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Trying to find Benjamin Tubess

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Dee

Dee Report 28 May 2011 20:39

Hi,
Tempest, have e-mailed you the certificate. Fingers crossed.

Dee

Dee Report 28 May 2011 20:30

Here is the information on the certificate. 1879 Parish Church of St. Paul, Penge, Surrey. No: 234
October 27th 1879
George Scivier - 32 - Bachelor - Carman. 6 Thicket Grove Father; George Scivier - Postman Deceased.
Mary Tubess - 26 - Spinster. 6 Thicket Grove. Fther. Benjamin Tubess. Deceased. Married by Banns. Both gave X as signatures.
In the presence of: Charles Wheeler and George Wheeler

tempest

tempest Report 28 May 2011 20:29

dee

have sent you a pm with my email address

jolee

jolee Report 28 May 2011 20:27

Thanks London belle I was born in Barking and next week I am going to the Barking archives I will give it a go.

Dee

Dee Report 28 May 2011 20:25

Hi guys, how do I get the scanned image of the wedding certificate over to you?

tempest

tempest Report 28 May 2011 20:01

hi Mel

there is no spouse listed on the fmp marriage entry for Mary Tubkss and they give the page as 451 (the original on fmp has a splodgey bit)

the entry for George has the page as 431, the entry only gives 3 names so one is missed off the transcription

the entry is clearer on ancestry

both have the details as

Registration District: Croydon
County: Surrey
Year of Registration: 1879
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Volume No: 2A

not that any of this helps us at the moment!

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 28 May 2011 19:45

Tempest does it give you the same marriage for George please?

Mary

Mary Report 28 May 2011 19:42

O/N/D 1879 Croydon Surrey 2a 431

Mary Tubess and george Scivier on same page.

Maryb

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 28 May 2011 19:41

Thats what I was thinking Lindsey. We have done that before.

patchem

patchem Report 28 May 2011 19:39

It does look like TUBKSS on the transcript on free bmd etc, but if Dee has the original marriage certificate she can read it herself.
This is why I suggested getting a birth certificate of one of the children to see what it said on there.

Nickydownsouth

Nickydownsouth Report 28 May 2011 19:38

I think the only way to find out her real maiden name is to get one of the childrens births certs.........and hope that her maiden name has been spelt proprerly!!


Ive tried all sorts scenarios and can`t find anything...

witness`s names would be good and father Benjamins occupation...??



Nicky



tempest

tempest Report 28 May 2011 19:33

Here's how fmp have her marriage

BMD Search result details
Civil Registration event: Marriage


Name: TUBKSS, Mary
Registration District: Croydon
County: Surrey
Year of Registration: 1879
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: 2A
Page No: 451

Nickydownsouth

Nickydownsouth Report 28 May 2011 19:27

Baptism of Henrietta but no mention of Marys previous surname....

Henrietta Scivier
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 1881
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT LUKES WOODSIDE, CROYDON, SURREY, ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: George Scivier
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: K15404-1
System Origin: England-VR
Source Film Number: 1067533
Reference Number: - 2:H3MJ73



nicky

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 28 May 2011 19:25

maybe if you could scan the image we could have a go a reading the original?

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 28 May 2011 19:23

But Dee says she has the marriage certificate.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 28 May 2011 19:22

Mary Scivier
England and Wales Census, 1881

birth: 1852 —Barking, Essex, England
residence: 1881 —Croydon, Surrey, England
census: 1881 —Croydon, Surrey, England
spouse: George Scivier
children: Mary Scivier, George Scivier...



Mary Scivier
England and Wales Census, 1881

birth: 1878 —Marylebone, Middlesex, England
residence: 1881 —Croydon, Surrey, England
census: 1881 —Croydon, Surrey, England
parents: George Scivier, Mary Scivier

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: Mary Scivier
age: 3
gender: Female
birth year: 1878
birthplace: Marylebone, Middlesex, England
relationship to head of household: Daughter
marital condition: Single
address: Cobden Rd 6 Glen Cottages
census place: Croydon, Surrey, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341193
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 819 / 47
page number: 24


George Scivier
England and Wales Census, 1881

birth: 1880 —Anerley, Surrey, England
residence: 1881 —Croydon, Surrey, England
census: 1881 —Croydon, Surrey, England
parents: George Scivier, Mary Scivier

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: George Scivier
age: 1
gender: Male
birth year: 1880
birthplace: Anerley, Surrey, England
relationship to head of household: Son
marital condition: Single
address: Cobden Rd 6 Glen Cottages
census place: Croydon, Surrey, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341193
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 819 / 47
page number:

tempest

tempest Report 28 May 2011 19:22

her year of birth is different on 1891 census

Address: 6, Groton Road, *, Wandsworth

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

SCIVIER, George Head Married M 40 1851 Labourer Winchester Hampshire
SCIVIER, Mary Wife Married F 42 1849 Barking Essex
SCIVIER, Mary Daughter Single F 14 1877 Servant London
SCIVIER, George Son M 11 1880 Hanby
SCIVIER, Lucy Daughter F 10 1881 Woodside
SCIVIER, Annie Daughter F 8 1883 Battersea London
SCIVIER, Alfred Daughter F 3 1888 Wandsworth London
SCIVIER, William Daughter M 2 1889 Wandsworth London

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 28 May 2011 19:20

George Scivier
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

spouse: Mary
child: Henrietta Scivier

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Henrietta Scivier
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 1881
baptism/christening place: SAINT LUKES WOODSIDE, CROYDON, SURREY, ENGLAND
father's name: George Scivier
mother's name: Mary
indexing project (batch) number: K15404-1
system origin: England-VR
source film number: 1067533

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 28 May 2011 19:17

George Scivier
England and Wales Census, 1881

birth: 1848 —Bishops Gate
residence: 1881 —Croydon, Surrey, England
census: 1881 —Croydon, Surrey, England
spouse: Mary Scivier
children: Mary Scivier, George Scivier...

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: George Scivier
age: 33
gender: Male
birth year: 1848
birthplace: Bishops Gate
relationship to head of household: Head
marital condition: Married
profession/occupation: Carman
address: Cobden Rd 6 Glen Cottages
census place: Croydon, Surrey, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341193
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 819 / 47
page number: 24

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 28 May 2011 19:15

Alfred Hicks
England and Wales Census, 1881

birth: 1870 —Tottenham, Middlesex, England
residence: 1881 —Croydon, Surrey, England
census: 1881 —Croydon, Surrey, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: Alfred Hicks
age: 11
gender: Male
birth year: 1870
birthplace: Tottenham, Middlesex, England
relationship to head of household: Nephew
marital condition: Single
profession/occupation: Scholar
address: Cobden Rd 6 Glen Cottages
census place: Croydon, Surrey, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341193
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 819 / 47
page number: