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MeJoy75
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12 Apr 2011 13:39 |
Hi all,
Can anyone please find a Joseph Southway, c1816 wife Eliza c1809-1815 and daughter Ann 1838, possible in Weston Town, Evercreech, Somerset.
I have found them on all other Census.
Thanks, Joy
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Flick
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12 Apr 2011 13:51 |
Where was Ann born?
When did Joseph & Eliza marry?
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MeJoy75
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12 Apr 2011 13:54 |
Hi Flick,
They married in 1837 in Evercreech and Ann was born 1838 in Evercreech, Ann died in Australia
Joy
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MargaretM
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12 Apr 2011 13:56 |
Could Eliza have been previously married to Charles Garland?
1841 England Census about Eliza Garland Name: Eliza Garland Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Gender: Female Where born: Somerset, England Civil parish: Evercreech Hundred: Wells Forum County/Island: Somerset Country: England Registration district: Shepton Mallet Sub-registration district: Evercreech Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Charles Garland 32 Eliza Garland 30 Ann Garland 1 William Quane 80
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12 Apr 2011 13:57 |
For info only..............
Name: Ann Southway Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: 23 Sep 1838 Baptism/Christening Place: EVERCREECH,SOMERSET,ENGLAND Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Joseph Southway Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Eliza Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C14127-2 System Origin: England-ODM Source Film Number: unknown Reference Number: Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
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MeJoy75
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12 Apr 2011 14:02 |
Margee,
No I don't think she was married before.
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Sue C
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12 Apr 2011 14:02 |
Not sure about this, but the age of Joseph is very unclear on the original. Edit....Not the correct family, have found these on the 1851.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SOUTHWAY, Joseph M 65 1776 Somerset SOUTHWAY, Betsy F 45 1796 Somerset SOUTHWAY, Anna F 6 1835 Somerset SOUTHWAY, Sarah F 3 1838 Somerset
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: HO107 Piece: 948 Book/Folio: 9/7 Page: 9 Registration District: Shepton Mallet Sub District: Stoke Lane Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Stratton on the Foss Municipal Borough: Address: Fernhill, Stratton On The Foss County: Somersetshire
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Flick
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12 Apr 2011 14:03 |
Clutching at straws...............with very little confidence
Name: Eliza Southway Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Gender: Female Where born: Somerset, England Civil parish: Evercreech Hundred: Wells Forum County/Island: Somerset Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Shepton Mallet Sub-registration district: Evercreech Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Jas Southway 20 Eliza Southway 20 Eliza Southway 2 Nk Southway 3 Weeks (female) Address looks like Pecking Mill
There is a 'known problem' in 1841 with piece 942, Somerset ....parish Mells
Don't know enough about the County to determine whether that is significant in this case.
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MargaretM
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12 Apr 2011 14:04 |
There are these children of Joseph & Eliza in Evercreech but no Ann:
SOUTHWAY, John Chr 1837 Engl Some Evercr Fa: Joseph SOUTHWAY Mo: Eliza SOUTHWAY, John Chr 1843 Engl Some Evercr Fa: Joseph SOUTHWAY Mo: Eliza SOUTHWAY, James Chr 1844 Engl Some Evercr Fa: Joseph SOUTHWAY Mo: Eliza SOUTHWAY, Henry Chr 1849 Engl Some Evercr Fa: Joseph SOUTHWAY Mo: Eliza SOUTHWAY, Job Chr 1857 Engl Some Evercr Fa: Joseph SOUTHWAY Mo: Eliza
Edit: Wonder if this is one of those cases where male and female baptisms are entered in different books and LDS has only recorded the males. I've come across that before.
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GlitterBaby
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12 Apr 2011 14:09 |
Do you know that Ann survived past 1841
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MeJoy75
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12 Apr 2011 14:09 |
There are a number of other children - daughters Elizabeth 1841, Mary 1846, Emily 1851, Elizabeth 1854 and son James 1860
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Flick
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12 Apr 2011 14:11 |
Ann is on 1851 as a servant, aged 12
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GlitterBaby
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12 Apr 2011 14:13 |
Thanks Flick
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MargaretM
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12 Apr 2011 14:13 |
Yes, I didn't record James because mother was listed as Elizabeth not Eliza. I still think the listings I have are just male baptisms.
SOUTHWAY, James Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 27 Jun 1860 Recorded in: Evercreech, Somersetshire, England Father: Joseph SOUTHWAY Mother: Elizabeth Source: FHL Film Dates: 1848 - 1881
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Flick
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12 Apr 2011 14:14 |
Are these your people in 1851?
Name: Joseph Southway Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Eliza Southway Gender: M (Male) Where born: Evercreech, Somerset, England Civil parish: Evercreech County/Island: Somerset Country: England Registration district: Shepton Mallet Sub-registration district: Stoke Lane ED, institution, or vessel: 4a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 120 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Southway 33 Eliza Southway 36 Mary Southway 4 Henry Southway 1 Did Elizabeth 1841 die?
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Flick
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12 Apr 2011 14:15 |
I posted Ann''s baptism a while back...................
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Flick
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12 Apr 2011 14:17 |
Name: Elizabeth Southway Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: 06 Jun 1841 Baptism/Christening Place: EVERCREECH,SOMERSET,ENGLAND Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Joseph Southway Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Eliza Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C14127-2 System Origin: England-ODM Source Film Number: unknown Reference Number: Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 ______________________________________________________
Name: Elizabeth Southway Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: 10 May 1854 Baptism/Christening Place: EVERCREECH,SOMERSET,ENGLAND Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Joseph Southway Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Eliza Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C14127-2 System Origin: England-ODM Source Film Number: unknown Reference Number: Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
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MeJoy75
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12 Apr 2011 14:17 |
Glitter Baby,
Ann and her husband Enos Swaine emigrated to Australia in 1862, she died in 1924
Margee, you are probably right.
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MargaretM
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12 Apr 2011 14:18 |
Ah yes, here's the females:
1. ELIZABETH SOUTHWAY - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 06 JUN 1841 Evercreech, Somerset, England 2. ELIZABETH SOUTHWAY - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 10 MAY 1854 Evercreech, Somerset, England 3. EMILY SOUTHWAY - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 28 OCT 1851 Evercreech, Somerset, England 4. ANN SOUTHWAY - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 23 SEP 1838 Evercreech, Somerset, England No Mary though.
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MeJoy75
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12 Apr 2011 14:22 |
Flick, yes they are the right family on the 1851 Census.
Interesting, my gg grandmother was Mary, there are a number of trees that she is not on, now I know why, probably wasn't baptised!!
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