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Elaine

Elaine Report 12 Apr 2011 19:01

that lodge lane NOT ladge lane! erin..only joseph mahon in 1871 census was b.1807 and lived mount st. prescot. much woolton

Elaine

Elaine Report 12 Apr 2011 18:54

at time of death dennis was living 4,schofield st. tyldesley

Elaine

Elaine Report 12 Apr 2011 18:52

den & cath were both living lodge lane A-i-Makerfield. den still in ladge lane,and bridg as A-i-Makerfield(no street given)

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 12 Apr 2011 18:43

Elaine...1881...but he may have been a brother of himself...
You can check out 1871 Census see if Joseph is listed in the area...I dont have access or would have done it...

Elaine

Elaine Report 12 Apr 2011 18:39

second wedding to bridget in tuam cathedral was on 1st nov. 1873. on this cert spellings are denis mahon and bridget farrell. but on the a-i-m cert spelling is denNis mahAn ! so matbe tuam is a red herring? we visit tuam a lot...my daughter lives there,and my husband was reared there! hope this helps erin(presume you are irish,by the name...where you from?)

Elaine

Elaine Report 12 Apr 2011 18:32

what year is this erin? my joseph died between 1861 and 1868,cos he was alive on dennis & catherines cert...but deceased on dennis & bridgets cert

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 12 Apr 2011 18:27

Elaine..What date was the Marriage at the Cathedral ?
Was Brid Farrell a Galway girl...?

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 12 Apr 2011 18:21

Elaine...What addresses do you have on the MC and DC for Dennis and Cath...

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 12 Apr 2011 18:12

EGB, could you edit the post two above to show the *census year*?

I don't think we should assume that either Denis's or Catherine's parents were in England, though.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 12 Apr 2011 18:09

Elaine ..Have brought this over .So folk wont be wondering where the Co Mayo connection is from...
www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/records_office/thread/1263289

thnx a million RamblingRose...will try them. the names i am seeking are my gt gt grandad Dennis(denis?) Mahon(mahan,mahone?) the 2 spells for dennis come from census and marriage lists..as with mahon & mahan. the mahone is how mi dad said it was spelt. we know he was from mayo. we live in n.ireland,but used to live in galway,and when my dad came over every year we took him all over...when we took him to westport,he said that was where his family was from. don't know if this is correct,but until his death in jan. age 86,his mind was still very sharp.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 12 Apr 2011 17:57

Elaine.... Surely this has got to be the relation of himself...!!
1881..Census


Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Joseph MAHON Head M Male 53 Ireland Laborer At Iron Works
Ann MAHON Wife M Female 50 Ireland
Patrick MAHON Son U Male 27 Ireland Laborer At Iron Works
Joseph MAHON Son U Male 19 Ireland Laborer At Iron Works
Harriet MAHON Daur U Female 18 Ireland School Pupil Teacher
Mary MAHON Daur U Female 21 Ireland Cotton Rover In Mill
William MAHON Son M Male 23 Ireland General Laborer
Ann MAHON Grand Daur Female 3 Wigan, Lancashire, England
Ann CARR Daur M Female 25 Ireland Cotton Rover In Mill
James CARR Grand Son Male 3 St Helens, Lancashire, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 19 A John Street
Census Place Ince In Makerfield, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341903
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3777 / 50
Page Number 32

Elaine

Elaine Report 12 Apr 2011 17:53

nearly erin...wedding was 14th july 1868..4mths after catherine rice died. they married st.oswalds RC chapel.ashton-in-makerfield. witnesses:-james malone & elizabeth lynch. also have a copy of a wedding between same two people,which was at the cathedral of the assumption. tuam.. co.galway. ireland! as i live in n.ireland,i rang the presbytary,and spoke to the secretary...she seemed to think that it might have been a blessing for familf that couldnt get to 1st wedding in england. but i am RC and have renewed my vows,but didnt get a second certificate. dennis' second wife was bridget farrell. b.ireland. c1842...died 1904. dennis died 13th jan. 1877. both were living in tyldesley at the times of their deaths

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 12 Apr 2011 17:18

Elaine ... all the info available ... not in dribs and drabs.

When did Denis die? It may be here somewhere but I don't know where.

Then we can look for Bridget Faulkner in the nearest census, etc.



Eringobragh ... Catherine Rice Mahan died in 1868; she ain't nowhere on the 1881 census. I think Denis with his second wife is posted somewhere back, maybe page 1.

edit - I'll repost from p. 2

1871

MAHON, Dennis Head M 36 1835 Ireland
MAHON, Bridget Wife F 36 1835 Ireland
MAHON, Joseph Son M 8 1863 Lancashire
MAHON, Cathrine Daughter F 6 1865 Lancashire
MAHON, Peter Son M 4 1867 Lancashire
MAHON, Ann Daughter F 3 1868 Lancashire - Catherine died in childbirth
MAHON, John Son M 2 1869 Lancashire
MAHON, Mary Daughter F 0 1871 Lancashire
GEETON, Cristopher Lodger M 27 1844 Ireland
HILAND, Patrick Lodger M 30 1841 Ireland
QUIN, Edward Lodger M 27 1844 Ireland
PEARNEY, John Lodger M 35 1836 Ireland

Is this the marriage?

Marriages Sep 1868
Farrell Bridget Wigan 8c 126
Mahan Dennis Wigan 8c 126

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 12 Apr 2011 17:12

Elaine, I didn't bother putting the Kayes name when I posted the 1851 census because Kayes was a lodging house keeper and I didn't imagine there was a connection. I have indeed posted that 1851 census twice, once on this page ...

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 12 Apr 2011 16:39

Elaine....I thought Dennid was the son of Dennis (Co Mayo 1901) sure and dont you know how to confuse me...
Where are Peter and Cath on the 1881 Census (England)..?
So now I am after looking for Dennis Mahon son of Joseph...?

jax

jax Report 12 Apr 2011 16:24

It could be Elaine they did call thier relations different things back then

Son in law could mean step son same as step sister could be sister in law

jax

Elaine

Elaine Report 12 Apr 2011 16:21

i not seen kayes before,so must have diss. b4 i saw it! on dennis' death cert it says his step-sister bridget faulkner was with him....this couldnt be catherines sister could it...sister-in-law,and not step-sister?

jax

jax Report 12 Apr 2011 15:27

Janey has posted it twice and I had given Elaine instructines how to find it because the name Catherine had been spelt Catharine

jax

Joy

Joy Report 12 Apr 2011 15:25

I was sure I had posted this but it must have disappeared in cyberspace!

1851 census
Person: RICE, Catharine
Address: Aswell Lane, Louth

with
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
KAYES, Patrick Head Married M 50 1801 (Lodging House Keeper) Chemist's Porter Ireland, various of his family and several lodgers including
RICE, Catharine Lodger Unmarried F 14 1837 House Serv Ireland
RICE, Bridget Lodger Unmarried F 17 1834 Genl House Serv Out Of Situation Ireland

Elaine

Elaine Report 12 Apr 2011 15:23

ours isnt MC Mahon tho,erin...depending on where it is,its spelt denis;dennis;mahon or mahan or any combination! lol