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safc and patchem.
I didnt see the original so didnt realise 1 of them was on a different number, I suppose i wanted it to be my people too much.
Thanks Teresa

Hi Astra,
Witnesses at Anns wedding were Edwards brother Richard and his wife Mary who also lived in Blackburn where Ann and Edward got married.
Teresa

Hi Teresa
Can you let us know the names of the witnesses at Anns wedding please. May help.
Thanks
Astra

This was the proposed marriage, with the Harriet Sutcliffe probably a different number (not 501 if you look at the original)
Marriages Sep 1854
DEVANEY Mary Liverpool 8b 501
Fitzgerald William Liverpool 8b 501
LEAHY Mary Ann Liverpool 8b 501
xxx Sutcliffe Harriet Liverpool 8b 501
SWEENEY Patrick Liverpool 8b 501
So 2 male 2 female at 8b 501

same 1 as i posted above from
http://lancashirebmd.org.uk/

Marriages Sep 1854 (>99%)
DEVANEY Mary Liverpool 8b 501
Fitzgerald William Liverpool 8b 501
xxxx LEAHY Mary Ann Liverpool 8b 501
Sutcliffe Harriet Liverpool 8b 501
xxxx SWEENEY Patrick Liverpool 8b 501

Hi safc.
I found a marriage for Mary Ann Leahy Sept qtr Liverpool on freeBMD but there were 3 ladies and 2 men on it and I ouln't find another man for that time.
It was volume 8b page 501.
Is this the one you are refering to??
Thanks Teresa.

Hi Astra.
Dad says Ann was definatley born in Liverpool. Marsh brothers worked in Lancashire bricklaying and met Ann there.
The 1861 census with Ann and Michael as Lodgers looks very promising.
The other one does not look like our family.
The Marsh's settled in Retford in the late 1780's and most lived in Retford, moving around sometimes to work.
Thanks again Teresa

Hi Patchem.
As far as we know Ann was an only child, my Dad and Aunt remember quite a few things about the Gt Grandma and never heard of her having siblings. We don't think that Michal married again. We know nothing about his job a Stoker (it wa stated on Ann's marriage certificate) It is thought that later he was a bargee. Edward Marsh and his brother Richard were bricklayers and worked in Liverpool and other parts of Lancashire and that is where he was said to have met Ann.
Thanks again Teresa

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1854
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
LEAHY Mary A SWEENEY Patrick Liverpool, Register Office or Registrar Attended Liverpool REG_LP/52/188

Found this. I don't think it is related to the family I posted above from Nottinghamshire although I can't find any of them either before or after the 1871.

Ann Connor
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Lpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Aidan
County/Island: Lancashire
Household Members: Name Age
William Poole 50
Ann Poole 47
Mary Poole 11
William Poole 9
>>>Michael Connor 40 >>Dock labourer born Ireland>>>Widower
>>>Ann Connor 7
Mary Murphy 5

This is the only likely candidate I can find but it gives her birth place as Nottinghamshire. I need to trace it further back but i have to get ready for work. Will look further when I come home. This, at least puts her in the right place to have met Edward who is still in Nottinghamshire in 1871.

Name: Mary Oconnor
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Civil parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Oconnor 40
>>>>Ann Oconnor 17
Michael Oconnor 12
Dennis Oconnor 8
Mary Oconnor 10
Mary Duffy 20
Mary Learord 40
James McGown 17

EDIT: From the 1881 it would appear that Mary is married to James O'Connor

Do you know if Ann was definitely an only child?
Did Michael marry again?
Do you know anything about Michael's job as a stoker?
And any idea how she got from Liverpool to Nottinghamshire?
Thanks.

Added:
1881 England Census
Ed. Marsh
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Marsh
Gender: Male Where born: Retford, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil parish: Over Darwen
County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
Street Address: 5 Hutchinson CT
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Brick Layer
Registration district: Blackburn Sub-registration district: Darwen
ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Piece: 4205 Folio: 6 Page Number: 6

Ed. Marsh 31
Ann Marsh 27
Thos. Marsh 4 Darwen
Ed. Marsh 2 Darwen
Sus. McFether 67 lodger Retford

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4205; Folio: 6; Page: 6; GSU roll: 1342007.

Hi Asta.
Thanks for your input tonight.
Have to go now, will have a look on tomorrow to see if there is any more.
Teresa :-)

I'm shutting down for the night now. Will take another look in the morning.

Yes thats right, on her marriage certificate her Father was Michael O'Connor a Stoker.
Teresa

And you are saying her father was Michael O'connor?

Marriages Dec 1875 (>99%)
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BRINDLE John Blackburn 8e 630
COOPER Ellen Blackburn 8e 630
>>>MARSH Edward Blackburn 8e 630
>>>O'Connor Ann Blackburn 8e 630

Yes Astra that is the right one.

This is the one

MARSH, Ann Head Widow F 54 1857 No Occupation Liverpool Lancs VIEW
MARSH, James Son Single M 21 1890 Farm Labourer Horseman Retford Notts VIEW
MARSH, Charles Son Single M 18 1893 Farm Labourer Cowman Retford Notts VIEW
MARSH, Janey Grand-Daughter F 6 1905 School Retford Notts VIEW
MARSH, John Grandson M 3 1908 Retford Notts VIEW
GLASBY, Annie Boarder Single F 22 1889 Laundress Ironer Malterseyner Retford Nottinghamshire VIEW
GLASBY, George Boarder M 2 1909 Retford Notts VIEW

Address:
Back Pad Moorgate Retford County:
Nottinghamshire

Just deleted that one Patchem as i didn't think it could be correct looking at the 1901?