1871!

In 1891 Sarah is a widow. She died in 1909.

You said that she was with her father on the 71 census but she isn't.

1871 England Census
about Henry Whiteley Name: Henry Whiteley
[Henry Whitley]
Age: 2 Months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph Whiteley
Mother's Name: Eliza Whiteley
Gender: Male
Where born: Doncaster, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Doncaster
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Doncaster
Sub-registration district: Doncaster
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 106
Piece: 4718
Folio: 38
Page Number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Whiteley 47
Eliza Whiteley 41
William Whiteley 20
Ester Whiteley 16
Robert Whiteley 6
Alice Whiteley 4
Amy Whiteley 2
Henry Whiteley 2 Months

The residence is Brierley (for both) and the witnesses are John Metcalfe and Mary Patrick, the Registrar was Joshua Patrick so I think Mary was his wife. His age is given as 30 (thus dob 1838)