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2 Jun 2011 20:18 |
You're welcome, I thought that at first until I ordered some of my lots wills etc, they can be quite revealing, or set you up with more surprises and questions.
Sometimes the executors are beneficiaries as well, but not always, or executors might be left a nominal sum "as an acknowledgment for the trouble of executing my will" to quote my 2 x Great Uncle.
From my experiences, I would say Edwin Herbert Clutterbuck was Alice Lawn Shepherd's Solicitor who sought probate.
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Vera
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2 Jun 2011 20:12 |
Thanks for that Tempest, I thought they were the beneficiaries as well.
Regards Vera
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2 Jun 2011 20:09 |
the names given the calendar of wills are the executors, not the beneficiaries.
it would be best to order the wills and see what they actually say
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2 Jun 2011 20:03 |
I agree it does seem strange,.
Regards Vera
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2 Jun 2011 19:41 |
Thank you Vera once again. Strange that Alice didnt leave her money to Bessie or grandchildren isnt it?
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2 Jun 2011 07:42 |
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WALTON, William A Head Married M 31 1870 Licensed Victualler Wednesbury Staffordshire VIEW WALTON, Bessie M Wife Married F 26 1875 Smethwick Staffordshire VIEW WALTON, Winifred A Daughter Single F 2 1899 Wednesbury Staffordshire VIEW WALTON, Thomas A Son Single M 1 1900 Wednesbury Staffordshire VIEW WALTON, Leslie P Son Single M 0 (3 MOS) 1901 Wednesbury Staffordshire VIEW MASON, Margaret A Servant Single F 23 1878 Barmaid Beoxwich Staffordshire VIEW LAIRD, Martha Servant Widow F 56 1845 Domestic (Cook) Hereford VIEW GRIPTON, Florence Servant Single F 26 1875 Domestic (Nurse) Small Heath Warwickshire VIEW CHALONER, Emily Servant Single F 21 1880 Domestic (Housemaid) Beoxwich Staffordshire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG13 Piece: 2727 Folio: 83 Page: 32 Registration District: West Bromwich Sub District: Wednesbury Enumeration District: 10 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Bartholomew Civil Parish: Wednesbury Municipal Borough: Address: George & Dragon, Wednesbury County: Staffordshire 1911
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WALTON, William Archibald Head Married M 41 1870 Commercial Traveller Staffs Wednesbury VIEW WALTON, Bessie Mary Wife Married 13 years F 36 1875 Staffs Handsworth VIEW WALTON, Thomas Archibald Son M 11 1900 School Staffs Wednesbury VIEW WALTON, Leslie Powell Son M 10 1901 School Staffs Wednesbury VIEW WALTON, Constance Bessie Daughter F 7 1904 School Warwickshire Shirley VIEW WALTON, Marjorie Kathleen Daughter F 5 1906 School Warwickshire Shirley VIEW WALTON, Rosa Mary Daughter F 0 (4 MONTHS) 1911 Worcestershire Moseley VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 18691 Reference: RG14PN18691 RG78PN1115 RD392 SD1 ED53 SN275 Registration District: Solihull Sub District: Solihull Enumeration District: 53 Parish: Yardley Address: 175 College Road Moseley B'ham County: Warwickshire Regards Vera
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2 Jun 2011 07:27 |
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WHITFIELD, John Head Married M 49 1862 Farmer Shropshire West Fellon VIEW WHITFIELD, Katherine Wife Married 27 years F 51 1860 Shropshire Oswestry VIEW WHITFIELD, Leonard Allen Son Single M 16 1895 Helping On Farm Shropshire Oswestry VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 16193 Reference: RG14PN16193 RG78PN1002 RD351 SD4 ED3 SN46 Registration District: Ellesmere Sub District: Baschurch Enumeration District: 3 Parish: Great Ness Address: Kinton Grove Nesscliff Shrewsbury County: Shropshire
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2 Jun 2011 07:23 |
Hi, 1891
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WHITFIELD, John Head Married M 30 1861 Butcher West Felton Shropshire VIEW WHITFIELD, Katherine Wife Married F 34 1857 Oswestry Shropshire VIEW WHITFIELD, John Bennion Son Single M 6 1885 Scholar Oswestry Shropshire VIEW WHITFIELD, Edward Harda Son Single M 4 1887 Oswestry Shropshire VIEW WHITFIELD, Reginald Bennion Son M 3 1888 Oswestry Shropshire VIEW WHITFIELD, Ernest Bennion Son M 0 (10M) 1891 Oswestry Shropshire VIEW HUGHES, Kate Servant Single F 15 1876 General Servant Domestic Ruyton of the Eleven Towns Shropshire VIEW WILDE, George Slaughterman Single M 20 1871 Slaughterman Oswestry Shropshire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG12 Piece: 2116 Folio: 142 Page: 30 Registration District: Oswestry Sub District: Oswestry Enumeration District: 12 Ecclesiastical Parish: Oswestry Parish Church Civil Parish: Oswestry Municipal Borough: Oswestry Address: 29, Butchers Shop, Willow Street, Oswestry County: Shropshire
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WHITFIELD, John Head Married M 40 1861 Inn Keeper West Felton Salop VIEW WHITFIELD, Katherine Wife Married F 44 1857 Oswestry Salop VIEW WHITFIELD, John B Son Single M 16 1885 Oswestry Salop VIEW WHITFIELD, Harold E Son Single M 14 1887 Oswestry Salop VIEW WHITFIELD, Reginald B Son Single M 13 1888 Oswestry Salop VIEW WHITFIELD, Ernest B Son Single M 11 1890 Oswestry Salop VIEW WHITFIELD, Tom C Son Single M 8 1893 Oswestry Salop VIEW WHITFIELD, Leonard A Son Single M 6 1895 Oswestry Salop VIEW WHITFIELD, Alice M K Daughter F 0 (5 MOS) 1901 West Felton Salop VIEW DODSFORTH, Harriet Servant Single F 22 1879 General Serv Domestic Middle Salop VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG13 Piece: 2542 Folio: 81 Page: 1 Registration District: Oswestry Sub District: Knockin Enumeration District: 8 Ecclesiastical Parish: West Felton Civil Parish: West Felton Municipal Borough: Address: Punch Bowl Inn, West Felton County: Shropshire Regards Vera
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2 Jun 2011 04:31 |
I just worked it out that Alice sister Katherine married John Whitfield. They had a son John Bennion Whitfield so it looks like Alice left her money to her nephew. I wonder if her only child Bessie Mary Lawn Shepherd died before her?. Bessie married William Walton.
I dont have full access to the 1901 census . Can someone look for the Whitfield family. Katherine born 1857 Oswestry
They are living West Felton Shropshire and Katherines husband is an Inn Keeper
They seem to be the only Whitfield family in the area so Im assuming all the children are theirs but I want it confirmed
Thank you
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1 Jun 2011 13:40 |
I was just wondering about Alice's Will in 1930 where she left just over £268, yet she had owned what must have been a 'massive' Hotel as shown on 1911 Census.
This would only equate to around £12000 today ??
A couple of years later, John Francis left 'today's equivalent' of around £673,000.........
Mmmmmm, strange ??
I wonder if it worked it's way over somehow, or did 'her' money just disappear ???
Dea x
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1 Jun 2011 13:03 |
That surely was a lot of money back then
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Vera
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1 Jun 2011 08:52 |
Sorry....should read
£13784 18s 4d that was a fortune then.
Regards Vera
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31 May 2011 20:29 |
Thank you Vera. Can you work out how much John Francis Shepherd left because that is an odd figure
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31 May 2011 11:48 |
John Francis Shepherd Probate Date: 18 Mar 1933 Death Date: 18 Dec 1932 Death Place: Darlington, Durham, England Registry: London addressox ...8, Polam-Road Darlington Probate London to John Lawrence Shepherd merchant Elsie Mary Shepherd Spinster Ursula Margaret Cox ( wife of George Herbert Cox)
Effects 313784 18s 4d
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31 May 2011 11:35 |
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SHEPHERD, John Francis Head Widower M 62 1849 Wholesale Fruit Merchant Yorkshire Raskelt VIEW SHEPHERD, Mary Lawrence Sister Single F 59 1852 Yorkshire Raskelt VIEW SHEPHERD, Elsie Mary Daughter Single F 17 1894 Durham Darlington VIEW SHEPHERD, Ursula Margarey Daughter Single F 16 1895 School Durham Darlington VIEW SHEPHERD, John Lawrence Son M 14 1897 School Durham Darlington VIEW SHEPHERD, Doris Ellen Daughter F 13 1898 School Durham Darlington VIEW CLANTON, Martha Servant F 17 1894 General Servant Domestic Yorkshire Ulleskelt VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 29536 Reference: RG14PN29536 RG78PN1715 RD543 SD2 ED33 SN80 Registration District: Darlington Sub District: Darlington Enumeration District: 33 Parish: Darlington Address: 8 Polam Road Darlington County: Durham
Deaths Mar 1904 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shepherd Julia 47 Darlington 10a 18
Deaths Dec 1932 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shepherd John F 83 Darlington 10a 40
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31 May 2011 11:33 |
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SHEPHERD, John F Head Married M 52 1849 Wholesale Fruit Merchant Raskelf Yorkshire VIEW SHEPHERD, Julia Wife Married F 44 1857 Raskelf Yorkshire VIEW SHEPHERD, Elsie M Daughter F 7 1894 Darlington Durham VIEW SHEPHERD, Ursula M Daughter F 6 1895 Darlington Durham VIEW SHEPHERD, John L Son M 4 1897 Darlington Durham VIEW SHEPHERD, Donis E Daughter F 3 1898 Darlington Durham VIEW DOUGILL, Margaret Servant Single F 33 1868 Domestic Servant Durham VIEW
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1893 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Barker Julia Beverley 9d 155 Shepherd John Francis Beverley 9d 155
Regards Vera
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31 May 2011 11:31 |
1851 ref....
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SHEPHERD, James Head Married M 27 1824 Butcher (Master) Raskelf Yorkshire VIEW SHEPHERD, Sarah Wife Married F 31 1820 Steeton Yorkshire VIEW SHEPHERD, Thomas J Son M 3 1848 image looks like" L" Raskelf Yorkshire VIEW SHEPHERD, John F Son M 2 1849 Raskelf Yorkshire VIEW HILDRETH, Ellen Servant F 14 1837 House Servant Craike Yorkshire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: HO107 Piece: 2370 Folio: 210 Page: 17 Registration District: Easingwold Sub District: Easingwold Enumeration District: 3 Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Raskelf Municipal Borough: Address: Raskelf County: Yorkshire (North riding)
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31 May 2011 11:28 |
Reference....
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SHEPHERD, James Head Married M 67 1824 Farmer Raskelf Yorkshire VIEW SHEPHERD, Sarah Wife Married F 71 1820 Steeton Yorkshire VIEW SHEPHERD, John Francis Son Single M 42 1849 Fruit Merchant Raskelf Yorkshire VIEW SHEPHERD, Mary Laurence Daughter Single F 39 1852 Raskelf Yorkshire VIEW SHEPHERD, Sarah Emma Daughter Single F 38 1853 Raskelf Yorkshire VIEW SHEPHERD, Ellen Daughter Single F 33 1858 Raskelf Yorkshire VIEW THOMPSON, Joseph Servant Single M 40 1851 Agricultural Labourer Ganton Yorkshire VIEW KILDEN, Joseph Servant Single M 16 1875 Agricultural Labourer Easingwold Yorkshire VIEW LOVELY, Thomas Servant Single M 14 1877 Agricultural Labourer Crayke Yorkshire VIEW
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30 May 2011 19:38 |
Thank you Vera.Very kind of you to look further.
Thomas brother John Francis Shepherd is a fruit merchant in 1881 still living at home with his parents James andSarah
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29 May 2011 19:53 |
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SHEPARD, Thomas A Head Married M 31 1850 Clerk Accountant Ruskelp Yorkshire VIEW SHEPARD, Alice Wife Married F 29 1852 Wife Of Accountant Oswestry Shropshire VIEW SHEPARD, Bessie M A Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar Manchester Lancashire VIEW GANDY, Mary Servant Single F 19 1862 Domestic Servant West Bromwich Staffordshire VIEW GANDY, Annie M Servant Single F 14 1867 Domestic Servant West Bromwich Staffordshire VIEW
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