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There is a Bessie Roberts on the 1911 census.ie age 8 born Killarney, could this be your Elizabeth Roberts?
Nearly a thousand James Campbell's in Ireland in1911.

I wonder whether maybe your Elizabeth Roberts was quite young in WWI, maybe not quite as young as you have her, and had a baby with a James Campbell to whom she wasn't married.

If you *know* that your Elizabeth married Andrew Sharkey, this could explain why her name wasn't Campbell.

Is your dad the son of James Campbell?


Here is a James Campbell who died late in 1918 in WWI:

Name: CAMPBELL
Initials: J A T
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Driver
Regiment/Service: Army Service Corps
Unit Text: 209th Horse Transport Coy.
Age: 22
Date of Death: 19/08/1918
Service No: T4/247254
Additional information: Son of Hugh Osborne Campbell and Agnes Taylor Campbell, of 73, Chancellor St., Partick, Glasgow.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: 1489.
Cemetery: SALONIKA (LEMBET ROAD) MILITARY CEMETERY

The medal card for the name James AT Campbell matches the service number T4/247254 and T4/2064, Army Service Corps, and says he served in Egypt and entered the military in June 1915.

Ah, I have found that person's service record.

Name: James Anderson Taylor Campbell
Residence: 13 India St, Partick
Document Year: 1914
Regimental Number: 2064
Regiment Name: Army Service Corps
Number of images: 14

He died of meningitis on 19 August 1918 in Salonica and he had been overseas since 1915. No widow and no children.



This is all the purest *speculation* just in an effort to make some sense out fo the things you have said, and it isn't working much.

If your nan died in Canada at Christmas 1976 after the death of her husband ... is it possible that this is the death of her husband? --

Name: James Arthur Campbell
Birth Date: 3 Nov 1895
>> Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1976
Age at Death: 81
Registration district: Surrey South Eastern
Registration County: Surrey
Volume: 17
Page: 1072

and that this whole Sharkey business is a red herring?

Okay, David, I googled.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/records_office/thread/1157436

A thread about EXACTLY THE SAME PERSON as this one. (And I'm very sure that the messages you sent me in 2009 were about yet another thread about the same person.)

"can't find death in gro in uk or canada
my nan born 1903 in ireland elizabeth roberts, married a james campbell born 1896 in dundee he died , she then married an andy sharky and he died she went to canada over the christmas hoildays 1976 and she died of a heart attack i think she was buried in the uk"

mgnv informed you how to get a death certificate in Ontario -- you said that your nan died in 1976 in Goodwood, Ontario, a place so tiny and obscure I've never heard of it, even though my mother and sister have lived 20 miles from there for the last 10 years.

Did you do that? Did you apply for a death certificate for your nan?

There are rules, you know, and a big one is: only one post per topic.

I have the feeling I must have done a lot of this once already.

Do you *know* any of these things yourself, from personal knowledge?

David, it seems to me you need to start over with what *you* know.

This doesn't make sense for starters:

"she was born in ireland,( killarney) i think in november 1904 but can't find that .she married a james campbell who was a scot but can't find out when i think that might have been in ireland? he died in the war i think ?"

A person born in 1904 was not old enough to have a husband who died in World War One. (And she was married to someone else by World War Two.)


"this is all from the genealogist web site"

Yes, well, I don't know what website that is, but it is not making a stitch of sense.

I can't see any reason to think that the Elizabeth Roberts who married Andrew Sharkey is your Elizabeth Roberts who had married a Campbell.

Unless you know of some children your Elizabeth had while married to Sharkey -- do you?

Please tell us what you *know*.

Your father is a child of Elizabeth Roberts and James Campbell?

He's deceased, I believe. Can you tell us where and when he was born, his name, whether he had any brothers and sisters?

Please read through the questions in this thread carefully, and please come back and tell us only what *you* *know*!

Then we'll see what we can see.

David, you aren't still replying to posts by private message, are you?

I have in my inbox two messages from two years ago saying

"hi thank you for your reply my aunt got the year wrong it was 1896 "
and
"yes the childern are right"

... I didn't know what they were about then, and I still don't ...


Please, please -- answer in the thread, not by private message.

So you need to get that marriage certificate, David.

It will give you her age and father's name -- hopefully.

You order it here:

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/


There are 6 births to that marriage in Surrey N / NE registration district, all girls but one. Are you in touch with all their families?

Oops, my mistake -- there was another Sharkey-Roberts marriage in Surrey North Eastern, one year earlier. That seems a little coincidental! Do you know which births belong to your Sharkey-Roberts couple? (Don't put the birth details here if they are or may be still living, though.)

Are you in touch with the two people who have one of those children in their trees here at GR? One of them has John Sharkey (presumably the one who married in Surrey 1937) as

John Sharkey 1906 Cartoonmore, Ballagh...

You have your Andrew as

Andrew Sharkey 1908 Killarney,Ireland

The person who has the John Sharkey I mentioned above has

Andrew Sharkey 1906 Killarney, Southern ...

Is this your Andrew Sharkey's death?

Name: Andrew Sharkey
Birth Date: 5 Oct 1908
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1969
Age at Death: 60
Registration district: Kingston Upon Thames
Registration County: Greater London
Volume: 5c
Page: 1724

It's quite unusual for a woman to remarry under her birth surname, whether she is divorced or widowed. Are you absolutely certain that the person who married Andrew Sharkey is your Elizabeth Campbell born Roberts?

Can you explain the circumstances in which she ended up in Canada? Is there other family here (I'm in Canada) now?

i could not find
Campbell/Roberts marriage any where but i could not work out how to get around the ireland site
but i found Roberts /sharkey marriage
dave

Deleted death info as incorrect - message from David says she died in Canada.

Mary

Can't see a Sharkey/Campbell marriage?? Is that the correct spelling of Sharkey?

Mary

EDIT: Re-Married in her maiden name??

Name: Andrew Sharkey
Spouse Surname: Roberts
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1938
Registration district: Surrey North Eastern
Registration county (inferred): Surrey
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 179
Find Spouse: Elizabeth Roberts

sorry just add it

David,

You have forgotten to tellus your nans name.

Annx

trying to find out about my nan?( elizabeth roberts)
she was born in ireland,( killarney) i think in november 1904 but can't find that .she married a james campbell who was a scot but can't find out when i think that might have been in ireland? he died in the war i think ?
she remarried a andrew sharkey who was from ireland in 1938 richmond
as i don't have any family to ask this is all from the genealogist web site anyone that can help would be a great help to me