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I am afraid , Nicky , that we can rule out your 1851 census -the Christianne shown there married John Greenslade and in 1881 her mother is with them Elizabeth Hawke aged 77 (1804) b St Mawgan

And according to the OPR for Cornwall John Carpenter Hawkey only married twice -first to Elizabeth Vivian (1843 and then to Patience 1869) which rules out the 1861 census posted

1841 has Elizabeth Vivian aged 24 (1817) with (presumed) parents Thomas and Margaret living in St Columb Minor
Elizabeth born 25/3/1816, baptised Sithney 14/4/1816 daughter of Thomas and Margaret
Thomas Vivian married Margaret ROWE 4/11/1810 Sithney

And Elizabeth Rowe hawkey died 1868 Mar Q St Columb aged 51 (1817) 5c 74 so John didnt waste much time in marrying again

Just checked on the Cornwall OPR and she was Elizabeth Rowe VIVIAN not Vivian Elizabeth Rowe -silly me!

The 1843 marriage looks a good bet given that daughter Elizabeth has Rowe as middle name but where is Elizabeth in the 1851 census quoted above?
Has anybody managed to find Vivian Elizabeth Rowe in 1841 or her death before 1869? I havent

???

Marriages Jun 1843 (>99%)
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HANKEY John Carpenter St. Columb 9 77
VIVIAN Elizabeth Rowe St Columb 9 77



Nicky

1861 ..if this is him could he have been married 3 times??


HAWKE, John Head Married M 47 1814 Blacksmith
St Columb Minor VIEW
HAWKE, Mary W Wife Married F 35 1826
St Columb Minor VIEW
HAWKE, Jamima Daughter F 12 1849
St Columb Minor VIEW
HAWKE, Henry Grandson M 5 1856
St Columb Minor VIEW
ROWE, Jane Lodger Unmarried F 25 1836 Formerly A Farm Servant
St Columb Minor VIEW
PRAWER, Elizabeth Daughter F 2 1859 ...image gives surname as Rowe.
St Columb Minor VIEW
ARTHUR, John Lodger Married M 40 1821
St Agnes
Cornwall VIEW
SAUTHEM, Charles Lodger Unmarried M 42 1819 Blacksmith
Launceston VIEW
ALLEN, John Lodger Unmarried M 47 1814 Musician
Italy VIEW
RICHARDS, Stephen Lodger Unmarried M 25 1836 Musician
Italy VIEW

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RG number:
RG09 Piece:
1543 Folio:
24 Page:
1

Registration District:
St Columb Sub District:
2 St Columb Enumeration District:
7 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Exeter

Civil Parish:
St Columb Minor Municipal Borough:
Address:
St Columb Minor County:
Cornwall




Nicky

1851...think this may be him...


HAWKE, Jno Head Widower M 40 1811 Blacksmith
Colan
Cornwall VIEW
HAWKE, Christianne Daughter Unmarried F 16 1835 Housekeeper
St Columb Minor
Cornwall VIEW
HAWKE, Frances Daughter Unmarried F 13 1838 Scholar
St Columb Minor
Cornwall VIEW
HAWKE, Patience Daughter F 10 1841 Scholar
St Columb Minor
Cornwall VIEW
HAWKE, Esther Ann Daughter F 8 1843 Scholar
St Columb Minor
Cornwall VIEW

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1905 Folio:
433 Page:
11

Registration District:
St Columb Sub District:
St Columb Major Enumeration District:
5B Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
St Columb Minor Municipal Borough:
Address:
Church Town, St Columb Minor County:
Cornwall




Nicky

"found his marriage" - excellent :-)

Thanks very much - I've found his marriage already!

Here is the site for the OPC for St Columb

http://www.cornwall-opc.org/Par_new/a_d/columb_major_st.php

All Cornish census 1841 to 1901 has been put online by volunteers.

Happy hunting :)

No I haven't tried the Cornish parish clerks - good idea. And I didn't know about the Cornish free census - I'll try that too. Many thanks. The trouble is there are so many Hawkeys in Cornwall it's like looking for a needle in a haystack, even with his unusual middle name! And yes, I did find the probate entry - I took advantage of the free week that Ancestry offered to look up probate records! Thanks.

Daughter Elizabeth's marriage:

Marriages Mar 1864 (>99%)
Hawkey Elizabeth Rowe Truro 5c 217
Tregoning John Williams Truro 5c 217

Her birth:

Births Dec 1845 (>99%)
Hawkey Elizabeth Rowe St Columb 9 58

the birth cert will give you her mother's maiden name.

John Hawke
England and Wales Census, 1861

birth: 1813 —Ludgvan, Cornwall
residence: 1861 —Ludgvan, Cornwall, England
census: 1861 —Ludgvan, Cornwall, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1861
name: John Hawke
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Male
age: 48
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Ludgvan, Cornwall
record type: Household
registration district: Penzance
sub-district: 1 Uny Lelant
civil parish: Ludgvan
county: Cornwall

If you have Ancestry then there is an entry for him on the National Probate Calender

found these Ha\wkey's - don't know if they are connected

Joanna Hawkey
England Marriages, 1538–1973

marriage: 01 Nov 1813 —St. Issey, Cornwall, England
spouse: William Pryor

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: William Pryor
bride's name: Joanna Hawkey
marriage date: 01 Nov 1813
marriage place: St. Issey, Cornwall, England
indexing project (batch) number: I04075-8
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1595570


Joanna Hawkey
England Marriages, 1538–1973

marriage: 17 Oct 1813 —Padstow, Cornwall, England
spouse: William Pryn

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: William Pryn
bride's name: Joanna Hawkey
marriage date: 17 Oct 1813
marriage place: Padstow, Cornwall, England
indexing project (batch) number: I02408-9
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1596121

Have you tried the (voluntary) online parish clerks for Cornwall? and the Cornish free census?

I am looking for John Carpenter Hawkey, born 1813 Tregony, Cornwall, blacksmith. I have found him in 1841, unmarried, living in Mawgan, and in 1871 in St Columb Minor with 2nd wife Patience, widowed daughter Elizabeth Tregoning 25 and her 2 children. He married Patience Hawke in St Columb in 1869. He died in 1872 in St Columb Minor. I can't find the family in 1851 or 1861, and haven't found his first marriage, although there are 3 possibles in St Columb in Dec 1843. I'd be very grateful if anyone can track him down in the missing years. Thanks.
Linda