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Trying to find Benjamin Tubess

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AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 28 May 2011 19:15

Alfred Hicks
England and Wales Census, 1881

birth: 1870 —Tottenham, Middlesex, England
residence: 1881 —Wandsworth, Surrey, England
census: 1881 —Wandsworth, Surrey, England
parents: Robert Hicks, Mary Ann Hicks

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: Alfred Hicks
age: 11
gender: Male
birth year: 1870
birthplace: Tottenham, Middlesex, England
relationship to head of household: Son
marital condition: Single
address: 46 Dempster Rd
census place: Wandsworth, Surrey, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341153
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 658 / 100
page number: 19

Nickydownsouth

Nickydownsouth Report 28 May 2011 19:13

Mel......Mary Sceiver married a Hicks...it looks as though she is George Scievers sister...

Andy was just following a lead on the 1881 census where Alfred Hicks is down as a Nephew....


FMP marriages dosn`t even list Mary as a possible bride of George Sceiver,,,,just 1 male and 1 female...


Nicky


AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 28 May 2011 19:13

1881

George SCIVIER Head M Male 33 Bishops Gate Carman
Mary SCIVIER Wife M Female 29 Barking, Essex, England
Mary SCIVIER Dau Female 3 Marylebone, Middlesex, England
George SCIVIER Son Male 1 Anerley, Surrey, England
Henrietta SCIVIER Dau Female 1 m Norwood, Surrey, England
Alfred HICKS Nephew Male 11 Tottenham, Middlesex, England Scholar
William BROWN Boarder W Male 40 Kingston, Surrey, England Gen Laborer
William HOWSON Visitor U Male 50 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Gen Laborer


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Source Information:
Dwelling Cobden Rd 6 Glen Cottages
Census Place Croydon, Surrey, England
Family History Library Film 1341193
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0819 / 47
Page Number 24

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 28 May 2011 19:07

Joan, On the census returns (3 returns) it says that Mary was born Barking, Essex

EDIT

This is the 1881 census and it show Alfred Hicks (nephew)

Name: Mary Scivier
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George Scivier
Gender: Female
Where born: Barking, Essex, England

Civil parish: Croydon
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address: Cobden Rd 6 Glen Cottages
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Croydon
Sub-registration district: Croydon
ED, institution, or vessel: 46
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 819
Folio: 47
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
George Scivier 33
Mary Scivier 29
Mary Scivier 3
George Scivier 1
Henrietta Scivier
Alfred Hicks 11 Nephew
William Brown 40
William Howson 50


Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 28 May 2011 19:06

Where did Hicks come from??

The marriage is not on London Marriages either for Surrey.

jolee

jolee Report 28 May 2011 19:03

Sorry am I missing something where did Barking come from.

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 28 May 2011 18:01

Who were the witnesses on Mary Tubess' marriage certificate?

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 28 May 2011 17:42

I would say that Mary Ann Sceiver/Scivier is a sister of George who married Mary Tubess?

Andrew

Andrew Report 28 May 2011 17:31

On 1881 there is Alfred Hicks a nephew. Born Tottenham

1871

1871 England Census
about Alfred Ernest Hicks Name: Alfred Ernest Hicks
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Son
Father's name: Robert Hicks
Mother's name: Maryann Hicks
Gender: Male
Where born: Tottenham, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Tottenham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Ann
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Tottenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 144
Piece: 1340
Folio: 45
Page Number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Hicks 32
Maryann Hicks 26
Maryann Hicks 3
Alfred Ernest Hicks 1


and parents marroage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1869 (>99%)
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Hicks Robert Alfred Bethnal Green 1c 456
SCEIVER Mary Ann Bethnal Green 1c 456

so is Robert Hicks Mary Tubess sister?

Andy

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 28 May 2011 17:18

It's got to be a mistranscripion. The only Tubess that comes up on Ancestry is her marriage.
It's also the only Tubess on FreeBMD.

patchem

patchem Report 28 May 2011 17:10

Have you got the birth certificates of any of the children, to see how Mary's maiden name is recorded?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 May 2011 17:00

Does she always give Barking as her place of birth ?

Just looking at the 1881 at the moment

What is the occupation of Benjamin on the cert?

Dee

Dee Report 28 May 2011 16:54

Hi,
Can anyone shed any light on Benjamin Tubess for me?
On the marriage certificate for George Scivier (32)and Mary Tubess (26)dated October 27th 1879, Parish Church of St. Paul, Penge, Surrey. Mary's father is listed as Benjamin Tubess (deceased).
Both Mary and George are living at the same address at the time of their marriage. I can't find any records for either Mary or her father. In fact I can't even find the name Tubess. I have tried every combination in the book with regards to the spelling of the name, letters missed out, letters replaced with similar ones, name spelt phonetically and absolutely nothing. I've also looked at criminal, migration, and parish records to no avail. Any help at all would be very gratefully received.