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Why don't you get in touch with the pub and ask if the current landlord knows its history?

NO mention of the Dovecot on 1891 census

You didn't answer the question about William's address when he married..........................

Thankyou once agian for your replies

William Holloway Marriage 1888

William Holloway age 44 Widower Publican living @Lexington Father Henry Holloway Labourer
Sarah A Pinder age 28 Spinster Servent living @ Newark Father John Pinder Sadler

It’s not very clear
The story goes re The Dove Cote PH Laxton
Bertha Holloway 1894 had paper work of William Holloway Landlord living there
But I am waiting for thier reply

I am not related ,it’s a friend of mine,who comes through Arthur Holloway and Gertrude Fowler
Thankyou for all your help
Like it has been said we need a trip to The Dove Cote PH Laxton Nottinghamshire
From Olive Jean

He could have been at the address between censuses..............so there won't be any census info

I think you need to wait for FULL facts from the paperwork referred to

That’s what I think to ,
When it’s not your relations you need to be very sure of the facts
Thankyou all
Olive Jean

This is William Holloway in 1891. He is in Laxton and recorded as a Publican but the original doesn't show any addresses apart from the such places as the Vicarage and Schoolhouse.

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Westwood, Laxton, Southwell, Nottinghamshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Holloway Head Married Male 48 1843 Publican Worcestershire, England
Sarah Holloway Wife Married Female 31 1860 - Laxton, Nottinghamshire, England
George Holloway Son Single Male 15 1876 Farm labourer Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
William Holloway Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar Newark, Nottinghamshire, England
Arthur Holloway Son - Male 5 1886 Scholar Laxton, Nottinghamshire, England
Ernest Holloway Son - Male 2 1889 - Laxton, Nottinghamshire, England
Albert Holloway Son - Male 1 1890 - Laxton, Nottinghamshire, England


You could perhaps put the 1891 census up against the 1881/1901 and see if you can "walk" through the village. Maybe some people will still be living in the same place or the Dovecote came x number of dwellings after the Schoolhouse?

As I suggested originally and EricaH has repeated today - try contacting today's pub landlord and see if he holds any relevant documents.

Pleased to say my 2xGt Grandad's brother was landlord at the Trip to Jerusalem in Nottingham - picked up initially on census. The pub has a list up on the wall of previous landlords and have recently updated it to include years served. The relationship unfortunately didn't earn me a free drink!

The other place to try is the Records Office who had to grant licenses.

Greyghost suggests comparing censuses to see if it's possible to work out which household would be the Dove Cot Inn in 1891.

I tried that several days ago, and can't make even a guess.

In 1901, the Inn is household 41 in Laxton
The Schoolhouse is 21.
George Weatherall and family are at household 36.
John & Mary Cook are household 38.
John Bagshaw and his wife Mary are household 45.

The numbers aren't house numbers as in a street - all the households in the village are numbered from the first to the last (1 to 95, in 1901).

In 1891 there are 83 households in Laxton.
The Schoolhouse is household 25.
John & Mary Cook are household 40.
George Weatherall and family are household 41 (which does NOT mean he's at the Inn),
and John & Mary Bagshaw are 43.


It's impossible to work out from that where the Inn might be.

People in villages often moved around from one house to another in the same village. (And in the same street in a town, for that matter.)

Household 46 in 1891 consists of Thomas Gray, farmer and innkeeper, and his wife Martha and a farm servant Charles Taylor - but their household doesn't have a name, so it MIGHT be the Inn - but we can't say definitely.

Thankyou all once agian for all the effort you have put into , the journey of William Holloway born 1843;Halesowen Worcestershire
Olive Jean

Not sure if it’s been suggested before, but you could try looking at copies of local Kelly’s Directory - usually accessible in the Public Library, reference section

Thankyou for that information re Kelly’s Directory
I will ask when I next go into Hucknall Library
From Olive Jean

I thought I would let you all no
The latest on William Holloway born Halesowen Worcestershire 1843 married Sarah Pinder born 1859 Laxton

My friend and I went to The Dovecote Inn Laxton Nottinghamshire yesterday (Friday)
To talk to the Landlord re the Family History
But nothing turned up But we did take a photo of the Dovecote In
He was very interested in the Census 1911 to 1861 re Dovecote Inn ( Thankyou for all your effort on these) I had had them printed off
We also went to the local church , but it was locked
So the next thing is , sending for Bertha Holloway Birth Certificate
Then try and find out about Gertrude Alice Fowler born 1884 Lincoln’s
Thankyou once agian
Olive and her friend

What more do you need to know about Gertude Alice Fowler?


Her birth was posted by ErikaH on 27 July at 17:18. (Born 1885, not 1884, registered under her mother's surname Prince, and no father named).

Her mother married Thomas Fowler in 1888 - see 27 July at 17:18.
I posted the 1891 census for the family on 27 July at 19:09.

Gertrude A Fowler
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Gertrude A Fowler
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Thomas Fowler
Mother: Sarah A Fowler
Birth Place: Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: St Swithin
Ecclesiastical parish: St Swithin
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Registration District: Lincoln
Sub-registration District: Lincoln Home
ED, institution, or vessel: 41
Neighbors:
Piece: 3064
Folio: 14
Page Number: 19
Household Schedule Number: 139
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Fowler 36
Sarah A Fowler 38
Gertrude A Fowler 15
Ethel M Fowler 12
Peter Prince 68


Gertrude Alice Fowler
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Gertrude Alice Fowler
Age in 1911: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Lincoln, England
Civil Parish: Toton and Chilwell
Country: England
Street Address: Attenboro Nottingham
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Cook
Registration District Number: 434
Sub-registration District: Stapleford
ED, institution, or vessel: 02
Piece: 20823
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick Hill 59
Leontine Ellen Hill 52
Gertrude Alice Fowler 25
Edith Parkins 17

As you know, Gertrude married Arthur Holloway in 1913.

Her death was posted by ErikaH on 27 July at 16:51.

Thankyou for your reply

Yes I have the Marriges of
Thomas Fowler and Sarah Annie Prince

Gertrude Alice Barren Fowler and Arthur Holloway

Both from The General Register

Also
Birth of Thomas Fowler ( which you kindly supplied )
Sarah Annie Prince
Arthur Holloway
Gertrude Alice Barren Fowler only what you have kindly found
So I am going to apply to The General Register to see what is entered
On the birth Certificate

The Dovecote Inn Laxton Nottinghamshire Landlord has only been there for about 2 years so couldn’t help us
But was interested in the Census forms from 1911 to 1861
Also maybe the Dovecote Inn goes back to about 1839,as a farm / inn

We enjoyed our trip Laxton Nottinghamshire
Thankyou once agian
Olive

Try Nottingham Records Office - licenses had to be granted for the keeping of Public Houses

Just to say Happy New Year to you all

From olive
I’m not sure where to write this message ??
I just wonder about 1921 Census , will it be available on Genes Reunited Co Uk
Please
Or is it just for Find My Past members
Thankyou
Olive

The census won’t be available on Genes for some years. Even those with subs to FMP will have to make a payment to view.

It has been agreed that a couple of other public access points other than Kew will have free access. One is in Wales - you will need to ‘google’ yourself to find out the named places.

1921 will be pay-to-view ONLY for the foreseeable future. And ONLY on FMP

Found by Googling

How much will the census cost?
£2.50 for every record transcript and £3.50 for every original record image.

Except that, if you can get there you can view it for free at Kew ( the National Archives)
The Central Library in Manchester and the National Library of Wales.

I expect that one would have to book a visit under covid rules.

Handy for those who live in the vicinity

Thankyou all for your replies
Olive

Just to say hello and I wonder if it would be possible to find someone on an Electrole please
On the free Ancestery co uk library site you could find them by adding thier name etc, but from today the site has been cancelled
So you need to go to your local library
So I wonder if some one could look for me Please
Thankyou Olive