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An earlier thread re Spiess/Milder etc

https://www.genesreunited.co.nz/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1155706?d=desc

Thank youb Nyx. Havent been on Genes for years and dont find it easy to use.
Think Eliizabeth was married to Caspard Spiess before Moses and supposedly left children in Kleve dobt know why. My g grandmother was Johanna Helena.

Pamela if your query is not directly connected to Patricia's it might be best to start a seperate thread giving some more details, dates and names :-)

EDIT as Patricia may not be looking for replies now, click on her name to send a message.

for ref

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Litchfield Street, St Anne, Westminster, London & Middlesex, England

Moses Pacey Head - Male 39 1832 - Hampshire, England
Elizabeth Pacey Wife - Female 34 1837 - Germany Transcription
Henry Pacey Son - Male 11 1860 - Middlesex, England
Charles Pacey Son - Male 5 1866 - Middlesex, England
Frank Pacey Son - Male 3 1868 - Middlesex, England
Helena Pacey Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Middlesex, England
Henry Milder Boarder - Male 3 1868 - Middlesex, England

MILDER, HENRY - Order
GRO Reference: 1868 M Quarter in PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 56

Does anyone know about Elizabeth Pacey/Spiess nee Milder's children that were left behind in Kleve.

Thank you everyone for your help & time. Problem sorted, Annie is the COUSIN not the sister of my Grandmother. Pat

Looks like she married Mr Bridges;

1891 England Census
about Annie Bridges Name: Annie Bridges
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles Bridges
Gender: Female
Where born: Kingston, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Kingston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: Kingston On Thames
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Kingston
Sub-registration district: Kingston
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 610
Folio: 85
Page Number: 52
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Bridges 26
Annie Bridges 24
Ethel Bridges 2
Charles Bridges 6/12

Looks like her marriage??

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1889 (>99%)
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Bridges Charles George W Kingston 2a 417
Hawley James Kingston 2a 417
Pacey Annie Maria Kingston 2a 417
Rayner Miriam Bright Kingston 2a 417

Births Mar 1867
Pacey Annie Maria Kingston 2a 231

Mmmm....

Name: Marie Pacey
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Spouse Name: William May ...Warehouseman
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 03 Jun 1895
Parish: Christ Church
County: Surrey
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Moses Pacey ...Deceased...Brewers Stoker
Spouse Father Name: William Charles May ...Compositer
Resdence: 94 Blackfriars Road
Witnesses: Francis Edward Pacey. Phobe Bailey

Chris

baptism of moses
Moses Pacey

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


residence: Hampshire, England
parents: William Pacey, Hannah

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Moses Pacey
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 29 Oct 1831
baptism/christening place: EAST WORLDHAM,HAMPSHIRE,ENGLAND
father's name: William Pacey
mother's name: Hannah
indexing project (batch) number: P01457-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 814228

and aarons

Aaron Pacey

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


residence: Hampshire, England
parents: William Pacey, Hannah

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Aaron Pacey
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 17 Oct 1829
baptism/christening place: EAST WORLDHAM,HAMPSHIRE,ENGLAND
father's name: William Pacey
mother's name: Hannah
indexing project (batch) number: P01457-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 814228

looks like they were brothers

maddie

Still no Annie

1881 at 19, Mercer St, St Martin In The Fields
PACEY, Moses Head Married M 43 1838 Brewers Labourer Alton Hampshire
PACEY, Elizabeth Wife Married F 44 1837 Brewers WifClve Germany
SPICERS, Henry Son Single M 21 1860 Fitters Labourer (Engineer) St Giles
SPICERS, Charlie Son Single M 15 1866 Tobacconist Porter St Giles Middlesex
SPICERS, Johanna Daughter Single F 13 1868 Cap Makers Assistant (Hat)St Giles
PACEY, Francis Son Single M 13 1868 Rulers Assistant (Printer) St Giles Middlesex
PACEY, Mary Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar St Giles Middlesex
FAULKER, Mary Aunt Widow F 42 1839 Cook Claie Germany

No Annie Maria

1871 at Litchfield St, St Anne, Westminster
PACEY, Moses Head M 39 1832 Hampshire
PACEY, Elizabeth Wife F 34 1837 Germany
PACEY, Henry Son M 11 1860 Middlesex
PACEY, Charles Son M 5 1866 Middlesex
PACEY, Frank Son M 3 1868 Middlesex
PACEY, Helena Daughter F 2 1869 Middlesex
MILDER, Henry Boarder M 3 1868 Middlesex

his 2nd marraigeBMD Search result details

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Name: PACEY, Moses
Registration District: Help St. James Westminster
County: London
Year of Registration: 1869
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 1A
Page No: Help 545
MarriageFinder™: Moses Pacey married one of the following people Help


FORTESCUE, Hannah view record


SPIERS, Elizabeth view record

This looks like Moses in 1871:
1871 England Census
Moses Pacey
Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Pacey
Gender: Male Where born: Alton, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: St Anne Soho Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: London Country: England
Registration district: Westminster Sub-registration district: St Anne Soho
ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Household schedule number: 197 Piece: 146 Folio: 68 Page Number: 31

Moses Pacey 39
Elizabeth Pacey 24
Henry Pacey 11
Charles Pacey 5
Frank Pacey 3
Helena Pacey 2
Henry Milder 3

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 146; Folio: 68; Page: 31; GSU roll: 823294.

This looks like her in 1871:
1871 England Census
Ann M Pacey
Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Aaron Pacey Mother's name: Ann Pacey
Gender: Female
Where born: Kingston, Surrey, England Civil parish: Kingston On Thames
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Kingston County/Island: Surrey Country: England Registration district: Kingston Sub-registration district: Kingston
ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Household schedule number: 99 Piece: 859 Folio: 121 Page Number: 17

Aaron Pacey 41
Ann Pacey 41
Walter W Pacey 15
Thomas Pacey 13
Mary Pacey 12
Alfred Pacey 9
Ann M Pacey 4
Frank Pacey 2
Emily Pacey 5 Months
Arthur Pacey 6

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 859; Folio: 121; Page: 17; GSU roll: 827763.

an ann marie but different parents
1871 England Census about Ann M Pacey
Name: Ann M Pacey
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Aaron Pacey
Mother's name: Ann Pacey
Gender: Female
Where born: Kingston, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Kingston On Thames
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Kingston
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Kingston
Sub-registration district: Kingston
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 99
Piece: 859
Folio: 121
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Aaron Pacey 41
Ann Pacey 41
Walter W Pacey 15
Thomas Pacey 13
Mary Pacey 12
Alfred Pacey 9
Ann M Pacey 4
Frank Pacey 2
Emily Pacey 5 Months
Arthur Pacey 6

Have you looked for her in member's trees on here?

b.1867 Kingston Surrey. Does anyone have any information on her as she may be a sister of my Grandmother. Their father was Moses Pacey b.1832 who was first married to Phoebe Harress 1852, then to Elizabeth Spiess 1869.
Thank you, Pat