Profile | Posted by | Options | Post Date |
|
Densirl
|
Report
|
3 Jul 2011 21:58 |
BOWERS John brn 1882 and William brn1881 ,toJohn Bowers and Mary Chislett .John brn 1844 and Mary brn 1859? trying to find parents of John brn 1844 ,Yeovil ,somerset Please can anyone help me .Thankyou
|
|
Densirl
|
Report
|
10 Jun 2011 20:16 |
Thankyou every one
|
|
GillianMac
|
Report
|
10 Jun 2011 13:56 |
1841 Yeovil Peter Bower 35 Hawker Sarah 30 Mary 5 Peter 3
Peter Bower was baptised 6/4/1806 St Marys Portsea (son of Peter Bower and Mary Toop) and married Sarah Harrison 14/7/1834 Bridport Dorset
The elder Peter and Mary Toop were married 25/1/1803 St Marys Portsea
The elder Peter was baptised 22/3/1772 son of John St Marys Portsea The elder Peter died 1839 Jan Q Portsea The younger Peter died 1867 Apr Q Yeovil
|
|
MarieCeleste
|
Report
|
9 Jun 2011 20:55 |
She seems to like her middle name better - 1881:
BOWER, John Head Married M 37 1844 General Lab Yeovil Somerset BOWER, Jane Wife Married F 20 1861 Yeovil Somerset BOWER, William Son Single M 0 1881 Yeovil Somerset Registration District: Yeovil Sub District: Yeovil Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Yeovil Municipal Borough:
Address: Gear Knap Jennings Row, Yeovil County: Somersetshire
|
|
MarieCeleste
|
Report
|
9 Jun 2011 20:52 |
So you'll need this marriage certificate:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1879 Bower John Yeovil 5c 587 Chislett Mary Jane Yeovil 5c 587
|
|
GillianMac
|
Report
|
9 Jun 2011 20:52 |
1851 Yeovil Peter Bower 45 Pauper b Portsea Hants Sarah 44 wife Glover b Staffordshire Shelfet Peter 13 Cordwainer Charles 9 John 6 all b Yeovil
|
|
Densirl
|
Report
|
9 Jun 2011 20:12 |
Bower/Chislett .Trying to find info on John Bowers brn 1844 married Mary Jane Chislett brn 1860 ,somerset .Please can anyone help ,sudden turn in my tree .Thankyou
|
|
Densirl
|
Report
|
7 Jun 2011 22:21 |
Hi Thankyou every one who has helped me ,great work tempest ,have got so far now ,now trying to find out more on the bower side ,as i thought my grandfather was a long now i find out he is a bower ,So trying to find ou tinfo on John Bowers brn 1844 m Mary Jane Chislett BRN 1860 ,Thankyou :-)
|
|
Densirl
|
Report
|
6 Jun 2011 10:10 |
By gosh Tempest you have been busy ,thankyou very much off out now but will have to study it in depth later ,thankyou once again :-D
|
|
tempest
|
Report
|
5 Jun 2011 22:31 |
of course there is always the possibility that Susan was actually Hannah's illigitimate daughter, there's 20 years between the two of them, maybe Mary Jane and Susan were half sisters???????
here's another cert to order if you want to crack the case!
BMD Search result details Civil Registration event: Birth
Name: DAY, Susan Registration District: Yeovil County: Somerset Year of Registration: 1847 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3 Volume No: Help 10 Page No: Help 361
|
|
tempest
|
Report
|
5 Jun 2011 22:22 |
aha
BMD Search result details Civil Registration event: Marriage
Name: DAY, Hannah Registration District: Yeovil County: Somerset Year of Registration: 1848 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Volume No: 10 Page No: 964
MarriageFinderâ„¢: Hannah Day married one of the following people
JESTY, Felix TOMPKINS, Henry Cary CHISSLETT, Emanuel HAINS, Abraham WILTON, Sarah HUNT, Emily HURLSTONE, Harriett
|
|
tempest
|
Report
|
5 Jun 2011 21:25 |
Went looking for Susan Long whose maiden name may have been Day if my hunch is correct, you need the marriage cert to confirm
1851 census Address: Goar Knap, Yeovil Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born DAY, John Head Married M 60 1791 Ag Lab Yeovil Somerset DAY, Elizabeth Wife F 47 1804 Yeovil Somerset DAY, Benjamin Son Unmarried M 20 1831 Masons Lab Yeovil Somerset DAY, George Son M 13 1838 Farm Yeovil Somerset DAY, Susan Daughter F 4 1847 Yeovil Somerset
same family on 1841 census
Address: Thorne, Thorn Coffin Name Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born DAY, John M 39 1802 Somerset DAY, Elizabeth F 40 1801 Somerset DAY, Hannah F 14 1827 Somerset DAY, William M 13 1828 Somerset DAY, Benjamin M 10 1831 Somerset DAY, Job M 7 1834 Somerset DAY, George M 3 1838 Somerset
I wonder if Hannah Day married Emmanuel Chislett and then went on to have Mary Jane
I propose the theory that William was brought up by Susan Long nee Day who was the youngest sister of his maternal grandmother, but as said earlier, birth and marriage certs are needed to confirm the parentage of those concerned
|
|
tempest
|
Report
|
5 Jun 2011 20:47 |
you're welcome
I did think at first that Susan may be the childless aunt, and the censuses seem to suggest that it is possible.
is the 1911 census with William James and Rose Hannah Long posted by Lindsey earlier ringing bells with you?
I cannot find James Day and Susan Long nee Day together in earlier census' to prove if they were siblings, as this was my original hunch.
to be sure of whether the people are who I/ we think they are you'd be best ordering the marriage certs given above from the GRO, these will have addresses, former names, fathers names on which will help us.
I think I have found James Day on earlier census' with a wife and children, living in New Prospect Place, Yeovil
Is it possible that the Emily Chislett visiting Susan and William Long in 1881 is the same person as Emelina Chislett (sister of Mary Jane Bower /Day/ Chislett) on the 1871 census with Emanuel as their father? 1871 census
Address: Goar Knap, Yeovil Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born CHISLETT, Emmanuel Head M 48 1823 Somerset CHISLETT, Hannah Wife F 48 1823 Somerset CHISLETT, Charles Son M 18 1853 Somerset CHISLETT, George Son M 13 1858 Somerset CHISLETT, Jane Daughter F 11 1860 Somerset CHISLETT, Albert Son M 8 1863 Somerset CHISLETT, Emelina Daughter F 4 1867 Somerset CHISLETT, Minnie Daughter F 0 1871 Somerset CHISLETT, Samuel Brother M 37 1834 Somerset
I hope I am making sense here
|
|
Densirl
|
Report
|
5 Jun 2011 13:43 |
Thankyou every one ,yes Mary jane is william bower longs mother ,so i take it she remarried James Day ,so does this mean that the childless aunt who bought up william was a sister of James ?or am i putting 2x2 together and making 3 : :-S
|
|
tempest
|
Report
|
4 Jun 2011 02:13 |
1891 census - address transcription Address: 28, New Prospect Place, Yeovil Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation, Disability Where Born
CHISLETT, Emanuel Head Married M 68 1823 General Labourer Yeovil Somersetshire CHISLETT, Hannah Wife Married F 66 1825 Yeovil Somersetshire BOWERS, Mary Jane Daughter Widow F 32 1859 Glover Yeovil Somersetshire BOWERS, John Albert Grandson Single M 9 1882 Scholar Yeovil Somersetshire CHISLETT, John Grandson Single M 15 1876 Glover Yeovil Somersetshire
|
|
tempest
|
Report
|
4 Jun 2011 02:08 |
1901 census Address: 27, New Prospect Place, Yeovil Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation, Disability Where Born
BOWERS, Jane Head Widow F 40 1861 Washerwoman Yeovil Somersetshire BOWERS, Lissy Anna Visitor F 6 1895 Holloway London
|
|
tempest
|
Report
|
4 Jun 2011 01:42 |
hang on there's this marriage which might be worth investigating
MarriageFinderâ„¢: Mary Jane Bower married James Day Name: BOWER, Mary Jane Registration District: Yeovil County: Somerset Year of Registration: 1908 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Volume No: 5C Page No: 880 Name: DAY, James Registration District: Yeovil County: Somerset Year of Registration: 1908 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Volume No: 5C Page No: 880 it seems to tally with this couple on 1911 census
it says they had been married 3 years
Address: 27 New Prospect Place Yeovil Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born DAY, James Head Married M 58 1853 House Builders Labourer Someret Yeovil DAY, Mary Jane Wife Married F 50 1861 Someret Yeovil PAYNE, Charles Boarder Single M 29 1882 General Contractors Labourer Somerset Bridgwater
Could Mary Jane/ Jane be William Bower Long's mother?
|
|
tempest
|
Report
|
4 Jun 2011 01:24 |
is this William Bower (Long) and his parents, with his mother using her middle name?
1881 census Address: Gear Knap Jennings Row, Yeovil Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born BOWER, John Head Married M 37 1844 General Lab Yeovil Somerset BOWER, Jane Wife Married F 20 1861 Yeovil Somerset BOWER, William Son Single M 0 1881 Yeovil Somerset PARKER, Emily Boarder Single F 23 1858 Glover Mudford Lock Somerset PARKER, Kate Daughter Single F 3 1878 Bristol Gloucestershire HODDER, Rhoda Married F 34 1847 Wells Somerset HODDER, William Son Single M 3 1878 Yeovil Somerset HODDER, Eliza A Daughter Single F 1 1880 Yeovil Somerset
|
|
Lindsey*
|
Report
|
4 Jun 2011 01:19 |
I still dont get where Bower comes into it ?
|
|
tempest
|
Report
|
4 Jun 2011 01:06 |
possibility re marriage, but not sure it helps
BMD Search result details Civil Registration event: Marriage
Name: LONG, William Registration District: Yeovil County: Somerset Year of Registration: 1874 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Volume No: 5C Page No: 738
MarriageFinderâ„¢: William Long married one of the following people DAY, Susan TUTCHINGS, Mary Ann HAYWARD, William Henry
|