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Wendy can I prevail on your good nature again please.

I have William Bartrop born c 1834 Walkeringham, Notts. He was a Shoe maker by trade. He is never with his parents on the census only grandparents William b 1785 Worksop and his wife Sarah b 1788 Honeysecks, (that's what it looks like on census but no idea where it is) Derbyshire.

He married Charlotte ??Keightley in early 1860 , Worksop .

Anything that would give his parent's names would be wonderful.

Many thanks in advance Jennifer

hi Derek,

Yes form late 1837 people could marry in Register Offices or just a thought maybe they married in a Baptist, Methodist Roman Catholic Chapels, I will see what records the archives hold on those.

Wendy

Hi Wendy,

I have sent you a PM.

Sandra

Hi Lorriane,

I've checked Basford Cemetery for Woodwards in the 1970's and there were none, but there was 2 for the 1980's so took them down in case they are of use to you.
1st
Leonard Woodward aged 85yrs of 46 Riegate Rd, Basford died 3rd July 1984 buried 6 July 1984 section C8 Grave 17.
Also in grave is:
Albert Woodward aged 43yrs buried 15 Feb 1912
Annie Woodward aged 67yrs buried 20 Aug 1936
Elise May Woodward aged 40yrs buried 31 Jan 1940
Evely Mary Woodward aged 84yrs buried 2 Oct 1991.

2nd
Elise Woodward aged 77yrs of 24 Rose Ash Lane, Bestwood, died 24 Aug 1984 buried 3 Sept 1984 Section B4 Grave 30
Also in grave is:
Arthur Sheffield Woodward aged 25yrs buried 16 Jan 1915
Elizabeth Woodward aged 29yrs buried 20 Aug 1920
Thomas Woodard aged 57yrs buried 8 Now 1923
Ada Woodward aged 82yrs buried 24 Dec 1952.

Let me know if you want more info on those.

Wendy

Hello Wendy..thanks for your efforts...........I presume that by 1915 people didnot have to marry in Church.which appears obvious in this case..

Keep up the good work.

Derek

Hi Derek,

Hope you are keeping on eye on this thread. I have now managed to look though all Mansfield Churches for the Marriage of Frank Witham and Annie Surgey 1915 that you ask for but its not in any of them so again I think its best for your connect to buy the certificate but I'll keep on eye out in case it pops up else where.

Sorry about that.

Wendy

hi wendy
thank you
lorraine

Hi Lorraine,

1970's would be the Cemetery I don't have them on CD but will check the records at the archives when I'm next there, but its more likely to be at Bulwell Cemetery or Wilford Hill.

Wendy

hi wendy
i think you have basford burials on cd [do you ]if so is there any woodward
surnames on it who died in the 1970s
thank you lorraine

Hello again Wendy

Could you please do a quick marriage look up for me when you next go to Nottingham. Any additional info would be great.

30.7.1810 at St Wilfrids, Kirkby in Ashfield
William Cowlishaw & Elizabeth Bonsal

Thanks very much
Carol

Hi Wendy
Thomas Atkinson married to Fanny, she remarried after his death to William Brownlow. Not sure why they are in same grave ?
Henry Atkinson died aged 2 33 Rawson St, Florence and Gertrude could well be his sister's . He was born 3 years after parents marriage [unusal in those days ]
Ethel died aged 7 she was a twin and died after night dress caught fire
John is the correct age to be the one i think is Henry and Thomas's father
I still have to confirm Henry's death, 1904 i think, they lived Bobersmill Road , Basford at that time
Hannah Maria died 1940 and is buried in Nottm General Cemetery. This helps to find the 5 children who died .
THANK YOU SO MUCH
Serena :-)

\thanks Wendy..the marraige was registered Mansfield 1915 ccording to Bmd.

Derek.

Hi Serena,

Some info for you, burials at Basford Cemetery:

Thomas Atkinson aged 31yrs of Rye St buried 15 Sept 1891, also in same grave are::
Thomas Walker aged 72yrs buried 21 sept 1905
William Henry Brownlow aged 81yrs buried 30 Oct 1935
Fanny Brownlow aged 81yrs buried 19 Nov 1937.

Another Grave is:
Florence Atkinson aged 4 yrs of Rawson St buried 27 April 1880
Gertrude Atkinson aged 2yrs of Rawson St buried 19 May 1880
Harry Atkinson aged 2yrs of Rawson St buried 12 Feb 1883
Margaret Blackman aged 19yrs buried 21 March 1898
Frances Lousia Tetterton aged 2 months buried 6 Feb 1906
George Tetterson ages 8 weeks buried 3 April 1909.
It doesn't say who parents were.

Another Grave
John Atkinson aged 66yrs buried 4 Nov 1882
Leonard Atkinson aged 14 months buried 7 June 1886
Ethel Atkinson aged 7yrs buried 26 Dec 1890
John Harrison aged 68yrs buried 11 Aug 1904
Susannah Ward aged 71yrs buried 29 Aug 1904

Another Grave
Arthur Atkinson aged 12yrs buried 1 May 1890

Another Grave
George Atkinson aged 2yrs buried 18 Dec 1886.

Still some more graves to check. Do any of those names mean anything to you.

Wendy

Hi Derek,

Just to let you know I've started to look though Mansfield churches for the Marriage of Frank Witham and Annie Surgey. I've done St Mary Sutton in Ashfield and most of Mansfields churches but haven't found it yet.

Wendy

HI Serena,

Sorry had to go off-line yesterday. I must have read the 1881 census wrong. So it does look like the same family then, I'll see what I can find at the archives for you.

Wendy

Hi Wendy,
Thomas was married to Fanny, 1881 they lived 21 Rawson Street. 1891 living 49 Rye Street, Basford he was listed as imbecile on census.

Fanny remarried 1892

1881 Henry and Maria at 33 Rawson Street
1881 John Atkinson 37 Rawson Street, Coal Miner. Henry married 1877, Thomas 1878. Could John have become a miner after 1871 ??

This is driving me crazy. I cann't find any christening records for Henry and Maria's children so i assume the weren't christened, they also had 7 children who died i can only find 2 of them !!!!

Thanks for looking
Serena

Hi Serena,

No I dont think its the same family as that John was a Frame Work Knitter but on the 1881 census he was living on the same street as your Henry.

I have looked on BMD and found a Henry Atkinson born March Qtr 1858 Radford District and a Thomas Atkinson born Dec 1859 Basford District so they could be yours sorry no christenings for them.

Also how do you know that Thomas died 1891 if you cannot find a death record??.
I will have to do some looking on census to help o find out more.

Wendy

Hi Jacqui,

Need more info on who you are looking for.

Wendy

Hi wendy if you could find out any info on the hulse or wilks families would realyy apprecaite it
thanks Jacqui

Hi Wendy, I see Derek has contacted you regarding my family. Maria Sison 1859 Ilkeston [ Hannah Maria ] and Henry Atkinson1858 Basford

On their marriage at St Leodegarius , Basford 1877, it gives Thomas Atkinson and Fanny White as Witnesses. They married 1878
Henry and Thomas i assume are brothers as they both list John Atkinson, Miner as father.
I have searched for their records but drawn a blank, however i have found John Atkinson 1817 m Emma White 1823, Children William 1853 ,George H J 1855, John Thomas 1858 , Albert 1867
Thomas Atkinson died 1891, no death record but a death for John Thomas.Could George H J be my Henry ?? I know they lived in Basford Rawson Street, Rye Street area
Hope you may be able to help
Serena