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Mel Fairy Godmother
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7 Mar 2011 12:41 |
Alberts Death
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Albert Bambridge Name: Albert Bambridge Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Year of Registration: 1885 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at Death: 38 District: Dunmow County: Essex Volume: 4a Page: 329
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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7 Mar 2011 12:36 |
This is Sarah the mother on the 1891 census mistranscribed as Bainbridge. You will also see she has a daughter Rose who is a General Servant. Could this be the Rose Bambridge who is a witness on Elizabeth's wedding?
1891 England Census about Ethel Bainbridge Name: Ethel Bainbridge Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Sarah Bainbridge Gender: Female Where born: Little Bardfield, Essex, England Civil parish: Great Bardfield Ecclesiastical parish: Great Bardfield Town: Great Bardfield County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Dunmow Sub-registration district: Stebbing ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Sarah Bainbridge 45 Arthur Bainbridge 16 Rose Bainbridge 14 Alfred Bainbridge 10 Ethel Bainbridge 9
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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7 Mar 2011 12:20 |
Right I think I may have found her!!
ELIZABETH EMILY BAMBRIDGE Pedigree Female Birth: Christening: 26 JAN 1873 Great Bardfield, Essex, England Parents: Father: ALBERT BAMBRIDGE Family Mother: SARAH Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
and a brother.
ARTHUR BAMBRIDGE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 29 NOV 1874 Great Bardfield, Essex, England
1881 England Census about Albert Bambridge Name: Albert Bambridge Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Bambridge Gender: Male Where born: Lt Bardfield, Essex, England Civil parish: Little Bardfield County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address: Church End Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Farm Labour Registration district: Dunmow Sub-registration district: Thaxted ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Albert Bambridge 34 Sarah Bambridge 36 Emily Bambridge 8 Arthur Bambridge 6 Alfred Bambridge Hannah Newman 75 MOTHER IN LAW --------------------------------------------------- England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 about Albert Bambridge Name: Albert Bambridge Year of Registration: 1872 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Dunmow County: Essex Volume: 4a Page: 471 Albert Bambridge 1872 Dunmow Essex Sarah Newman 1872 Dunmow Essex 1871 England Census about Albert Bambridge Name: Albert Bambridge Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation: Brother Gender: Male Where born: Great Bardfield, Essex, England Civil parish: Little Bardfield Ecclesiastical parish: Rochester County/Island: Essex Country: England Registration district: Dunmow Sub-registration district: Thaxted ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household schedule number: 62 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Bambridge 38 Mary Bambridge 39 Sarah Bambridge 16 Oliver Bambridge 39 BROTHER Widowed Albert Bambridge 28 BROTHER Single
All born Great Bardfield
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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7 Mar 2011 11:50 |
1891 England Census about Eliza Bent Name: Eliza Bent [Eliza Burt?] Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874 Relation: Inmate Gender: Female Where born: Peckham, London, England Civil parish: Camberwell Ecclesiastical parish: Camberwell St Giles Town: Dulwich County/Island: London Country: England Occupation: None
Condition as to marriage: Single Registration district: Camberwell Sub-registration district: Camberwell ED, institution, or vessel: Camberwell Infirmary
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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6 Mar 2011 18:17 |
George Davis Pedigree Male Family Event(s): Birth: 1833 Wanstead, Essex, England Marriages: Spouse: Jane Spencer Family Marriage: 06 JAN 1858 Wanstead, Essex, England England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 Name: George Davis Year of Registration: 1858 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: West Ham County: Essex, Greater London Volume: 4a Page: 29 George Davis 1858 West Ham Essex, Greater London Jane Spencer 1858 West Ham Essex, Greater London
Poss death England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about George Davis Name: George Davis Year of Registration: 1865 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: West Ham County: Essex, Greater London Volume: 4a Page: 35 Shame there is no age on it. ------------------------------------------- Just out of interest Leytonstone is only one stop on the central line from Wanstead.
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hsj76
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6 Mar 2011 18:15 |
Your name is so so very true ... this is more than I could have dreamed of ... especially from a complete stranger! I can't thank you enough Mel.
I will have a better read after dinner, digest the info and get back to you by PM.
Thanks again!
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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6 Mar 2011 17:58 |
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 about Jane Davis Name: Jane Davis Year of Registration: 1869 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: West Ham County: Essex, Greater London Volume: 4a Page: 61 John Bainbridge 1869 West Ham Essex, Greater London Jane Davis 1869 West Ham Essex, Greater London
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6 Mar 2011 17:52 |
1881 England Census about Charles Davis Name: Charles Davis Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Servant Gender: Male Where born: Wanstead, Essex, England Civil parish: Leyton Low County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address: High St Hertford House Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Carman Registration district: West Ham Sub-registration district: Leyton ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Cullen 42 BAKER AND CONFECTIONER Ann Cullen 42 Annie Cullen 19 William Cullen 18 Lottie Cullen 14 Frederick W. Cullen 11 Lenie Cullen 9 Rose Mumford 14 William Holloway 19 W.T. Burr 20 **********William Burt a Baker??????? born Kent Charles Davis 19 1862 Wanstead Essex
Used to go to Wanstead in my youth!! Lived in Redbridge one stop on the train down from Wanstead E 11.
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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6 Mar 2011 17:22 |
1891 England Census about Jane Bambridge Name: Jane Bambridge [Jane Davis] Age: 54 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Essex, England Civil parish: Leyton Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address:
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Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: West Ham Sub-registration district: Leyton ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Jane Bambridge 54 1837 Widow born Essex? Ernest Bambridge 21 1870 Wanstead Essex Emily Bambridge 19 1872 Wanstead Essex Elizabeth Bambridge 11 1880 Leytonstone Essex Florence Bambridge 9 1882 Leytonstone Essex Charles Bambridge 29 single 1862 Wanstead Essex Jane Bambridge 26 single 1865 Wanstead Essex
Ernest Davis 1 Grandson**** Homerton Charles is down as Davis and not as transcribed and so is Jane.
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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6 Mar 2011 17:05 |
Todays findings and the message sent to Helen.
I helped on your thread yesterday and have been trying to find Eliza with her parents for you all day. Still no luck!!
On the 1901 census you say she is with her sister. This could be her sister in law. Jane was married to Robert Martin in London, his father being Lewis Martin of Suffolk.
Is also says on the 1901 census that Eliza Burt is single, it dos'nt say widow.
1901 England Census about Jane Martin Name: Jane Martin Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Smithfield, London, England Civil parish: Wickham Skeith Ecclesiastical parish: Wickham Skeith St Andrew Town: Wickham Skeith County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street Address: Registration district: Hartismere Sub-registration district: Mendlesham ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 41 Household Members: Name Age Jane Martin 32 Lily Martin 6 May Martin 4 Robert Martin 3 Eliza Burt 27 Peckham Surrey
Now Eliza says she is from Peckham Surrey but that could have just been where she has come from and not where she was born!
My question is could she have been a Bainbridge? and it was read as Bambridge?
I have also looked for an AlbertBamnbridge/Bainbridge and cannot find one! I did find a John Bambridge married to a Jane and this census reads John but is transcribed as Albert but has been corrected by a David Bambridge last year hence the name change in brackets.
1881 England Census about Albert Bambridge Name: Albert Bambridge [John Bambridge] Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane Bambridge Gender: Male Where born: Linsell, Essex, England Civil parish: Leyton County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address: Park Road Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Labourer Registration district: West Ham Sub-registration district: Leyton ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Albert Bambridge 50 Jane Bambridge 43 1838 born Cambridge Ernest Bambridge 11 Emily Bambridge 9 Esther Bambridge 2 RG11; Piece: 1726; Folio: 34; Page: 28
I also found a marriage between a Jane Davis and John Bambridge in 1869 but I think Jane was a widow as on one census she is with a child of hers under the name of Charles Davis 1862.
I shall put this info on your thread and see if anyone else can find this and work it out. --------------------------------------------------------
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Jane Margaret Burt Name: Jane Margaret Burt Spouse Name: Robert Martin Spouse Age: Full Age Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 30 Apr 1893 Parish: St John the Evangelist, Walworth County: Surrey Borough: Southwark Father Name: William Burt SAFE MAKER Spouse Father Name: Lewis Martin GENERAL DEALER Both their addresses are the same 5 Cotham St Witnesses were John Tibbels and Eliza Burt.
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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5 Mar 2011 19:13 |
Now this is not definate but here is a death of an Albert at 38 so I wonder if the mother married again and the children are under her new married name??
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Albert Bambridge Name: Albert Bambridge Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Year of Registration: 1885 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at Death: 38 District: Dunmow County: Essex Volume: 4a Page: 329
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hsj76
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5 Mar 2011 19:08 |
James and Frederick are verbal leads and liekwise I am struggling to find anything for Eliza before her marriage.
I am trying to find out of there is any truth in the two children, but have so far drawn a blank. But being so new I didn't know if it was me being blond!
Thanks for all your help guys!
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MargaretM
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5 Mar 2011 19:03 |
I can't find any records of James and Frederick, neither births nor census.
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RutlandBelle
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5 Mar 2011 18:59 |
so can I ask how you know about James and Frederick.?
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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5 Mar 2011 18:55 |
I looked up the marriage and saw the actual form with all the details on it. thats how I found the witnesses.
Am having trouble finding Elizabeth before her marriage though.
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MargaretM
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5 Mar 2011 18:50 |
The names of the witnesses are on the original of the marriage record on London Parish Records on Ancestry.
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hsj76
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5 Mar 2011 18:49 |
RutlandBelle - Benjamin Blake was born in Thornham Magna on 20.04.1875. He married twice that I am aware of - once to Eliza in 1902 and then to Ethel Lummis (Nee Davey) in 1907. I have the 1911 Census Record, this is where I found that Benjamin and Eliza had had 2 children - Violet and Cissy .... it's Eliza's former life that causing me the confusion as James and Frederick do not show as being with Eliza in the 1901 Census (where Eliza is living with her sister Jane in Wickham Skeith). History hey!!!!
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5 Mar 2011 18:44 |
when and where was BenjaminBlake born and I'll have a look on 1911 census to see if the children are with him
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hsj76
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5 Mar 2011 18:40 |
Mel - can I ask a silly question pls (yes, I am a newbie!) - where do you find the witnesses from?
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5 Mar 2011 18:39 |
RutlandBelle - doh!
Eliza died in 1907, I believe of Meningitis and I am guessing it would have been near Thornham Magna / Wickham Skeith in Suffolk (where all my family are from). Eliza moved to Suffolk following the death of William (at which point I can find no trace of the children!), she remarried in 1902 to Benjamin Blake (my GG Grandfather).
I have death records for William Burt - Jul / Aug / Sept 1900 Wandsworth.
MadBull - thanks for the info ... you haven't stumbled on birth records at all in your search have you?
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