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Thanks for that, am looking at the moment and have a couple of choices, how do you guys know which ones to go for?

Isn't Frank Bessie's son (not brother)?

There is this marriage in Devon but not sure if it is him:-

Name: EBDON, Frank
Registration District: Newton Abbot
County: Devon
Year of Registration: 1935
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Doble
Volume No: 5B
Page No: 361

Name: DOBLE, Gladys I
Registration District: Newton Abbot
County: Devon
Year of Registration: 1935
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Ebdon
Volume No: 5B
Page No: 361

Kath. x

Hi Sam, you could have a look on FreeBMD http://www.freebmd.org.uk

Can i be really cheeky and ask for some more help please,
In the 1911 census Bessie has a brother Frank Ebdon born 1907 is there any chance of being abl to find a marriage for this chap and any children that he might of had.

Thank You
Sam

While being away on holiday to cornwall last week we passed by Ottery St Mary Devon where my grandfather came from, it was only when we got to where we were staying that my mother let slip who my grandfathers father was but as he was not born until 1918 i suppose i will have to wait until the next load of census are due out, although this was someone from where my great grandmother worked as a servant.

Sorry im reading it wrong, i thought it meant to the next name down - hence being Eliza

Sam x

Bessie is the step-daughter to John Shaddick - not Eliza. Frederick and Bessie seem to be Eliza's children from before her marriage to John Shaddick.

Kath. x

Flick
On the 1871 census you kindly put up for me it states that Bessis is a step daughter to Eliza,
But then below that is a marriage for 1864 with Eliza's maiden name being Dibble so could this not be an older sister maybe?????

Just a thought sorry

Marieceleste, the only reason i did start a new thread was that i had nudge the other one i was using but not getting a response, im sorry.

Flick i have just read all your messages and have answer my question before having to ask, so thank you for your information.

And i would just like to thank everyone else for all their help and time i am most grateful, you guys work so fast x

sam

Marriages Dec 1864 (>99%)
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DIBBLE Eliza Barnstaple 5b 817
Shaddick John Barnstaple 5b 817

1871

Name: Bessie Dibble
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Stepdaughter
Mother's name: Eliza Shaddick
Gender: Female
Where born: Barnstaple, Devon, England
Civil parish: Barnstaple
Town: Barnstaple
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: Barnstable
Sub-registration district: Barnstable
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 112
Piece: 2183
Folio: 14
Page Number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
John Shaddick 40
Eliza Shaddick 34
John Shaddick 19
Thomas Shaddick 15
Maria Shaddick 10
Frederick Dibble 10
Bessie Dibble 8

1881

Charles W. VINIA Head M Male 38 (F), Italy Professor Of Dancing (Teacher)
Mary Teresa VINIA Wife M Female 37 Croydon Professors Wife
Elizth.J.M. VINIA Daug U Female 4 Exeter, Devon, England
Margaret MASON Visitor U Female 69 Totnes Teacher Of Dancing
Laura BALL Visitor U Female 33 Exeter, Devon, England Annuitant
Bessie S. DIBBLE Serv U Female 18 Barnstable General Serv


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Source Information:
Dwelling 13 Dixs Field
Census Place Exeter St Sidwell, Devon, England
Family History Library Film 1341518
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2149 / 10


MMN is not on the index until after 1911.............but it will be on the birth cert

It doesn't mean that there will be no mother's maiden name on the certificate. Just that before 1911 mother's maiden name was not added to the index.

Kath. x

Thanks for that one Glitter Baby,

Oh if that one you have found Kathleen is right then that can be a problem without a mothers maiden name, was this a common thing??


Sam

Thanks for that one Glitter Baby,

Oh if that one you have found Kathleen is right then that can be a problem without a mothers maiden name, was this a common thing??


Sam

1871 ?

1871 England Census
about John H Elsdon
Name: John H Elsdon
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's name: Samuel Elsdon
Mother's name: Harriet Elsdon
Gender: Male
Where born: Withycombe Raleigh, Devon, England
Civil parish: Withycombe Raleigh
Town: Withycombe
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: St Thomas
Sub-registration district: Exmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 89
Piece: 2048
Folio: 13
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Elsdon 52
Harriet Elsdon 52
Mark Elsdon 24
W Thomas Elsdon 17
John H Elsdon 11


Edit: it is Ebdon on image; brother Mark is bricklayer.

John in 1881:

1881 England Census
about John Eldon
Name: John Eldon
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Apprentice
Gender: Male
Where born: Withycombe Rawleigh, Devon, England

Civil parish: Exeter St Mary Steps
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address: 24 Commercial Road
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Bricklayer

Registration district: Exeter
Sub-registration district: Exeter Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2154
Folio: 42
Page Number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
William H. Skinner 49
Mary A. Skinner 49
Martha L. Skinner 21
Henry J. Skinner 20
Elizabeth M. Skinner 14
Kate E. Skinner 10
Alice B. Skinner 7
Sidney T. Skinner 5
John Eldon 20

There is this marriage for consideration?


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Marriages Dec 1884 (>99%)
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APLIN Noah Axminster 5b 26
***Ebdon Francis Axminster 5b 26
Gosling Sarah Jane Axminster 5b 26
***Skinner Elizabeth Axminster 5b 26

Dea x

Poss marriage???

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about John Ebdon
Name: John Ebdon
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1882
Registration district: Exeter
Inferred County: Devonshire
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 203



******Bessie Dibble Apr-May-Jun 1882 Exeter Devonshire

Agnes Buckingham Dunn Apr-May-Jun 1882 Exeter Devonshire

****John Ebdon Apr-May-Jun 1882 Exeter Devonshire

Births Sep 1889 (>99%)
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Ebdon Samuel Mark Exeter 5b 75