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William Brew,liverpool,irish loftus/brew/conaught

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Claire

Claire Report 9 Oct 2011 16:23

Sorry phone being dumb ,the older honora of the two had a father called Patrick loftus.....

Claire

Claire Report 9 Oct 2011 16:22

Hi ya,well I would say catholic,but I don't think john and honora got married in a catholic church...I know William brew was catholic...also guessing.. is perhaps it could be George brew as he seems to disappear... With regards to loftus connections...on marriage certifcate it states Patrick loftus to bhonora s father...there is two honora loftus...one born in year ..but her father

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 9 Oct 2011 14:30

Sorry Claire...I should have been more clearer..!
Religion....is what I was after...

Was it a Brew or a Loftus that was transported.....?

Plenty of Loftus' sent out from the Co Mayo.
The Brew's less so although a Patrick Brew was Trans.1852 for Vagrancy...!!

Claire...I would suggest that there may be some children missing from John and Honor's marriage....
Given they were married in 1858 I would have expected earlier births than mid 1860's...also if they followed the traditional Irish naming pattern I would be after looking for a Michael ( John's fathers name) and a Patrick (Nora's fathers name)

Claire

Claire Report 9 Oct 2011 12:49

relation to familes?sorry new to this?my grandmothers father is william brew son of honora brew nee loftus and john brew...is that what you mean??..your help is fantastic thank you.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 9 Oct 2011 12:42

Claire....Can you confirm for me the Rel. of the families...?

Claire

Claire Report 9 Oct 2011 12:41

i have,thank you of reminder to add to tree...everyone needs a fairy godmother!!:)

Claire

Claire Report 9 Oct 2011 12:37

nan said yesterday,her dad talked of a brother transported for stealing a loaf of bread....

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 9 Oct 2011 12:32

Put on your tree that Patrick Loftus was a Joiner.

Michael Brew was a Labourer.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 9 Oct 2011 12:20

Claire have you seen the marriage between John Brew and Honora?

Claire

Claire Report 9 Oct 2011 12:04

that makes more sense...thank you..

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 9 Oct 2011 11:45

This maybe Maria's death just a couple of months after her birth?? Mistranscribed as Mary??

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Mary Brew
Name: Mary Brew
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1869
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: West Derby
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 393

Claire

Claire Report 9 Oct 2011 11:04

i wonder?.....how mean to leave the kids to get on with it?
also with twins honora and maria...did one die?(1871 just 1yr honora)
or did they give one away? a mary brew dad john brew/honora formely loftus got married on 28th nov 1914 to a james e bell...but it links to girls baptism orm..when i looked up marriage it was a mary dickinson....

Claire

Claire Report 9 Oct 2011 10:58

Fantastic,thank you both,mum coming back from ireland today..does not sound like she has got any further :S...so complex...:)

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 9 Oct 2011 10:57

Just a thought.

When the brothers and sister are living together on the 1891 census Honora had died by then as her death was in 1890. I wonder if John went back to Ireland?

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 9 Oct 2011 10:37

Morning All,

Glad Erin is on the track. I said we needed her Claire.

Have'nt had a lot of time lately to look for you.

Claire

Claire Report 9 Oct 2011 09:32

hi,yes he was in his late 40s when he married my great grandmother who was 20yrs younger than him.....

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 9 Oct 2011 09:06

Claire...Re Connaught Rangers...(The Devil's Own)

An Irish Reg. of the British Army formed 1881 and disbanded 1922.
The regiment recruited mainly in the counties of Galway, Roscommon, Mayo, Sligo and Leitrim:
Its garrison depot was located in the Co.Galway.

Is the Wm Brew (b West Derby 1872) the same one as married in Bristol 1920 ...? or am I missing a Wm along the line...?? That would make him in his late 40's when he married





Claire

Claire Report 8 Oct 2011 20:42

BREW, Frances Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 13 Oct 1861 Recorded in: West Derby, Lancashire, England
Collection: St Mary the Virgin; BTs
Father: John Brew
Mother: Honora
Source: FHL Film 1468982 Dates: 1808 - 1872

BREW, George Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 1 Dec 1867 Recorded in: West Derby, Lancashire, England
Collection: St Mary the Virgin; BTs
Father: John Brew
Mother: Honona
Source: FHL Film 1468982 Dates: 1808 - 1872

BREW, William Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 8 Sep 1872 Recorded in: Bootle Cum Linacre, Lancashire, England
Collection: Christ Church
Father: John BREW
Mother: Honora
Source: FHL Film 1468977 Dates: 1866 - 1879

Claire

Claire Report 8 Oct 2011 20:41

BREW, John Age: 24 Marriage
Wife: Hannoria LOFTUSE Age: 24
Marriage Date: 8 Nov 1858 Recorded in: Edge Hill, Lancashire, England
Collection: St Mary
Husband's Father: Michael BREW
Wife's Father: Patrick LOFTUSE
Source: FHL Film 1545764 Dates: 1845 - 1865

Claire

Claire Report 8 Oct 2011 20:40

Marriages Dec 1858 (>99%)
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Brew John W. Derby 8b 554
Loftuse Hannome W Derby 8b 554