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JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 3 Apr 2011 22:26

Just keeping it on my radar ... hoping to hear from Annie ...

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 2 Apr 2011 19:32

?? Nobody agreeing, disagreeing ... ?

Come back, Annie! ;)

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 1 Apr 2011 22:52

How's about ...

Marriages Sep 1910
Baker Annie S Newcastle T 10b 207
? Bannon Catherine Newcastle T. 10b 207
Hunter Annie S Newcastle T. 10b 207
?? McMann Thomas Newcastle T 10b 207
Parkin Christopher Newcastle T. 10b 207


So it looks to me like 2 McMahon brothers (Thomas and William) married two Bannon sisters (Catherine and Margaret), and there are births in the list of McMahon-Bannon births belonging to both couples. ;)

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 1 Apr 2011 22:46

1901 household

Name: Thomas McMahon
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas McMahon
Mother's Name: Ann McMahon
Where born: Newcastle Upon Tyne

Civil parish: Benwell
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne

Thomas McMahon 43
Ann McMahon 42
John McMahon 22 (the lodger in 1911)
Peter McMahon 19
James McMahon 17
> Thomas McMahon 12
Edward McMahon 10
Mary McMahon 7
? William McMahon 4
Robert McMahon 8 Months



1901 again

Name: Catherine Bannon ?
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Bannon
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Bannon
Where born: Newcastle Upon Tyne

Civil parish: Benwell
County/Island: Northumberland
Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne

William Bannon 45
Mary Ann Bannon 40
William Bannon 18
James Bannon 15
Bridget Bannon 14
? Catherine Bannon 11
John Joseph Bannon 9
Henry M Bannon 7
Stephen Bannon 5
Francis Bannon 3
? Margaret Bannon 1



>>> The McMahons and Bannons live next door to each other in 1901.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 1 Apr 2011 22:44

It's just that the William McMahon + Bannon marriage was 1919, and there are McMahon-Bannon births before that ... interestingly:

Births Mar 1913
McMahon William H Bannon Newcastle T. 10b 113
Births Sep 1915
McMahon Thomas Bannon Newcastle T 10b 126

... William and Thomas. ;)

Maybe William and Thomas (Srs) were brothers?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Apr 2011 22:41

There is a Mary McMahon mmn Bannon Newcastle but would suggest this is the William and Margaret family too

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 1 Apr 2011 22:30

There are loads of McMahon-Bannon births in Newcastle. Have you not checked them out on FreeBMD?

There's a Mary 1922, for instance.

It's always possible that the marriage wasn't in England, or that the wife had been previously married and didn't marry as Bannon.

The first thing you really need is a child's birth certificate to get the mother's full name. Is it not possible to get Mary's?


Ah, edit -- I see the unfortunate news about Mary.

But a family member does know her date of birth, hopefully.

ann

ann Report 1 Apr 2011 22:30

Elaine no she has dementia.Sorry Annie

ann

ann Report 1 Apr 2011 22:29

ok Janey will be tomorrow now as he was going to bed Thank you all for the help.Will come back tomorrow. Annie

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 1 Apr 2011 22:28

Somebody apparently suggested you withheld info, and then deleted the post ...?

The thing is, you're not giving all the available info. You just rang ... who? Isn't it a good idea to ring people who know things before posting? ;)

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 1 Apr 2011 22:26

Annie, if you could give the birthdate of at least one of the children?

If Mary consented, that would be the surest thing.

That way we could see what the mother's surname on the record is!!

Better still, why not just search for it at FreeBMD yourself, if you have her birthdate? Then you can just tell us the mother's surname.

ann

ann Report 1 Apr 2011 22:25

Sorry i have not with held information i have just rang him Annie

ann

ann Report 1 Apr 2011 22:24

Caroline i have them 8 but there is no Thomas and no Mary.Mary is still alive,so dont think it can be Callaghan.Also another child was called Jean.Perhaps it could be Bannon.I will try down that line. Annie

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 1 Apr 2011 22:21

Name: Catherine Mcmahon
Birth Date: 18 Feb 1889
Death Registration Month/Year: 1971
Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume: 1b
Page: 148

Certainly fits the Catherine in the 1911 census to a T.

crg

crg Report 1 Apr 2011 22:19

hi annie

on freebmd mcmahon and callaghan had 8 children between 1911 and 1927 all born in newcastle ann being one of them.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 1 Apr 2011 22:19

I came up with the same 1911 for McMahon-Callaghan.

Might the Bannon marriage be a second, then?

Not seeing a Catherine McMahon death to fit.

Didn't think Banna was a name ...

ann

ann Report 1 Apr 2011 22:18

Shirley if Callaghan then the first child was James born 1911.Annie

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Apr 2011 22:18

the 1940 birth could be this marriage of parents
Marriages Jun 1919

McMahon William Bannon Newcastle T 10b 296
spouse Margaret Bannon

alviegal

alviegal Report 1 Apr 2011 22:16

This appears to be the McMahon/ Bannon marriage.

Marriages Jun 1919 (>99%)
Angus Margaret A Smith Newcastle T 10b 296 Scan available - click to view
>>Bannon Margaret McMahon Newcastle T. 10b 296 Scan available - click to view
>>McMahon William Bannon Newcastle T 10b 296 Scan available - click to view
Smith Martin J Angus Newcastle T 10b 296


and McMahon/Callaghan.

Marriages Mar 1910 (>99%)
>>Callaghan Catherine Tynemouth 10b 370 Scan available - click to view
GUTHRIE William Prechous Tynemouth 10b 370 Scan available - click to view
>>McMAHON Thomas Tynemouth 10b 370 Scan available - click to view
Stephenson Ida Elizabeth Tynemouth 10b 370 Scan available - click to view
Stephenson John Tynemouth 10b 370

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 1 Apr 2011 22:15

could this be a possible

Name Thomas McMahon
Year of Marriage 1910
Quarter of Marriage Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District Tynemouth
Registration County Northumberland
Spouse's Surname Only available for records after 1912
Volume Number 10B
Volume Page 370