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Barbz

Barbz Report 28 Aug 2011 18:03

I have reason to believe this is my grandmothers father.
He was born in Dalton Lancashire in 1857 as seen on the 1901 census he was living in Dudley in Northumberland with his Wife Mary Edith who was born in Broughton On Furnace Lancashire in 1859, sons Joshua born in Dudley Northumberland in 1898 & John J born in Dalton Lancashire in 1891, daughters Elizabeth Jane born in Dudley Northumberland in 1895 & Sarah A born in Dudley Northumberland 1900, and in 1911 Annie born in Killingworth Northumberland in 1899 & my grandmother Isabella born in Killingworth Northumberland in 1904.

If anyone can shed some light on these people, it will be much appreciated.

Many thanks
Barbz

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 28 Aug 2011 18:07

Just putting so we can see clearly:

JENNINGS, Mo Head Widower M 52 1859 Stone Man In Civil Mine Lancashire Dalton in Furness VIEW
JENNINGS, Jno T Son Single M 19 1892 Coal Miner Putter And Hewer Lancashire Wigan VIEW
JENNINGS, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 15 1896 Nthland Killingworth VIEW
JENNINGS, Joshua Son Single M 13 1898 Pony Driver In Coal Mine Nthland Killingworth VIEW
JENNINGS, Annie Daughter F 12 1899 Pony School Coal Mine Nthland Killingworth VIEW
JENNINGS, Isabella Daughter F 6 1905 Nthland Killingworth VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
30773 Reference:
RG14PN30773 RG78PN1759 RD559 SD3 ED2 SN83

Registration District:
Tynemouth Sub District:
Longbenton Enumeration District:
2 Parish:
Weetslade

Address:
3 Hazlerigg St Dudley S O Northumberland County:
Northumberland

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 28 Aug 2011 18:09

Oops,this must be the one! What evidence have you got for Isabella's father's name - her marriage cert maybe?

JENNINGS, John Head Married M 40 1871 Draining For Urban Council Durham Gateshead VIEW
JENNINGS, Isabella Wife Married
17 years F 41 1870 Durham Gateshead VIEW
JENNINGS, Catharine Daughter Single F 16 1895 Packer In Drysaltry Store Durham Gateshead VIEW
JENNINGS, Elizabeth Daughter F 14 1897 School Durham Gateshead VIEW
JENNINGS, Mary Daughter F 12 1899 School Durham Gateshead VIEW
JENNINGS, Thomas Son M 10 1901 School Durham Gateshead VIEW
JENNINGS, Isabella Daughter F 8 1903 School Durham Gateshead VIEW
JENNINGS, Nellie Daughter F 5 1906 Durham Gateshead VIEW
JENNINGS, Norah Daughter F 2 1909 Durham Gateshead VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
30658 Reference:
RG14PN30658 RG78PN1756 RD558 SD6 ED2 SN118

Registration District:
Newcastle upon Tyne Sub District:
Byker Enumeration District:
2 Parish:
Byker

Address:
3 Bryson St Shieldfield Newcastle on Tyne County:
Northumberland

jan

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 28 Aug 2011 18:15

The only marriage I can see for John Jenniings & Mary Edith was 1881, Ulverston. Were they married that early? Do you have them in 1891?

Barbz

Barbz Report 28 Aug 2011 18:54

the addressess: 1901 7 Simmons Bldg, Weetslade and 1911 3 Hazlerigg St, Dudley, Northumberland census are family in question.

i cannot find a census in 1891 that show them both, i am questioning if john jennings was married prior to mary edith as john j jennings was born in 1891. but i could be wrong.

my grandmother isabella lived in Dudley, and as far back as i can recall she may have lived there all of her life.

Thanks
Barbz x

Barbz

Barbz Report 28 Aug 2011 18:56

From what i have seen on FreeBMD

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1888 (>99%)
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JENNINGS John Tynemouth 10b 279

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Marriages Dec 1889 (>99%)
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Jennings John William Hull 9d 519

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Marriages Mar 1891 (>99%)
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Jennings John Halifax 9a 617
Jennings John Thomas King's N. 6c 671

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Marriages Mar 1892 (>99%)
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JENNINGS John Merthyr T. 11a 828
JENNINGS John Henry Wigan 8c 185

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 28 Aug 2011 18:57

I'm a bit confused. Are you saying you know her father's name was John for certain? You say 'I have reason to believe this is my grandmothers father.' - why?
jan

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 28 Aug 2011 19:09

Is this John with wife Mary Edith living with inlaws in 1881

Name: John Jennings
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Dalton, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: West Broughton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: Low Wood Stile
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Iron Miner

Registration district: Ulverston
Sub-registration district: West Broughton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4283
Folio: 31
Page Number: 28
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Parkinson 74
Tamar Parkinson 73
John Jennings 22
Mary E. Jennings 18

If so then the marriage Margee foung is them

Name: John Jones Jennings
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1881
Registration district: Ulverston
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8e
Page Number: 967
others on same page

Thomas Wilson Bell Jan-Feb-Mar 1881 Ulverston Lancashire

>>>>>John Jones Jennings Jan-Feb-Mar 1881 Ulverston Lancashire

Elizabeth Johnson Jan-Feb-Mar 1881 Ulverston Lancashire

>>>>>>Mary Edith Parkinson Jan-Feb-Mar 1881 Ulverston Lancashire


Roy


Barbz

Barbz Report 28 Aug 2011 19:26

Well, John Jennings is the head of the family on the census, as above.
I should know more late next week as I am waiting for my grandma's birth certificate to come through the post.
I have been messed about by 3 registrars offices, they are each telling me that the certificate is with the other.
After what has taken almost 2 weeks of looking, my grandma was born in Killingworth, Northumberland, and Newcastle Registrars office should have this document, as advised by North Shields and Morpeth Registrars, it is not with them.

Thanks
Barbz x

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 28 Aug 2011 19:33

Hi Barbz - why not order her birth certificate on-line from General Register Office (GRO). Costs no more at £9.25 than getting it from the office.

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

This is the reference you need:


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Isabella Jennings
Name: Isabella Jennings
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1904
Registration district: Tynemouth
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 301

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 28 Aug 2011 19:36

why don't you get your certs from the GRO its very easy you can do it all online using the GRO info

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Roy

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 28 Aug 2011 19:43

These ar the only births I can see on FreeBMD that could be your grandma. She must be the Tynemouth one?

Births Jun 1904 (>99%)
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JENNINGS Isabella Tynemouth 10b 301
JENNINGS Isabella Gateshead 10a 1037
JENNINGS Isabella Southwark 1d 82

Barbz

Barbz Report 29 Aug 2011 09:22

My grandmother Isabella Jennings was born on 24 April 1904, married to Thomas Newton Bewick in Tynemouth 1923, and died in 1992 in Walkergate Hospital in Newcastle upon Tyne.

Hope this information helps.

Barbz x

Flick

Flick Report 29 Aug 2011 10:28

1901

Name: John Jennings
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary E Jennings
Gender: Male
Where born: Dalton, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Weetslade
Ecclesiastical parish: Killingworth St John
Town: Dudley
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England


Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: Longbenton
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 33
Piece: 4807
Folio: 93
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
John Jennings 44
Mary E Jennings 42 b. Broughton in Furness
John T Jennings 10
Elizabeth J Jennings 5
Joshua Jennings 3
Sarah A Jennings 1

Flick

Flick Report 29 Aug 2011 10:37

Deaths Sep 1907 (>99%)
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Jennings Mary Edith 46 Tynemouth 10b 137
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Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1891
JENNINGS John Thomas Wigan Wigan & Leigh WIG/180/78

Flick

Flick Report 29 Aug 2011 10:50

????????

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1856
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
JENNINGS John Wigan Wigan & Leigh JENNINGS WIG/45/415

This would fit with his birthplace as per 1881 and 1901

I think that stating in 1911 that his birth was in Dalton in Furness was a mistake.

Barbz

Barbz Report 29 Aug 2011 10:58

Dalton Lancashire is near Skelmersdale.

As per Wikipedia:
Skelmersdale is a town in West Lancashire, England. It lies on high-ground on the River Tawd, 6 miles (10 km) to the west of Wigan, 13 miles (21 km) to the northeast of Liverpool, 15 miles (24 km) south-southwest of Preston. As of 2006, Skelmersdale had a population of 38,813,[1] down from 41,000 in 2004. The town is known locally as Skem. The first recorded use of the name Skelmersdale appears in the Domesday Book of 1086. It was under the rule of Uctred as part of the hundred of West Derby.

The urbanisation and development of Skelmersdale largely coincided with the Industrial Revolution. Industrial scale coal mining began in the early 19th century and continued to expand during that century to give rise to Skelmersdale as an important colliery village.

Broughton On Furness is now in Cumbria, even though it states on the 1901 census that it is Lancashire. Maybe it was back then.

Barbz

Barbz Report 29 Aug 2011 11:02

I was also thinking of Wigan for searching his birth records as the nearest town is Dalton.

Thanks
Barbz x

Flick

Flick Report 29 Aug 2011 11:02

1891

Name: Mary E Jones
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Jones
Gender: Female
Where born: Broughton, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Wigan
Ecclesiastical parish: St Catherine
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England


Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Wigan
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3050
Folio: 127
Page Number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
John Jones 31 b. Dalton
Mary E Jones 30
Edith Jones 9 b. Dalton

Flick

Flick Report 29 Aug 2011 11:04

Dalton in Furness - and all of that area - was in Lancashire until 1974