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there are two possible births ........

Births Jun 1839
Hindle Rosanna Haslingden 21 464
Births Dec 1840
Hindle Rose Hannah Haslingden 21 380


the 'other' one is with her mother ( grandmother ? ) Alice in 1841 but no Rose Hannah

in 1851 and 1861 there are the two
Rosanna is a lodger with a Varley couple
Rose Hannah is with her parents John and Jane in Burnley Lands

so this is her in 1841

Name: Hannah Hindle
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Whalley
Hundred: Blackburn (Lower Division)
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Haslingden
Sub-registration district: Haslingden

Henry Hindle 50
Mary Hindle 50
Henry Hindle 20
Thomas Hindle 20
James Hindle 15
John Hindle 30 <<<
Jane Hindle 25 <<<
Prissalg Hindle 3
Hannah Hindle 2 <<<
Mary Hindle 4 MO

Thanks. I think you are right about Hannah being a second wife. I see that all of the children of James Long from Samuel down through Seth are the sons of Elizabeth. Also that there is a marriage between James Long and Elizabeth Barratt on 13 Dec 1824 in Otley. Later there is a marriage between a James Long and Hannah Hobson on 18 Jan 1837, a year before son James was born in 1837/1838 in Otley.

I have not been able to find the records that confirms Elizabeth Long died prior to his marriage to Hannah in 1837 or that James Long born Dec 1837 /1838 is the son of Hannah. You were certainly on the right track

that works perfectly , the two James Long marriages :-)

It was so common ... a widowed father just could not raise a brood of young children without a wife

But no Hindle Slater connection !

William - can you delete your latest posting on Seth please before people start duplicating research for you

thanks

I shall continue to search for the death of Elizabeth Barratt to confirm and also confirm that Hannah Hobson was the mother of the last Long child, James Long.

But you are right about the lack of Hindle / Slater connection. That is still baffling.

Bit of a long shot.....but I'm just wondering if

Rosehannah married Robert Francis Ingle and when Rosehannah married Seth it was phonetically written down as 'Hindle'

>>>Robert Francis Ingle Jan-Feb-Mar 1860 Otley Yorkshire West Riding
Eli Pratt Jan-Feb-Mar 1860 Otley Yorkshire West Riding
>>>Rosehannah Slater Jan-Feb-Mar 1860 Otley Yorkshire West Riding
Ann Smith Jan-Feb-Mar 1860 Otley Yorkshire West Riding

Note they married in Otley

Rosehannah & Robert in the 1861 census?

Name: Rose Ann Ingle
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert Ingle
Gender: Female
Where born: Burnley, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Burley
Ecclesiastical parish: Burley St Mary
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Otley
Sub-registration district: Otley
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 35
Piece: 3213
Folio: 8
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Ingle 23
Rose Ann Ingle 20 b Burnley Lancs
John Ingle 9 MO b Burley Yorks not Burnley Lancs

that is interesting ...... could this be her ........

........ no it wasn' t her so I took it out :-)

Births Dec 1840
Slater Rosanna Burnley 21 182 <<<
not
Births Dec 1842
Slayter Rosanna Clitheroe 21 331

I'm wondering whether this could be her birth....many of my ancestors couldn't read or write so names were written down as they were heard and as they couldn't read or write they were none the wiser!

Name: Rosanna Slater
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1840
Registration district: Burnley
Inferred County: Lancashire, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 21
Page: 182

the pesron who added the 'alternate info' to the 1891 census seems to know something about Rose Hannah, have you tried to contact that person ?

Londonbelle ...

1841 England Census about Rosannah Slater
Name: Rosannah Slater
Age: 8 MO
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Whalley
Hundred: Blackburn (Higher Division)
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Burnley
Sub-registration district: Burnley

John Slater 35
Martha Slater 30
Nancy Slater 9
Betty Slater 7
Martha Slater 5
Mary Slater 3
Rosannah Slater 8 MO


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Possible census for 1841?

Name: Rosannah Slater
Age: 8 MO
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Whalley
Hundred: Blackburn (Higher Division)
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Burnley
Sub-registration district: Burnley
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 508
Book: 3
Folio: 38
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
John Slater 35
Martha Slater 30
Nancy Slater 9
Betty Slater 7
Martha Slater 5
Mary Slater 3
Rosannah Slater 8 MO


EDIT

Snap chrissiex

Looks as though John Francis died

Deaths Dec 1865 (>99%)
Ingle John Francis Otley 9a 103

1841 census looks to be the same family as that chrissiex found for Benjamin Slater in 1871 census

yes it is ! I was going back and trying to find that one in the censuses and there it is right on the other page where I put it :-)

well then .... this looks very promising

Apologies for going silent to one and all. A little bit of hospitalisation claimed my attention.

Have uncovered link between Hindle and Slater. Seth Long married Rose Hannah Hindle on 4 Nov 1871. Seth was a bachelor and Rose Hannah was a widow at time of marriage. Her father's name was John Slater and mother Martha.

Keen now to track details of her father John Slater and her mother Martha (unsure of maiden name). There are a few John and Marthas. Once I am sure of Martha's maiden name I can extract all of Rose Hannah's (Rosannah's) siblings with some confidence.

With regard to Seth's parents James Long & Elizabeth Barrett, I have tracked their marriage to 13/12/1824 in Otley. Elizabeth dies at some point and James remarries a Hannah Hobson on 18 Jan 1837 also in Otley. Have not been able to track death of Elizabeth as yet.

Thanks to everyone that has been of help.

Possible marriage for John & Martha?

Name: Martha Coultis
Marriage Date: 3 Mar 1829
Parish: Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral)
Spouse's Name: John Slater occ Overlooker


Note in the 1841 census John Slater's occupation was given as Worsted Overlooker

I suspect this marriage to Martha Coultis is the correct one as the career of John Slater fits and the church and curate (Robert Heap) consistent with eldest child and sister of Rosannah (Rose Hannah) Nancy Slater. Would be good to track Martha and determine her earlier history and get a certificate linked to Rosannah that shows her mother's maiden name. That might all be wishful thinking.

Rosannah was located on 1841 Census aged 8 months and seems to disappear until 1871 Census when she turns up married to Seth Long. Can't find evidence of her earlier marriage but there are so many mispellings of her name it is hard to track.

Thanks for marriage information.