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Hi,
I have tracked down a marriage I have been lookig for:-

Mary Ballantine 20 to George Oliver 33 in Gortin, Lower Bodoney, Tyrone in 1909.

Mary's father is given as John Ballantine (Farmer, Cockatanty, Lower Bodoney).

Can anyone help who has access to Irish records to find Mary's birth records or any other information on this Ballantine family. Obviously it would be great to find Mary's mother's details etc.

Hope someone can help

Robert,

You can check the Irish 1901 and 1911 census for free at The national Archives.

You haven't given an age for Mary when she married.


Dee x

Maybe the father in 1901??

Residents of a house 3 in Crockatanty (Glenlark, Tyrone)
Show all informationSurname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses
Ballantine John 68 Male Head of Family Irish Church Tyrone Farmer Read and write - Widower -
Ballantine John 26 Male Son Irish Church Tyrone Farmers Son Read and write - Not Married -
Ballantine Hessie 19 Female Daughter Irish Church


Dee x

Maybe the sons baptism??

Name: John Ballantine
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place: GORTIN, TYR, IRE
Birth Date: 03 Sep 1873
Birthplace: Gortin, Tyr, Ire
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Ballantine
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary Anne Charles
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C39076-6
System Origin: Ireland-VR
Source Film Number: 255889
Reference Number: 127


AND>>>>>>>>>>> Was Mary actually Mary Anne???

Name: Mary Ann Ballantine
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 04 Mar 1879
Birthplace: Crockatanty, Tyrone, Ireland
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Ballantine
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Charles Ballantine
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01699-6
System Origin: Ireland-EASy
Source Film Number: 256021
Reference Number: v 2-1 p 137

Maybe the mothers death registration if the above info is correct??

Name: Mary Anne Ballantine
Registration District: Gortin
Event Type: DEATHS
Registration Quarter and Year: Oct - Dec 1882
Estimated Birth Year: 1838
Age (at Death): 44
Mother's Maiden Name:
Film Number: 101591
Volume Number: 2
Page Number: 86
Digital Folder Number: 4200673
Image Number: 00214


The baptisms and above info was also on a free site; www.familysearch.org

Have a play about on the site and see what you find, the parents marriage is their naming their fathers, but I'll let you find that.




Dee x

??

John Ballentine
Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881
birth: 31 Mar 1868 — Tyrone, Ireland
christening:
baptism:
death:
burial:
residence: 1868 — Ireland
parents: George Ballentine, Anne Monteith
spouse:
child:
marriage:

record title: Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881
name: John Ballentine
gender: Male
birth date: 31 Mar 1868
birthplace: Tyrone, Ireland
father's name: George Ballentine
mother's name: Anne Monteith
indexing project (batch) number: C01175-9
system origin: Ireland-EASy
source film number: 101166

Dear All,
This is all great information.. I will digest and post comments etc later.
thanks again for the investigations for me.

best regards
Bob

This probably could be the family but I'm not sure about Mary Anne
From Above,
Name: Mary Ann Ballantine
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 04 Mar 1879
Birthplace: Crockatanty, Tyrone, Ireland

My Mary was 20 in 1909 so her birth year was c1889.

Also noticed from marriage cert. that one witness is Martha Ballantine - sister perhaps?

ta
Bob

This John has a daughter Martha but no Mary.

1901

Residents of a house 13 in Oaghmonicrory (Glenlark, Tyrone)
Show all informationSurname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses
Ballantine John 50 Male Head of Family Church of Ireland Co Tyrone Farmer Reed or rite Irish and English Married -
Ballantine Matilda 46 Female Wife Church of Ireland Co Tyrone Farmer Wife Cant reed Irish and English Married -
Ballantine James 19 Male Son Church of Ireland Co Tyrone Farmer Reed or rite - Not Married -
Ballantine William 17 Male Son Church of Ireland Co Tyrone Farmer Reed or rite - Not Married -
Ballantine Martha 13 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Co Tyrone Choolar Reed or rite - Not Married -
Ballantine Magie 8 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Co Tyrone At Chool Cant reed - Not Married -
Ballantine Charles 8 Male Son Church of Ireland Co Tyrone At Chool Cant - Not Married -
Ballantine John 5 Male Son Church of Ireland Co Tyrone At School Cant - Not Married -

Same family in 1911 - 10 children born and 8 living so I am wondering if they weren't all home for the 1901?

Residents of a house 16 in Oaghmonicroy (Glenlark, Tyrone)
Show all informationSurname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living
Ballantine John 61 Male Head of Family Church of Ireland Tyrone Farmer Read right - Married - - - -
Ballantine Matilda 59 Female Wife Church of Ireland Tyrone - Read right - Married - 31 10 8
Ballantine Maggie 17 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Tyrone - Read right - - - - - -
Ballantine Charles 20 Male Son Church of Ireland Tyrone - Read right - - - - - -
Ballantine John 14 Male Son Church of Ireland Tyrone - Read right - - - - - -

From the census rotgatherer found there's birth's for all these children on

http://ifhf.rootsireland.ie/

Margaret & a Mary Anne born 1892 Gortin


Parents John Ballantine & Matilda McIvor

Although no Mary showing up in 1901 census (and she is married by 1911 one) this family does have a Martha and also from Maura's post John and Matilda did have a daughter Mary..

I wonder if Oaghmonicroy (Glenlark, Tyrone) is near Cockatanty?

Bob

I think I got the wrong family, as John Ballantine from Crockatanty died 1902

Title : Date of Death : 2 October 1902
Surname : Ballantine Date of Grant : 15 September 1903
Forename : John Reseal Date :
Registry : Londonderry Effects : Effects £246 14s. 2d.
No Image
Full Abstract :
Administration (with the Will) of the estate of John Ballantine late of Crockatanty County Tyrone Farmer who died 2 October 1902 granted at Londonderry to John Ballantice Farmer.

http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/will_calendars.htm

Thats very interesting though Maura. That is presumably transfer of the estate from father to son. £246 seems a reasonable sum for those days.

I am beginning to thnk there may be several John Ballantine's in that area!

Would the death certificate for 2/10/1902 give wife's maiden name (I'm in Scotland and it would here).

Bob

No Robert, it only give you

name
age
address
date of death
occupation
cause of death
informant name

Mary Ann could of lied about her age, and the family that batmansdaughter found in 1901 census could be hers as there is a birth for a Hester Ballantine for a John Ballantine & Mary Charles

Hi Maura,


'....could be hers as there is a birth for a Hester Ballantine for a John Ballantine & Mary Charles '

Am I missing something, how does that say there is a Mary in that family?

I know that people did indeed alter their ages it it suited.
regards
Bob

Residents of a house 3 in Crockatanty (Glenlark, Tyrone)
Show all informationSurname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses
Ballantine John 68 Male Head of Family Irish Church Tyrone Farmer Read and write - Widower -
Ballantine John 26 Male Son Irish Church Tyrone Farmers Son Read and write - Not Married -
Ballantine Hessie 19 Female Daughter Irish Church

Hessie short for Hester and there a birth for her on http://ifhf.rootsireland.ie/ 1881 Gortin parents john Ballantine & Mary Charles.
Batmansdaughter found a birth for a Mary Anne with the same parents.

Hester married a John Farquhar

Maura,

Yes of course, so much info I had missed the mothers name on that one. Yes maybe she was older than she said on the marriage certificate.

Residents of a house 2 in Crockatanty (Glenlark, Tyrone)
Show all information
Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living
Farguhar John 43 Male Head of Family Prebyestrian Church Co Tyrone Farmer Read and write - Married - - - -
Farguhar Hester 29 Female Wife Prebyestrian Church Co Tyrone - Read and write - Married - 6 3 3
Farguhar John Charles 5 Male Son Prebyestrian Church Co Tyrone - Cannot read - Single - - - -
Farguhar Mary Elizabeth 3 Female Daughter Prebyestrian Church Co Tyrone - Cannot read - Single - - - -
Farguhar David 1 Male Son Prebyestrian Church Co Tyrone - Cannot read - Single - - - -
McGillan Daniel 23 Male Servant Roman Catholic

Looks like the Ballantine family had lived there for many years;

Ireland, Griffith’s Valuation, 1848-1864
about John Ballantine
Occupier: John Ballantine
Lessor: Edward C Knox
COUNTY: Tyrone
Barony: Strabane, Upper
Parish: Bodoney Lower
Townland: Crockatanty
OS Page Numbers: 19

Description of tenement; House, offices and land

Also listed with John is James and William Ballantine......... and a couple of doors down is John Farquhar!!!

Now I think John Ballantine is the owner of this unoccupied house;

Ireland, Griffith’s Valuation, 1848-1864
about Unoccupied
Occupier: Unoccupied
Lessor: John Ballantine
COUNTY: Tyrone
Barony: Strabane, Upper
Parish: Bodoney Lower
Townland: Crockatanty
OS Page Numbers: 19


There is also a "View historical map" on Ancestry for Crockatanty....... if you would like me to email it to you Bob just send me a private message (click onto my name) and I'll forward a copy to you.


Dee x