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Hi Vera, sorry no thats what i am trying to find,
Sorry about being a bother,
Ann

Hi Ann,

No problem, thought I would ask. Of course you are not a bother.

Regards Vera

Hi Vera,
Not being much help here am I?
Ann

1881
Might have nothing to do with your William again the years of birth do not match.


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SMITH, James Tiggle Head Married M 42 1839 Carpenter (Master 1 Boy)
St Albans
Hertfordshire VIEW
SMITH, Harriet Wife Married F 38 1843
St Albans
Hertfordshire VIEW
SMITH, Harriet Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar
St Albans
Hertfordshire VIEW
SMITH, Wm J Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar
St Albans
Hertfordshire VIEW
SMITH, Mary E Daughter Single F 3 1878
St Albans
Hertfordshire VIEW
SMITH, Saml Son Single M 2 1879
St Albans
Hertfordshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
1431 Folio:
85 Page:
27

Registration District:
St Albans Sub District:
St Albans Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
St Albans St Peter Municipal Borough:
Address:
Alexandra Road, St Albans St Peter County:
Hertfordshire

Regards Vera

I am confused now

You say they had a son in 1898?? do you know that for a fact? what proof have you got please?

jax

Hi Ann,

Looks like you might have to get the marriage certificate.

Regards Vera

Marriages Sep 1893 (>99%)
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Mardling Eliza St. Alban's 3a 852
Smith William St. Alban's 3a 852


Regards Vera

Ann posted the marriage on pg 1

Groom's Name: William Smith
Groom's Birth Date: 1856
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 37
Bride's Name: Eliza Mardling
Bride's Birth Date: 1861
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 32
Marriage Date: 1893
Marriage Place: Saint Peter, Saint Albans, Hertford, England
Groom's Father's Name: James Smith
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: Charles Mardling
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M07286-6
System Origin: England-VR
Source Film Number: 1537907
Reference Number: 2:K7G97X

Thanks Jax...but it doesn't give any occupations.

Regards Vera

I know Vera

But is this the couple Ann is looking for? Who is Frederick born 1899? is Ann decended from him?



jax

Hi all,
many thanks for your time and help, I think I will have to get the marriage cert like you have said.
You have all been so helpful, again many thanks,
Ann.

Hi Jax, I am going by the brides maiden name as far as the certificate is concerned.
The family I found with an Eliza and William and daughter Mildred and a son Frederick I cannot be sure that they are Anns family..also the years of birth are not correct...but thought I would show them to her.

Regards Vera

Jax
Frederick Smith born abt 1899 was my husbands Grandfather he married a Mildred Beckwith, kind regards Ann.

Ann

You are not being a bother. but if we can have the full details you have... we maybe able to find them

Who is the child Frederick ? do you have his birth cert giving them as the parents?

jax

So the names etc you gave at the start are guesswork?

This is the marriage........................

Marriages Sep 1921 (>99%)
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Beckwith Mildred E Smith St.Albans 3a 2148
Smith Frederick G Beckwith St.Albans 3a 2148

Are you assuming that he was born in St Albans because he married there?

Do you have this marriage cert?

If not.........you really NEED it

Is this the birth which you think may be his?

Births Sep 1899 (>99%)
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Smith Frederick George St. Alban's 3a 683

This is likely to be the child whose birth I posted

1911

: SMITH, Frederick
Address: Welham Green North Mimms Hatfield Hertfordshire

SMITH, Alfred Head Married M 44 1867 Farm Labourer Weston Hertfordshire VIEW
SMITH, Annie Wife Married
19 years F 40 1871 Weston Hertfordshire VIEW
SMITH, Arthur Son M 13 1898 School Cromer Hyde H Herts VIEW
SMITH, Frederick Son M 11 1900 School London Conley St Albany VIEW
SMITH, Lily Daughter F 8 1903 School Napsbury St Albans VIEW
SMITH, George Son M 6 1905 School Herts Wellham Green VIEW
SMITH, William Son M 3 1908 Herts Wellham Green VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
7640 Reference:
RG14PN7640 RD138 SD1 ED3 SN25

Registration District:
Hatfield Sub District:
Hatfield Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
North Mimms

Mildred was born in Edmonton

Births Jun 1904 (>99%)
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Beckwith Mildred Ethel Edmonton 3a 493


Maybe you have Fredericks birth cert Ann... so could you confirm the details

I don' t think Ann has any certs.........otherwise she would not have said that Frederick was born C1899......she would have been able to give accurate birth info