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spiderlegs

spiderlegs Report 9 Jul 2011 12:01

Hi ..im asking for my daughters girlfriend if any one can help ..that would be great ..

her grandfather is William Joseph Needham b abt 1830
we think in Sydney and he married Valerie olive wright in 1952...
the marriage is up in NSW bdm's
but i cant find a birth for him or a death as he died 1981 and bdm's stop at 1980..
she wants to find his parents and go back further as she thinks she might have aboriginal blood lines
hope some one can help ..cheers

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Jul 2011 12:26

Best to add Australia to your thread heading so our Australian cousins will see this when they come online .

Astra

Astra Report 9 Jul 2011 12:32

On the Australian Electoral Roll there seems to be a whole clutch of Needhams lving together with William Joseph and his wife but i can't locate birth registrations for any of them.

Erica

Erica Report 9 Jul 2011 12:36

This is taken from a tree on Ancestry so I don't know how authentic it is!

William Joseph Needham
Birth: 18 Jul 1931 - Sydney, Nsw (New South Wales), Australia
Death: 4 Nov 1991 - Arcadia, Nsw (New South Wales)
Marriage: 10 May 1952
F: Edward Allen Ahearn Needham

M: Ellen Eliza Hall

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 9 Jul 2011 13:06

your dates do not add up!!!

Gee

Gee Report 9 Jul 2011 13:08

Theres a birth certificate added to a tree on Ancestry with the details that Erica has posted

Father: Edward Allen Needham, occ Fettler age 48, married 12th April 1906 to Ellen Eliza Hall age 45 at the birth registration

Witnesses: Nurse Mortimer and Mrs Ingham

Tree owner: ronnisly added this on 4 Feb 2011

Erica

Erica Report 9 Jul 2011 13:15

I still think its the right tree as it says "Marriage to Living Wright 10 May 1952" and pictures of them!

Gee

Gee Report 9 Jul 2011 13:19

His parents marriage

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
about Edwin Needham
Name: Edwin Needham
Spouse Name: Ellen E Hall
Marriage Date: 1906
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1906
Registration Number: 3047

Gee

Gee Report 9 Jul 2011 13:24

Williams siblings

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Lillian B Needham
Name: Lillian B Needham
Birth Date: 1909
Father's name: Edwin Needham
Mother's name: Ellen E
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1909
Registration Place: Redfern, New South Wales
Registration Number: 7924

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Edwin A Needham
Name: Edwin A Needham
Birth Date: 1907
Father's name: Edward A Needham
Mother's name: Ellen E
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1907
Registration Place: Redfern, New South Wales
Registration Number: 28606

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Emily A Needham
Name: Emily A Needham
Birth Date: 1906
Father's name: Edwin A Needham
Mother's name: Ellen E
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1906
Registration Place: Redfern, New South Wales
Registration Number: 28214

Gee

Gee Report 9 Jul 2011 13:26

And the death of Williams father

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Edward A Needham
Name: Edward A Needham
Death Date: 1931
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's name: Edward A
Mother's name: Augusta A
Registration Year: 1931
Registration Place: Randwick, New South Wales
Registration Number: 17644

Gee

Gee Report 9 Jul 2011 13:31

Williams uncles/aunt

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Laurenzo M Needham
Name: Laurenzo M Needham
Birth Date: 1885
Father's name: Edward A Needham
Mother's name: Augusta A
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1885
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Registration Number: 3216

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Ellen L M Needham
Name: Ellen L M Needham
Birth Date: 1887
Father's name: Edward A Needham
Mother's name: Augusta
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1887
Registration Place: Redfern, New South Wales
Registration Number: 11319

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Ernest I Needham
Name: Ernest I Needham
[Ernest J Needham]
[Ernest John Needham]
Birth Date: 1889
Father's name: Edward Needham
Mother's name: Augusta
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1889
Registration Place: Redfern, New South Wales
Registration Number: 8456

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about William F Needham
Name: William F Needham
Birth Date: 1891
Father's name: Edward Needham
Mother's name: Augusta
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1891
Registration Place: Waterloo, New South Wales
Registration Number: 36642

Gee

Gee Report 9 Jul 2011 13:32

His grandparents marriage

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
about Edwin A Needham
Name: Edwin A Needham
Spouse Name: Augusta A Ahearn
Marriage Date: 1885
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1885
Registration Number: 546

Gee

Gee Report 9 Jul 2011 13:37

HIs grandmothers birth and her parents

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Augusta A Aherne
Name: Augusta A Aherne
Birth Date: 1850
Father's name: Mathias Aherne
Mother's name: Ellen
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1850
Registration Place: Parramatta, New South Wales
Volume Number: V18501591 145

and death

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Augusta A Needham
Name: Augusta A Needham
Death Date: 1921
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's name: Matthias
Mother's name: Ellen
Registration Year: 1921
Registration Place: Redfern, New South Wales
Registration Number: 477

Gee

Gee Report 9 Jul 2011 13:40

And this looks like his grandfathers death

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Edwin A Needham
Name: Edwin A Needham
Death Date: 1915
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's name: John
Mother's name: Susan
Registration Year: 1915
Registration Place: Redfern, New South Wales
Registration Number: 4848

Gee

Gee Report 9 Jul 2011 13:53

Wonder if this is his Great Grandparents marrige

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
about Mathias Ahern
Name: Mathias Ahern
Spouse Name: Ellen Hughes
Marriage Date: 1842
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Liverpool, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1842
Volume Number: V

and g grandfathers birth?

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Mathias A Hearn
Name: Mathias A Hearn
[Matthias Ahearn]
Birth Date: 1823
Father's name: Murtagh A Hearn
Mother's name: Mary
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1823
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Volume Number: V1823435 125

and death

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Matthias Ahearn
Name: Matthias Ahearn
Death Date: 1876
Death Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1876
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Registration Number: 2006

Gee

Gee Report 9 Jul 2011 14:02

G Grandmother

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Ellen Hughes
Name: Ellen Hughes
Birth Date: 1826
Father's name: Robert Hughes
Mother's name: Ann
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1826
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Volume Number: V1826750 127

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Ellen Ahearne
Name: Ellen Ahearne
Death Date: 1902
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's name: Hughes
Registration Year: 1902
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Registration Number: 8088

Gee

Gee Report 9 Jul 2011 14:08

Seems they came from Ireland

ew South Wales, Australia,Convict Registers of Conditional and Absolute Pardons 1791-1867
about Ahan Murtagh
Name: Ahan Murtagh
[Murtagh Ahern]
[Murtagh Aherne]
[Murtagh Ahearn]
[Murty Ahearn]
[Murty Aherne]
Pardon Date: 8 Oct 1810
Vessel Name: Atlas
Year of Arrival: 1802
Trial Location: Limerick, County Limerick, Ireland
Date of Conviction: 1800
Place of Conviction: Limerick, County Limerick, Ireland
Record Type: Absolute

Australian Convict Index, 1788-1868
about Murtagh Ahern
Name: Murtagh Ahern
Year: 1802
Trial Place: Limerick
State: Nsw
Ship: Atlas 1

his marriage

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
about Murty O Herne
Name: Murty O Herne
Spouse Name: Mary Abby
Marriage Date: 1815
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Parramatta, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1815
Volume Number: V A

Gee

Gee Report 9 Jul 2011 14:31

Grandfather to William

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Edwin Allan Needham
Name: Edwin Allan Needham
Birth Date: 22 Dec 1864
Father's name: John Needham
Mother's name: Susan Goode
Birth Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1865
Registration Place: Queensland
Page Number: 10866
Registration Number: 001361

His parents marriage

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
about John Needham
Name: John Needham
Spouse Name: Susan Goode
Marriage Place: Victoria
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Year: 1863
Registration Number: 1141

spiderlegs

spiderlegs Report 10 Jul 2011 06:36

sorry abt that Shirley i keep forgetting that i should do that...
thank you ladies i just rang her my daughters girlfriend Ashleigh...and told her that her ancestry is Irish...she laugh her head off...i asked why the laugh ..said mum thinks that we a abbo...
but we are Irish.....sooo funny ....this is a 21 year old ....now going to start her tree
what a fantastic journey she will have going back ....and now she has the best opportunities because of you ladies ....YOU ARE ALL THE BEST ......BLESS U ALL.... :-D

Gee

Gee Report 10 Jul 2011 07:08

I wish her luck with the Irish side, records are like hens teeth!

Glad I could help

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