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MaureeninNY
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25 Sep 2011 23:58 |
Honestly,I don't have a clue if your research is "good" or not. You do seem to have a pretty firm idea of your ancestors.
Have you actually purchased a cert from: http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
(references are found on FreeBMD) to see if all the info matches??
Best, Maureen
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Craig
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14 Oct 2011 20:49 |
right guys got the wedding cert of the william worrall my great great grandad,on it is as following: william Worrall age:21 stat:b date:25 Aug 1904 :job:stamper abode:bricklin st farther:william worrall(dec) farther trade:collier female married florence bird.right where would you guys take it from there??would any more certs need to be purchased
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14 Oct 2011 21:31 |
1911 census - household transcription Person: WORRALL, William Address: 3 Palace Yard Satchwell St Leamington
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WORRALL, William Head Married M 28 1883 Labourer Plasterer Warwickshire Leamington VIEW WORRALL, Florence Wife Married 6 years F 24 1887 Warwickshire Leamington VIEW WORRALL, William Son M 3 1908 Warwickshire Leamington VIEW MULRAINE, John Boarder Single M 31 1880 Labourer General Warwickshire Leamington VIEW
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1883 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Worrall William Warwick 6d 617
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MaureeninNY
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15 Oct 2011 01:17 |
? Don't think so,jax. Didn't patchem find them on the other thread: 1911 WORRAL, William Head Married 6 years M 26 1885 Press Tool Setter Staffordshire Willenhall WORRAL, Florence Wife Married F 25 1886 Staffordshire Willenhall WORRAL, Gerald Son M 6 1905 School Staffordshire Willenhall WORRALL, Blanche E Daughter F 1 1910 Staffordshire Willenhall BIRD, Agnes Lodger Single F 18 1893 Power Presser Staffordshire Willenhall BIRD, Doris Lodger F 9 1902 School Staffordshire Willenhall W RG number: RG14 Piece: 17098 Reference: RG14PN17098 RG78PN1053 RD369 SD6 ED16 SN121
Registration District: Wolverhampton Sub District: Willenhall Enumeration District: 16 Parish: Willenhall Address: 7 Bk Brickkiln St Portobello Near Wolverhampton County: Staffordshire
Maureen PS-It's taking me a while to get up to speed again on this thread.
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jax
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15 Oct 2011 01:26 |
Yep just looked up their marriage 1906...they could'nt count :-D
cant be asked looking up other threads even though it was me that mentioned it
jax
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MaureeninNY
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15 Oct 2011 01:41 |
LOL! Don't know if I'll be able to do much tonight. Something is responding very slowly.(GR ,internet or the computer?? cerainly not me!!).
Maureen Edit: ??????????????? cerainly
I Dunno.............
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MaureeninNY
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15 Oct 2011 02:10 |
So-I guess it's not the family that Craig thought as these don't match to Dad being a deceased collier by 1904.
1901 census transcription details for: 1, Cannock Road Culwell Terrace, Wolverhampton RG number: RG13 Piece: 2679 Folio: 126 Page: 7 Reg. District: Wolverhampton Sub District: Wolverhampton Eastern Parish: Wolverhampton Enum. District: 7 Ecclesiastical District: St Mary's City/Municipal Borough: Address: 1, Cannock Road Culwell Terrace, Wolverhampton County: Staffordshire WORRALL, William Head Married M 49 1852 Painter & Glazier Wolverhampton Staffordshire WORRALL, May Wife Married F 50 1851 Willenhall Staffordshire WORRALL, James Son Single M 26 1875 Striker Blacksmith Wolverhampton Staffordshire WORRALL, Harry Son Single M 23 1878 Wheel Tapper Railway Wolverhampton Staffordshire WORRALL, John L Son Single M 19 1882 Boiler Smith Wolverhampton Staffordshire WORRALL, Samuel A Son Single M 17 1884 Iron Moulder Wolverhampton Staffordshire WORRALL, William Son Single M 16 1885 Iron Moulder Wolverhampton Staffordshire WORRALL, Horace Son Single M 14 1887 Barber Wolverhampton Staffordshire WORRALL, George Son Single M 12 1889 Wolverhampton Staffordshire WORRALL, Florence M Daughter Single F 7 1894 Wolverhampton Staffordshire WORRALL, Frederick H Son Single M 4 1897 Wolverhampton Staffordshire ANSLOW, William Boarder Single M 20 1881 Stoker Railway Wolverhampton Staffordshire .............. 1911 census transcription details for: 72 Stafford St Wolverhampton
RG14PN17055 RG78PN1052 RD369 SD5 ED3 SN76 Reg. District: Wolverhampton Sub District: Wolverhampton Eastern Parish: Wolverhampton Enum. District: 3 Address: 72 Stafford St Wolverhampton County: Staffordshire
WORRALL, William Head Married M 59 1852 Glaizer Staffs Wolverhampton WORRALL, Mary Wife Married 38 years F 60 1851 Staffs Willenhall WORRALL, Henry Arthur Son Single M 33 1878 Railway Wagon Examiner Staffs Wolverhampton WORRALL, Horace Edward Son Single M 24 1887 Paint Manufacturers Warehouseman Staffs Wolverhampton WORRALL, George Thomas Son Single M 22 1889 Law Clerk Staffs Wolverhampton WORRALL, Florence May Daughter Single F 17 1894 Domestic Staffs Wolverhampton WORRALL, Frederick Harold Son M 14 1897 Errand Boy Staffs Wolverhampton WORRALL, Violet Niece Single F 19 1892 Steam Laundry Maid Staffs Wolverhampton WORRALL, James Leonard Grandson M 6 1905 Staffs Wolverhampton
Maureen PS Sorry-posted by our Jennifer . I can't keep up.
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Craig
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15 Oct 2011 18:32 |
Hey guys thanks for in but,i think thoses info aren't of my great great grandad.in 1911 he lived in bricklin st willenhall with my great great gran mother florence.On their marrage cert its was on 1904 he was 21 so im thinking he was born on 1883,she was 19 at the time.
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MarieCeleste
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15 Oct 2011 18:42 |
1901:
WARRALL, Jane Head Widow F 57 1844 Willenhall Staffordshire WARRALL, Arthur Son Single M 22 1879 Pad Lock Plate Presser Willenhall Staffordshire WARRALL, William Son Single M 17 1884 Stamper Ironwork Willenhall Staffordshire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Registration District: Wolverhampton Civil Parish: Willenhall
Address: 25, Bridge Street, Willenhall, Portobello County: Staffordshire
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MarieCeleste
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15 Oct 2011 18:45 |
1891:
WARRALL, William Head Married M 52 1839 Coal Miner Willenhall Staffordshire WARRALL, Jane Wife Married F 50 1841 Willenhall Staffordshire WARRALL, James Son Single M 19 1872 Pad Lock Maker Willenhall Staffordshire WARRALL, Richard Son Single M 17 1874 Iron Stamper Willenhall Staffordshire WARRALL, Arthur Son M 12 1879 Scholar Willenhall Staffordshire WARRALL, Jane Daughter F 10 1881 Scholar Willenhall Staffordshire WARRALL, William Son M 8 1883 Scholar Willenhall Staffordshire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Registration District: Wolverhampton Civil Parish: Willenhall
Address: 11 Court 7, Walsall Street, Willenhall County: Staffordshire
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MarieCeleste
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15 Oct 2011 18:53 |
Parent's ages different in 1881, but sure it's the same family:
WORRALL, William Head Married M 35 1846 Coal Miner Tipton Staffordshire WORRALL, Jane Wife Married F 35 1846 Willenhall Staffordshire WORRALL, Mary Daughter Single F 15 1866 Willenhall Staffordshire WORRALL, James Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar Willenhall Staffordshire WORRALL, Richard Son Single M 7 1874 Scholar Willenhall Staffordshire WORRALL, Arthur Son Single M 2 1879 Willenhall Staffordshire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Registration District: Wolverhampton Civil Parish: Willenhall
Address: 20, King Street, Chapel Green, Willenhall County: Staffordshire
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MarieCeleste
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15 Oct 2011 18:56 |
1871 - ages inconsistent, but that's not unusual!
WORRELL, William Head M 25 1846 Staffordshire Coal Miner, b Tipton WORRELL, Jane Wife F 24 1847 Staffordshire WORRELL, Mary Daughter F 3 1868 Staffordshire WORRELL, Sarah Daughter F 1 1870 Staffordshire
** Rest all born Willenhall -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Registration District: Wolverhampton Civil Parish: Willenhall
Address: King St, Willenhall County: Staffordshire
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Craig
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15 Oct 2011 18:59 |
thanks alot marie gotta pop out so will defo be look at these later on tonight,looks like your on to a winner,i know on marriage cert williams dad was a collier but he was deceased on cert
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MarieCeleste
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15 Oct 2011 19:12 |
This is a submitted record on IGI so can't be taken as gospel:
William Worrall Marriages: Spouse: Jane Bucknall Family Marriage: About 1864 Willenhall, Stafford, England
Might tie in with:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Mar 1865 ??Bucknall Jane Wolverhampton 6b 533 Burns George Wolverhampton 6b 533 Smith Ann Maria Wolverhampton 6b 533 ??Wa__all William Wolverhampton 6b 533
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MarieCeleste
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15 Oct 2011 19:20 |
Unfortunately 2 William Worrall's born close together:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Births Sep 1883 WORRALL William Wolverhampton 6b 594
Births Jun 1885 Worrall William Wolverhampton 6b 550
If I was going to take a gamble I'd go for the earlier one and get the certificate to see mother's maiden name and then know if the 1865 marriage above was correct.
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MarieCeleste
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15 Oct 2011 19:34 |
A possible 1851 for the father, but subject to verification:
COOPER, David Head Married M 42 1809 Engineer Tipton Staffordshire COOPER, Mary Wife Married F 39 1812 Ireland COOPER, Elizabeth Daughter F 13 1838 Bilston Staffordshire COOPER, Caroline Daughter F 7 1844 Bilston Staffordshire COOPER, David Son M 5 1846 Tipton Staffordshire WORRALD, Ann Visitor Married F 36 1815 Brick Maker Tipton Staffordshire WORRALD, Phoebe Daughter F 7 1844 Tipton Staffordshire >>WORRALD, William Son M 5 1846 Tipton Staffordshire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Registration District: Walsall Civil Parish: Darlaston
Address: Cramp Hill Bank, Darlaston County: Staffordshire
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MaureeninNY
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16 Oct 2011 00:17 |
YES!,that's gotta be them. But really,MC, "subject to verification"
Maureenxxx
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MarieCeleste
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16 Oct 2011 11:25 |
Eh! There are those on here who will shoot one down in flames for suggesting a person on a census may be a member of family without buying a certificate to verify it - am merely avoiding their wrath!! ;-)
Seriously, I'm struggling to find a birth for William b1846 in Tipton, and there are a few lads in that neck of the wood with the same name.
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MaureeninNY
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16 Oct 2011 13:46 |
That area does seem to be the Wo*rr*l* "hot spot",doesn't it? Heck-I can't even see Phoebe (or variations) let alone William! Just a "well done" to Craig for actually purchasing a cert, So many people don't bother !
Best, Maureen
MC-my flame thrower is safely tucked away under my bed. Probably needs dusting. ;-)
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Craig
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16 Oct 2011 15:57 |
hey guys really appriciate the time you've put in,i've ordered the birth cert for william worrall 1883 so least i'll get his mothers maden name aswell.I was following the 1885 worrall line for abit but as soon as i got the marrage cer for worrall to bird it was on the sept 1904 and he was 21 in age so that told me on was following the wrong one and it was infact the 1883 william worrall
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