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David
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17 Jul 2011 20:25 |
Hi All Thank you for your help. and to Maureen a special thanks for your help in the beginning.
Any further help I will be back
Dave xx Maureen xxxxxxxxx
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FannyByGaslight
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17 Jul 2011 18:10 |
YOU stuck for words Mo????
Off to mark that on my calender.. :-D
But you gave the lead with the 1861 census,so take a bow MaureeninNY...
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MaureeninNY
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17 Jul 2011 17:50 |
Heaven.
I can't make any remarks.
Mo
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17 Jul 2011 17:21 |
1901 for her with daughter Elizabeth who seems to have had as much luck with hubbys as her mother??
BETHELL, Elizabeth Head Widow F 48 1853 Laundress Langley Buckinghamshire BETHELL, Dorothy A Daughter F 10 1891 Marylebone London BETHELL, Lydia D Daughter F 10 1891 Marylebone London LEADER, Elizabeth Mother Widow F 71 1830 No Occupation Slough Buckinghamshire Registration District: Eton Sub District: Eton Enumeration District: 17 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Andrew Civil Parish: Wyrardisbury Municipal Borough: Address: Next The Post Office, High Street, Wyrardisbury County:
Marriages Jun 1875 Shepherd George Eton 3a 610 Spicer Elizabeth Eton 3a 610
Marriages Jun 1890 BETHELL George Leonard Marylebone 1a 1157 Shepherd Elizabeth Marylebone 1a 1157
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Dea
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17 Jul 2011 17:15 |
Wow Fans !! - VERY well done !!!!!!!!!!!
At least I can stop looking now, I was still a mile away !
Dea Xxx
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FannyByGaslight
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17 Jul 2011 17:06 |
I think that may have solved the Elizabeth Spicer to Leader for the Mother-in-law on 1891??? I really dont think that is her on the 1881 you have Dea..I looked at that first thing and it just didnt sit right. But of course I have been known to be wrong on occasion?
I think that she wore her hubbys out rather quickly did our Elizabeth Spicer c1830
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17 Jul 2011 16:56 |
Just to say - I am looking too, but haven't found anything useful yet ......dratt!!!
Looks like Elizabeth in 1881 - not yet re-married??
1881 England Census about Elizabeth Spicer Name: Elizabeth Spicer Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relation: Housekeeper Gender: Female Where born: George Green Langley, Buckinghamshire, England Civil parish: Upton Cum Chalvey County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street Address: 6 Somerset Place Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Housekeeper Registration district: Eton Sub-registration district: Eton ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1460 Folio: 86 Page Number: 35 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Arnold 51 William Arnold 17 Elizabeth Spicer 47 Housekeeper
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1460; Folio: 86; Page: 35; GSU roll: 1341354.
I will keep looking.......
Dea x
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17 Jul 2011 16:15 |
1871 Sarah not there.
SPICER, William Head M 48 1823 Buckinghamshire SPICER, Elizabeth Wife F 41 1830 Buckinghamshire SPICER, Susan Daughter F 9 1862 Buckinghamshire SPICER, Minnie Daughter F 4 1867 Buckinghamshire SPICER, John Son M 0 1871 Buckinghamshire Registration District: Eton Sub District:>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Eton Enumeration District: Civil Parish: Upton cum Chalvey Municipal Borough: Address: Cottage, Upton Cum Chalvey, Slough County: Buckinghamshire
Just putting this here to start thinking and give me a lead for my thinking.
Hmmm?? Marriages Jun 1877 Spicer Sarah Eton 3a 589 Taylor Joseph Eton 3a 589
1881 and John Spicer born 1870 is in a school.
SPICER, John Boarder Single M 10 1871 Scholar Slow Buckinghamshire
The death of William Spicer?
Deaths Dec 1874 SPICER William 52 Eton 3a 296
Possible remarriages for Elizabeth?
Marriages Jun 1875 ASHTON Mary Eton 3a 610 Hawkins William Eton 3a 610 Shepherd George Eton 3a 610 Spicer Elizabeth Eton 3a 610
Marriages Sep 1878 Maskell Mark Eton 3a 673 SPICER Elizabeth Eton 3a 673 SPICKE Elizabeth Eton 3a 673
I will be back in a bit..........Feeding time is nigh
The 1875 marriage I say would look like Elizabeth Junior.
groom's name: George Shepherd bride's name: Elizabeth Spicer marriage date: 16 May 1875 marriage place: Upton, Buckingham, England groom's father's name: Thomas Shepherd bride's father's name: William Spicer
1881 for the Maskells. MASKOLE, Mark Head Married M 69 1812 Baker Cookham Berkshire MASKOLE, Elizabeth Wife Married F 51 1830 Upton.Cum.Chalvey Buckinghamshire Registration District: Eton Sub District: Burnham Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Stoke-Poges Municipal Borough: Address: ?, Stoke-Poges County: Buckinghamshire
Marks death? Deaths Jun 1884 Maskill Mark 73 Windsor 2c 263
And Elizabeth remarries again to become mrs Leader..
Marriages Sep 1885 Leader William Windsor 2c 751 Maskell Elizabeth Windsor 2c 751
And a poss death for William Leader?
Deaths Mar 1888 LEADER William 50 Kingston 2a 231
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David
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17 Jul 2011 09:23 |
Hi Maureen Sorry I haven't replied earlier but had things to do. Sarah was a Spicer (I think) but what happened to her I can't find out, she just seems to have dissappeared. The other strange thing is that on the 1891 census Joseph has his Mother in law living with him and the surname is LEADER which would lead you to think that Sarah maiden name was Leader would it not or am I completly on the wrong track. Would like your views on the subject. Regards Dave xxx
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MaureeninNY
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16 Jul 2011 15:16 |
You're very welcome,Dave!! Just wish I (we) could crack the maiden name of Sarah for you.
Best, Maureen
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David
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16 Jul 2011 11:51 |
Hi MaureeninNY
Thank you so much for the info. You are right with the marriage to my Granddad James William Hastings. The info you have supplied now allows me to trace this side of the tree. Once again spelling was the problem but with your magical help problem solved. Thank you so so so much.....
Dave xxxxxxxxxx
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MaureeninNY
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16 Jul 2011 08:03 |
Don't ask me! HELP! (Spicer on image,I think. Don't the details for Sarah and Elizabeth match ??). 1861 census transcription details for: Buckingham Garden, Upton, Slough
RG number: RG09 Piece: 853 Folio: 26 Page: 46 Reg. District: Eton Sub District: 2 Eton Parish: Upton Enum. District: 9 H Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Buckingham Garden, Upton, Slough County: Buckinghamshire
SPICK, William Head Married M 37 1824 Groom Langley Buckinghamshire SPICK, Elizabeth Wife Married F 31 1830 Laundress Slough Buckinghamshire SPICK, Elizbeth Daughter F 8 1853 Scholar Langley Buckinghamshire SPICK, Ann Daughter F 7 1854 Scholar Slough SPICK, Lydia Daughter F 5 1856 Scholar Chalvey SPICK, Sarah Daughter F 3 1858 Scholar Cippenham
Could be me as well!!!
Maureen
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MaureeninNY
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16 Jul 2011 03:55 |
For ref:
1881 census transcription details for: Church Street, Staines RG number: RG11 Piece: 1328 Folio: 152 Page: 21 Reg. District: Staines Sub District: Staines Parish: Staines Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Church Street, Staines County: Middlesex TAYLOR, Joseph Head Married M 32 1849 Coachman Staines Middlesex TAYLOR, Sarah Wife Married F 23 1858 Coachman Wife Cippenham Buckinghamshire TAYLOR, Ann Sarah Daughter Single F 3 1878 Windsor Berkshire TAYLOR, Florence K Daughter Single F 1 1880 Staines Middlesex DIBLEY, James A Lodger Head Single M 35 1846 Gardener Staines Middlesex
1901 census transcription details for: Church Street, Staines RG number: RG13 Piece: 1175 Folio: 19 Page: 30 Reg. District: Staines Sub District: Staines Parish: Staines Enum. District: 8 Ecclesiastical District: St Mary City/Municipal Borough: Address: Church Street, Staines County: Middlesex TAYLOR, Joseph Head Married M 53 1848 Groom Domestic Staines Middlesex TAYLOR, Florence K Daughter Single F 21 1880 Housemaid (Domestic) Staines Middlesex TAYLOR, Gladys L Daughter F 14 1887 Staines Middlesex TAYLOR, Lizzie S Daughter F 12 1889 Staines Middlesex
1911 census transcription details for: 42 Church Street Staines RG14PN6751 RG78PN336 RD126 SD2 ED8 SN113
Reg. District: Staines Sub District: Staines Parish: Staines Enum. District: 8 Address: 42 Church Street Staines County: Middlesex
TAYLOR, Joseph Head Widow M 63 1848 Gardener Domestic Staines Middlesex TAYLOR, Gladys Daughter Single F 24 1887
Says he was married 26 years . 5 children. All living.
Wonder what happened to Sarah?
Maureen
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16 Jul 2011 03:04 |
Usual transcription error:
1891 census transcription details for: Church Street, Staines
RG number: RG12 Piece: 1016 Folio: 140 Page: 20
Reg. District: Staines Sub District: Staines Parish: Staines Enum. District: 8 Ecclesiastical District: St Mary City/Municipal Borough: Address: Church Street, Staines County: Middlesex
SAYLOR, Joseph Head Married M 41 1850 Groom Domestic Staines Middlesex SAYLOR, Amy Sarah Daughter F 13 1878 Windsor Berkshire SAYLOR, Florence Kate Daughter F 11 1880 Staines Middlesex SAYLOR, Emily Minnie Daughter F 9 1882 Staines Middlesex SAYLOR, Gladys Lizzie Daughter F 4 1887 Staines Middlesex SAYLOR, Elizabeth Susan Daughter F 2 1889 Staines Middlesex LEADER, Elizabeth Mother In Law Widow F 61 1830 Slough Buckinghamshire
Maureen
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MaureeninNY
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16 Jul 2011 02:41 |
Who did she marry?
This one??? London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Emily Minnie Taylor Name: Emily Minnie Taylor Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 Spouse Name: James William Hastings Spouse Age: 26 Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 14 Oct 1905 Parish: St Mary, Staines County: Surrey Father Name: Joseph Taylor Spouse Father Name: James Hastings
Maureen
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Choccy
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15 Jul 2011 22:29 |
1901
TEDDAR, Peter Head Married M 50 1851 Greengrocer Chobham Surrey VIEW TEDDAR, Sarah J Wife Married F 45 1856 Pensnett Staffordshire VIEW TEDDAR, Albert Son Single M 14 1887 Laborer Builders Feltham Middlesex VIEW TEDDAR, Frederic Son Single M 12 1889 Feltham Middlesex VIEW TEDDAR, Ernest Son Single M 11 1890 Feltham Middlesex VIEW TEDDAR, Matthew Son Single M 9 1892 Feltham Middlesex VIEW TEDDAR, Mark Son Single M 7 1894 Feltham Middlesex VIEW TEDDAR, Luke Son Single M 5 1896 Feltham Middlesex VIEW TEDDAR, Peter Son Single M 3 1898 Ashford Middlesex VIEW >>>>TAYLOR, Emily Sister-In-Law Single F 19 1882 Laundress Feltham Middlesex VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG13 Piece: 1171 Folio: 90 Page: 23 Registration District: Staines Sub District: Sunbury Enumeration District: 4 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Dunstans Civil Parish: Feltham Municipal Borough: Address: High Street, Feltham, Village County: Middlesex
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15 Jul 2011 22:21 |
Thanks Choccy
Still not convinced this is the same Emily Taylor mainly because there is another Emily Taylor born in 1882 in Feltham. Shall keep looking and as a last resort send for the birth cert for parents name.
Thanks once again. Dave
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Choccy
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15 Jul 2011 22:11 |
think it says 'daughter by her husband'
1891
TEDDER, Peter Head Married M 40 1851 Railway Plate Layer Chobham Surrey VIEW TEDDER, Sarah J Wife Married F 35 1856 Pensnett Staffordshire VIEW >>>TAYLOR, Emily Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar Feltham Middlesex VIEW TEDDER, Albert Son M 4 1887 Feltham Middlesex VIEW TEDDER, Fredk Son M 3 1888 Feltham Middlesex VIEW TEDDER, Ernest Son M 1 1890 Feltham Middlesex VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG12 Piece: 1014 Folio: 134 Page: 23 Registration District: Staines Sub District: Sunbury Enumeration District: 8 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Dunstans Civil Parish: Feltham Municipal Borough: Address: Bedfont Road, Feltham County: Middlesex
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Marriages Dec 1889 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PANTLING Elizabeth Staines 3a 34 >>>>>>Taylor Jane Staines 3a 34 >>>>>>Tedder Peter Staines 3a 34 Webb Arthur Staines 3a 34
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David
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15 Jul 2011 22:00 |
Hi All I'm looking for my Grandmother in the 1891 census. Her name is Emily Minnie Taylor born 1882 in Staines Middlesex. I can find her in the 1901 census living in Staines in service to a Mr Seddon. In the 1891 census I have a Emily Taylor with the Tedder family but it says born in Feltham Middlesex, however on the census form it says something in the relationship to head of household which I can't read. Can anybody help with a different site look up. Thanks for your help.
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10 Jul 2011 09:43 |
Hi Maureen I'm so sorry for not thanking you and Maddie with your help on the ELGAR, HELGAR (and the many more spellings) family. Just to let you know that I have now most of the info on this side of the family. Nellie was my mother-in-law's Mother. Sadley my mother-in-law Joyce died early in June 2011 and you never seem to ask the questions you need when people are around to answer them. However thank you once again and also for the information you have supplied with regards to the Etches. This is my son-in-law's family I'm researching. If I need any further help (as Arnie says) I shall return. Thanks Dave xxxx
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