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AnnCardiff
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28 Jun 2011 22:58 |
so now I'm finding them!!! duh!!!!
Ann Paggett England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 residence: Shropshire, England parents: Benjmin Paggett, Sarah record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 name: Ann Paggett gender: Female baptism/christening date: 28 Apr 1811 baptism/christening place: WOMBRIDGE,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND father's name: Benjmin Paggett mother's name: Sarah indexing project (batch) number: C06490-1 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 510685
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AnnCardiff
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28 Jun 2011 22:57 |
William Pagett England and Wales Census, 1861 birth: 1801 —Wombridge, Shropshire residence: 1861 —Wrockwardine Wood, Shropshire, England census: 1861 —Wrockwardine Wood, Shropshire, England record title: England and Wales Census, 1861 name: William Pagett event: Census event date: 1861 gender: Male age: 60 relationship to head of household: Head birthplace: Wombridge, Shropshire record type: Household registration district: Wellington sub-district: 3 Wombridge ecclesiastical parish: Wrockwardine Wood civil parish: Wrockwardine Wood county: Shropshire
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Gavin
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28 Jun 2011 22:39 |
Ann, Ozi and Andy, Thanks for all your help, my Benjamin was Richard Bagger Pagetts father, I also lucked upon a William and a Benjamin born in 1800 and 1803 respectiveley which I think are of the same parents, should have known that this Benjamin would be an issue, My own Benjamin who is 5 seems to be following on from his namesake.
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Andrew
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28 Jun 2011 22:30 |
Hi Ann
The childrens birts are in Shropshire
Results for: Pagett, British Isles Father: Benjamin Exact Spelling: Off Batch Number: C064901 [refine search] [Print] Prepare selected records for download
International Genealogical Index / British Isles - 5 Find more British records by searching on the updated FamilySearch site. Click here... Select records to download - (50 maximum) 1. SARAH PAGGETT - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 06 MAY 1804 Wombridge, Shropshire, England 2. ANN PAGGETT - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 28 APR 1811 Wombridge, Shropshire, England 3. RICHARD BAGGER PAGGETT - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 18 JAN 1807 Wombridge, Shropshire, England 4. WILLIAM HENRY PAGGETT - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 29 JUN 1800 Wombridge, Shropshire, England 5. BENJAMIN PAGGET - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 23 JAN 1803 Wombridge, Shropshire, England
This area is much closer to the Enville/Kinver births that you have found and was the centre industrial revolution at the time.
Andy
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Ozibird
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28 Jun 2011 22:29 |
In that case the Benjamin found in the censuses may be a more distant relative.
Ozi
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Gavin
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28 Jun 2011 22:27 |
Thanks Ozi, not come accross this link yet, after the birth of Benjamin, the Pagets seem to have had a mass exodus from the lichfield area and my line seemed to head for the Telford area, could be needing the additions when I hit my next generation back. Cheers Gav
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AnnCardiff
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28 Jun 2011 22:22 |
well I've just been through a shedload of births in Staffs for twenty years after the marriage date and can find no children for Benjamin
interestingly, referring to the name "Bagger", interspersed with Pagetts were Baggots and Piggots!!!
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Gavin
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28 Jun 2011 22:19 |
WOW Ann, thanks for all the information, I feel like you already have the answers and you are dangling me carrots so I can have the fun of mking all the connections myself :-D. Not entireley where I should be looking thouh as I seem to have this mental sign pointing me to Bridgnorth and lichfield, someone onc e pointed out to me that prior to 1800, people rarely moved from the areas of their birth and most of the previous generations could be found there also. Think I might be blinkering myself to new evidence though ...
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28 Jun 2011 22:12 |
Gavin, the census AGG found was 1881. Therefore not old enough to be your Benjamin. Remote possibility he is a son.
This is the same Ben in 1871 & 1861.
1871 England Census Name: Benjamin Paggett Age: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Kinver, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Kinver County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: Wolverhampton Sub-registration district: Kinfare Street Address: The Comber
Occupation: Labourer at Iron Works
Piece: 2928 Folio: 58 Page Number: 26 Household Members: Name Age Benjamin Paggett 60 Rosanna Chambers 11 - granddaughter Ann Thatcher 39 - no relationship recorded; washerwoman Mercy Harris 69 - lodger
1861 England Census Name: Benjamin Pagett Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Hannah Pagett Gender: Male Where born: Kinfare, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Kinfare Ecclesiastical parish: Kinfare County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address: The Forest
Occupation: Labourer at Iron Works
Registration district: Wolverhampton Sub-registration district: Kinfare Piece: 1985 Folio: 49 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Benjamin Pagett 51 Hannah Pagett 50 George Pagett 17 - son Rosanna Chambers 1 - grandaughter Anne Thatcher 28 - wife's daughter
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Gavin
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28 Jun 2011 22:09 |
Thanks Andy, I believe they all moved onto Womridge where the children olf Banjamin And Sarah were all born so that could explain there absence in the future census entries.
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Gavin
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28 Jun 2011 22:09 |
Thanks Andy, I believe they all moved onto Womridge where the children olf Banjamin And Sarah were all born so that could explain there absence in the future census entries.
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AnnCardiff
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28 Jun 2011 22:05 |
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Benjamin Pagett England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 residence: Enville, Stafford, England parents: Samuel Pagett, Ann record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 name: Benjamin Pagett gender: Male baptism/christening date: 08 Aug 1782 baptism/christening place: Enville, Stafford, England father's name: Samuel Pagett mother's name: Ann indexing project (batch) number: C16630-1 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1470946
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AnnCardiff
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28 Jun 2011 22:00 |
The Staffordshire Record Society Publications Fourth Series The Struggle for the Lichfield Interest 1747-1768 pp. 115-135. Kettle; Ann ... A List of Families in the Archdeaconry of Stafford 1532-3 pp.1-216. Kettle; Ann J. Fourth Series Volume IX ... The Turnpike Network of Staffordshire, 1700-1840: An Introduction and a ... Paget, June 1642 pp. 127-156. Sutton; John ...
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Andrew
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28 Jun 2011 22:00 |
Checked 1841 census and no Pagetts in Lichfield area (I live locally) The records in the Enville/Kinver area are a good 20-25 miles away.
Andy
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AnnCardiff
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28 Jun 2011 21:59 |
Collections for a history of Staffordshire : Staffordshire ... Capitular Muniments at Lichfield -- v. 7 (1886). ... The Gifford Family ; Muster Roll for Cuttlestone and Pirehill Hundred 1539 -- v. .... Additions to the List ; The Turnpike Network of Staffordshire, 1700-1840. ... The Defection of William , Fifth Baron Paget, June 1642 ; Quaker Poor Relief in Staffordshire to the ...
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28 Jun 2011 21:58 |
Cannock - Manors and economic history | A History of the ... 29) By 1818 letters were conveyed to Lichfield three times a week and to Walsall five .... 1700 with two gables facing the road. It formerly had mullioned and .... time Cannock and Rugeley descended in the Paget family with the barony, ...
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28 Jun 2011 21:57 |
Penkridge Parliamentary History, 1603 - 1700 Too old to fight in Civil War, surrendered at Lichfield, July 1646. Died 1660. 1640 The Short Parliament ... Sir Edward Litteton, born 1598, in early life a strong Parliamentarian. .... 1698 – 1700. Henry Paget (T). Edward Bagot (T) ...
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28 Jun 2011 21:55 |
The Paget Family Thomas, Lord Paget (d. 1590), was frequently resident in Burton, especially from c. 1573. (fn. 5) With him came all the trappings of a great noble household: visits of musicians from Leicester, Stone, and Uttoxeter; (fn. 6) of the choirmen from Lichfield cathedral; (fn. 7) and of players from other households, including that of Sir George Hastings. (fn. 8) A Twelfth Night masque was performed in 1580. (fn. 9) Paget's presence in Burton tightened his grip on the town, especially its religious life, and as an ardent recusant he sought to promote Roman Catholicism, employing recusants as his household servants and even providing mass wafers rather than ordinary white bread for the celebration of communion in the parish church. He patronized William Byrd, the church-papist composer, who stayed in Burton in 1580; Byrd's room over the gatehouse then had a pair of virginals. (fn. 10) Paget also had a private choir at Burton which, though it provided secular entertainment, probably also sang mass for the household. (fn. 11) In the early 1580s Paget's household at Burton became entangled in the plotting around Mary, Queen of Scots, then imprisoned in various locations in Yorkshire and Derbyshire. (fn. 12) After involvement in the Throckmorton Plot Paget fled abroad in 1583; he was attainted for treason and died at Brussels, and his English estates, including Burton, were forfeited to the Crown. In 1586, while Mary was imprisoned at Chartley in Staffordshire, the government, seeking evidence of her complicity in plotting against Queen Elizabeth, placed a brewer, William Nicholson, in the former abbey precinct in Burton. He gained Mary's trust, conveying letters to and from her hidden in beer barrels, but revealed them to her keeper, so implicating her in Anthony Babington's plot to assassinate Elizabeth and place Mary on the English throne. (fn. 13) Babington, a minor Derbyshire gentleman and an ardent Roman Catholic, had been known to Lord Paget and had stayed at least one night c. 1583 in a Burton inn kept by one of Paget's servants. (fn. 14) Ensnared by Nicholson's evidence, Mary was taken from Chartley to her trial and execution at Fotheringhay castle (Northants.), spending the night of 21 September 1586 at Burton on the way. (fn. 15)
From: 'Burton-upon-Trent: General history', A History of the County of Stafford: Volume 9: Burton-upon-Trent (2003), pp. 5-20. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=12328 Date accessed: 28 June 2011. Burton-upon-Trent - General history | British ... The Dissolution of Burton Abbey The Paget Family The Civil War and its ...
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Gavin
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28 Jun 2011 21:50 |
Thanks Ann, could this be from the census as there was child called Ann born in 1811, would make Ben the right age with this in mind. Also, as an aside, have you ever came across a middle or christion name of bagger ?? one other confusing issue of this tree..
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Gavin
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AnnCardiff
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28 Jun 2011 21:42 |
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Benjamin PAGETT Head W Male 72 Kinver, Stafford, England Agricul Labourer Ann PAGETT Daur U Female 47 Enville, Stafford, England Housekeeper Dom
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling High Street Census Place Kinver, Stafford, England Family History Library Film 1341668 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2790 / 46 Page Number 9
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