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PricklyHolly
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14 Mar 2011 18:17 |
1871 England Census about William Wood Name: William Wood Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Charlotte Wood Gender: Male Where born: Taunton, Somerset, England Civil parish: St James Town: Taunton County/Island: Somerset Country: England Registration district: Taunton Sub-registration district: Taunton St James Household Members: Name Age William Wood 27 Charlotte Wood 32 William Wood 2
I have just noticed the Civil Parish is St James in the census records, which Henry gives as his place of birth in the 1911!!
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14 Mar 2011 19:05 |
The Bakers staying with Henry Wood and Mary Baker could well be her mother Sarah 1851. sister Annie 1876 and nephew Frederick 1906, don't you think. Could be couldn't ti.
John
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14 Mar 2011 21:05 |
Hi again John...yes it looks like Sarah Ann is Mary Jane Baker's mother....
1891 England Census about Mary Jane Baker Name: Mary Jane Baker Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Sarah Ann Baker Gender: Female Where born: Liskeard, Cornwall, England Civil parish: Taunton St James Ecclesiastical parish: St James Town: Taunton County/Island: Somerset Country: England Registration district: Taunton Sub-registration district: Taunton St James ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Sarah Ann Baker 39 (Married) Mary Jane Baker 17
1881 England Census about Mary Jane Baker Name: Mary Jane Baker Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Geo. Baker Mother's Name: Sarah Ann Baker Gender: Female Where born: Liskard, Cornwall, England Civil parish: Dartmouth St Savior County/Island: Devon Country: England Street Address: New Road Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Totnes Sub-registration district: Dartmouth ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Geo. Baker 44 (Mariner H M S (R N) ) Taunton Somerset Sarah Ann Baker 30 (Wife Of Mariner) Liskard Cornwall Mary Jane Baker 8 Liskard Alfred Henry Baker 5 Liskard Charlotte C.S. Bovey 39 (Boarder, Unmarried)
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14 Mar 2011 21:30 |
As you can see in the above 1881 census, Mary Jane has a brother Alfred Henry.
Alfred Henry Baker married Annie Nickless.....
Marriages Mar 1905 (>99%) BAKER Alfred Henry Bath 5c 899 Nickless Annie Bath 5c 899
They had a son Frederick Henry Baker in 1906
Births Jun 1906 (>99%) Baker Frederick Henry Bath 5c 497
Alfred Henry Baker Died in 1907........
Deaths Sep 1907 (>99%) BAKER Alfred Henry 28 Bath 5c 309
And sooo, Annie Baker in the 1911 census is Mary Jane Wood's widowed sister in law.
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15 Mar 2011 10:22 |
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Elizabeth Cavill Name: Elizabeth Cavill Year of Registration: 1876 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Taunton (1837-1974) County: Devon, Somerset Volume: 5c Page: 389
1891 England Census about Elizabeth Cavill Name: Elizabeth Cavill Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Kingston, Somerset, England Civil parish: Staplegrove Ecclesiastical parish: Staplegrove County/Island: Somerset Country: England
Registration district: Taunton Sub-registration district: Taunton St James ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Joseph Lillycrap 42 Lydia Lillycrap 31 May E Lillycrap 7 Herbert G Lillycrap 6 Frank W Lillycrap 3 Daisy W Lillycrap 2 Gladys V Lillycrap 4/12 Elizabeth Cavill 16 99% Babb Israel Taunton 5c 432 Cavill Elizabeth Taunton 5c 432
1881 England Census about Elizabeth Cavill Name: Elizabeth Cavill Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Israel Babb Mother's Name: Elizabeth Babb Gender: Female Where born: Kingston, Somerset, England Civil parish: Kingston County/Island: Somerset Country: England Street Address: Etheridge Registration district: Taunton Sub-registration district: Taunton St James ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Israel Babb 33 Elizabeth Babb 36 Israel Babb 15 Charles Cavill 13 Jane Cavill 7 Elizabeth Cavill 3 Eliza Babb 2
Deaths Dec 1876 (>99%) Cavill Jacob 32 Taunton 5c 259
1871 England Census about Charles Cavill Name: Charles Cavill Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relation: Son Father's Name: Jacob Cavill Mother's Name: Elizabeth Cavill Gender: Male Where born: Kingston, Somerset, England Civil parish: Kingston County/Island: Somerset Country: England Registration district: Taunton Sub-registration district: Taunton St James Household Members: Name Age Jacob Cavill 32 Elizabeth Cavill 26 Charles Cavill 3 John Beckham 72 (Father in Law) Bickham on the image.
Marriages Jun 1867 (>99%) BICKHAM Elizabeth Taunton 5c 550 CAVILL Jacob Taunton 5c 550
1861 England Census about Elizabeth Bickham Name: Elizabeth Bickham Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Bickham Mother's Name: Ester Bickham Gender: Female Where born: Kingston, Somerset, England Civil parish: Kingston County/Island: Somerset Country: England Registration district: Taunton Sub-registration district: Taunton St James ED, institution, or vessel: 15c Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 11 Household Members: Name Age John Bickham 62 Ester Bickham 58 William Bickham 18 Elizabeth Bickham 15
Deaths Dec 1870 (>99%) BICKHAM Esther 67 Taunton 5c 291
1851 England Census about Elizabeth Bickham Name: Elizabeth Bickham Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Bickham Mother's Name: Esther Bickham Gender: F (Female) Where born: Kingston, Somerset, England Civil parish: Kingston County/Island: Somerset Country: England Registration district: Taunton Sub-registration district: Taunton St James ED, institution, or vessel: 7b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 12 Household Members: Name Age John Bickham 52 Esther Bickham 48 John Bickham 21 Mary Ann Bickham 16 William Bickham 8 Elizabeth Bickham 5
1841 England Census about Esther Bickham Name: Esther Bickham Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804 Gender: Female Where born: Somerset, England Civil parish: Kingston Hundred: Taunton and Taunton Dean County/Island: Somerset Country: England Registration district: Chard Sub-registration district: Ilminster Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Bickham 45 Esther Bickham 37 Lenord Bickham 11 John Bickham 8 Hannah Bickham 7 Mary Bickham 5 Jane Bickham 3 James Bickham 1
John i have just spotted a tree on Ancestry (Owner Mary/Zala Birts Family) that has your Cavill family in their tree. Including lots of photos!!
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John
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15 Mar 2011 16:40 |
Many thanks for all your efforts, you have really helped a great deal.
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John
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15 Mar 2011 16:44 |
The Jacob that I had on the Wood side was in fact on the Cavill side, so this is sorted out. I will add all this info onto my tree in a minute.
Any info on Willaim Wood 1845, and his parents and stuff?
Cheers,
John
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PricklyHolly
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15 Mar 2011 19:48 |
Unfortunately John, there are two 1861 census records for a William Wood, born in Taunton Somerset 1846 and both with a father called John! On one census the father is a Labourer and the other a Carpenter. I think you will have to purchase Williams marriage certificate in the hope that it will reveal Williams fathers occupation.
His marriage details again....
Marriages Sep 1867 (>99%) DOWN Charlotte Ann Taunton 5c 553 Wood William Taunton 5c 553
Here are the two census records for 1861.... (Note the first one is in the parish of St James!!)
1861 England Census about William Wood Name: William Wood Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Wood Mother's Name: Susanna Wood Gender: Male Where born: Taunton; St James, Somerset, England Civil parish: Taunton St James County/Island: Somerset Country: England Household Members: Name Age John Wood 40 (Carpenter) Susanna Wood 39 William Wood 15 (Apprentice) Catherine Wood 14 John Wood 11 Lucy Wood 8 Sarah Wood 6
1861 England Census about William Wood Name: William Wood Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Wood Mother's Name: Ann Wood Gender: Male Where born: Taunton, Somerset, England Civil parish: Taunton St James Town: Taunton County/Island: Somerset Country: England Registration district: Taunton Sub-registration district: Taunton St James ED, institution, or vessel: 1f Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 192 Household Members: Name Age John Wood 45 (Labourer) Ann Wood 54 William Wood 15 (Labourer) John Wood 9 Joseph Wood 30 (Lodger) Interesting???
EDIT: On further inspection of the two 1861 census, which are both in the parish of St James (I missed that the first time round!) the first one , with parents John and Susanna... William is an Apprentice of some sort. This William in the 1871 and 1881 census is a Plumber. On the second one with parents John and Ann, William is a Labourer. In the 1871 census (Married to Charlotte) he is a Masons Labourer. I know this is not a guessing game and the only way to confirm who the father is would be by purchasing the marriage cert. But my "Guess" is, that John and Ann are the parents of william.
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John
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15 Mar 2011 21:28 |
Thanks once again.
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John
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1 Feb 2019 19:47 |
:-)
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Dea
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1 Feb 2019 19:58 |
Hello John -' long time no see' ...................
Did you want some more help on this ?
What is it you need?
Dea x
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John
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9 Feb 2019 12:14 |
Hello Dea,
Very long time no see, but I am returned.
OK then,
My G,G,G,G,G,G,Grandparents are Robert Bickham [c1677], and Elizabeth Cooke [c1681], most likely from the Taunton, Somerset area.
Any ideas please.
Also where is the best place to obtain marriage certificates etc. from.?
Cheers,
John x
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ArgyllGran
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9 Feb 2019 15:41 |
Assuming you mean in England/Wales, marriage certs (from 1837 onwards) from here:
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
Earlier than 1837, you won't find a marriage cert as such, but maybe a parish record.
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9 Feb 2019 15:45 |
Marriage entry While we have made all efforts to correctly record the information in the original document there may be different interpretations of the written words. If you have access to the original document and believe we have made a mistake you are encouraged to report this to us. Report an Error in this Data Field (only fields with a value are shown) Value County Somerset Place Cothelstone Church name St Thomas of Canterbury Register type Parish Register Marriage date 25 Mar 1697 Groom forename Robert Groom surname BICKHAM Groom parish Kingston Bride forename Elizabeth Bride surname COOK Bride parish Kingston Notes (It also says "married in Kingston church" but is entered here) Transcribed by Andy Phillips Credit Martin Southwood File line number 56
https://www.freereg.org.uk/
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ArgyllGran
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9 Feb 2019 15:50 |
For helpers' reference:
Robert Bickham in the Somerset, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1531-1812 Name: Robert Bickham [Robertus Bickham] Gender: Male Event Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 25 Mar 1697 Marriage Place: Kingston St Mary, Somerset, England Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Spouse: Elizabeth Cooke
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9 Feb 2019 15:55 |
Are you looking for ancestors or descendants of Robert and Elizabeth?
They had several children, but I assume you already know about them?
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John
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10 Feb 2019 18:53 |
Ancesters if pos.
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ArgyllGran
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10 Feb 2019 19:05 |
I fear you'll be out of luck.
There don't seem to be any birth/baptism records for Kingston St Mary as early as Robert or Elizabeth's births would have been.
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John
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10 Feb 2019 19:28 |
they has 11 children
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ErikaH
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11 Feb 2019 09:15 |
Knowing how many children they produced doesn't help with finding their ancestors, I'm afraid
You have probably been taken back as far as it is possible to go. You are very lucky to have got back as far as you have
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