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Edward Irving, west Derby 1925

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Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 28 Sep 2011 23:04

David...I dont have access to the Census to check anything for you but the index (above in the tool bar) shows the one I was referring to...

1911...

Bates Winifred Emily 1896 Birkenhead Cheshire West Derby.
I have not yet located an Edward P....

Why dont you ask someone to check them out for you if you dont have access yourself.

paddyirish

paddyirish Report 28 Sep 2011 20:32

once again thanks for your help. after a bit of research it seems that Winifred was in some sort of hospital in the 1911 cencus and that if i have the correct edward p irving he was the son of a school teacher. both seem to be born 1903 so if this is my grandparents they were only 14/15 years old at the time of getting married. was this a legal age to get married back then?

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 28 Sep 2011 18:13

David ...Your more than welcome.,...

You are not alone in the situation of not knowing about previous generations...the same story repeats itself ....No one spoke about anyone.....just check out some of the queries on here..!!

paddyirish

paddyirish Report 28 Sep 2011 17:47

thankyou for all the info, its a great help. the reason i couldnt find a match on GR for the marriage cert is because it comes up showing edward p irving being married to a william r bates but the ref code 8b 437 is there. my father was a quiet man and didnt speak a lot of his time as a child and i can not remember ever meeting any of his family ie my uncles aunts ect. he spoke of having about 12 brothers and sisters and that he was placed in an orphanage but thats about the limit of my knowledge of his younger life but once again thanks to you all for your help.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 28 Sep 2011 17:28

Another child Dorothy Irving birth Reg March 1920...8b 1343.West Derby.


1911 Census index (L'Pool) shows only 1 Winifred E (Emily) Bates living West Derby.....born Birkenhead

paddyirish

paddyirish Report 28 Sep 2011 17:22

Winifred name seems the most plausible. and yes that is the ref that i have thankyou Vera and Thankyou eringobragh for that information.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 28 Sep 2011 17:18

Married at Emmanuel Church Everton...(according to Lancs BMD.)
Records Held L'Pool Records Office.

Vera

Vera Report 28 Sep 2011 17:13

Is this the one you found....

Births Dec 1925 (>99%)
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Irving Edward ......... Bates...... W.Derby 8b 1026


Regards Vera



Vera

Vera Report 28 Sep 2011 17:10

Any good???

Marriages Jun 1917 (>99%)
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Irving Edward P Bates Winifred E ........... W.Derby 8b 437

paddyirish

paddyirish Report 28 Sep 2011 17:06

Hi, Im looking for any help with trying to locate Irving family. My father was edward Irving, born 14 aug 1925. mothers maiden name was Bates. My father married an Edna Boatswain in Bournemouth in 1953 and gives his fathers name as Edward Peter Irving. sadly he passed away in Queens Park Hospital, blackburn in 1996. My Father seems to have had 5 brothers and sisters, agnes W born 1918, Edna M 1923, Terence 1927, winifred J 1929 and Robert J 1931. the problem is that i can not seem to find a marriage entry for an Edward Peter Irving to a bates and thus i am stuck at trying to find my Grand mothers full name. I am in touch with the liverpool register but they are having troubles locating my fathers birth cert although i have a reference number for it, i would be grateful for any help with this matter, thankyou Dave irving