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William James Bertie Long - 05/02/1916

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Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 28 Feb 2011 17:17

Hi my father is William (Bill) above. He passed away 19/09/2010 - in Grasmere Nursing home, Worthing, West Sussex.

I am in Australia and have only had very sporadic contact (via phone and email) with him over the years - since I tracked him down in 1997. I don't know much family history - except for his parents names.

I am desperately wanting to get in touch with a cousin - I believe her name is Catherine, although I'm not 100%.

Bill had a sister, and her daughter, his niece would be my cousin. I anticipate she would be aprox 50-60 now. I don't believe she had any children.

She is the only living relative I know of on my father's side.

My mother worked for and had a relationship with my father (Bill was an Osteopath and Medical herbalist - registered with the National Institute of Medical herbalists) while on a working holiday in the UK during 1977. (There was a large age gap)

His name isn't on my birth certificate, as she wanted to spare him of being chased for child support.

They wrote until I was 7 - and his new partner was jealous of Mum sending photos and voice tapes to him, and they lost contact. I tracked him down when I was 19, and we emailed and spoke on the phone occasionally... but he never agreed to do DNA testing to prove I was his and have his name put on my birth certificate... I just wanted to feel connected to that part of my family...

I rang him for his birthday on 05/02/11 (yes he would have been 95) only to find that he had passed away in September.

Kay Burton, the executor of his will, and cleaning lady for over 20 years, had promised to let me know when he passed, but she didn't. She claims she wrote to me in December, but it never arrived.

I have spoken with her, and she refuses to help me with family history or to put me in touch with his next of kin - his niece - Catherine I think her name is. She states he wasn't close with her.

I have seen his flat up for sale online (5 Ariel Court, Brighton Rd, Sompting Lancing BN15 8RQ) - and I wonder if she thinks I am looking for an inheritance... Kay has been unnecessarily aggressive and thus I am a bit stuck... Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated! :-)

His parents name - Alfred Henry William Long and Mary Davis. His father was a Motor Cab Proprietor (according to his birth cert)

I believe he married once or poss twice before my mother came along, but I don't know of any other living children. I believe he had a son that was either still born or passed away as a baby.

From what he said I don't think his niece has children either.

He was cremated and his service was on 27/09/10 at Worthing Crematorium. The obituary says he was dealt with through Dunford Funeral Service.

Given I don't know Catherine's surname or really any other details, how would I go about tracking her down?

I believe she has no idea I exist, but I would like to rectify that, as I want to know more about my roots and find out if I have any living relatives on his side.

Please feel free to ask questions or provide suggestions.
Thanks heaps.
I am in Australia and ought to be sleeping, so if I take a while to get back to you I do apologise.

Thanks
Liz

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Feb 2011 17:26

His parents marriage
Name: Alfred Henry W Long
Year of Registration: 1909
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Stepney (To 1921)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 397
spouse Mary Davis

Maddie

Maddie Report 28 Feb 2011 17:29

parents marraige
Marriages Mar 1909 (>99%)
DAVIS Mary Stepney 1c 397 Scan available - click to view
LONG Alfred Henry W Stepney 1c 397 Scan available - click to view

**Ann**

**Ann** Report 28 Feb 2011 17:30

A starting point for reference


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1909 (>99%)
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DAVIS Mary Stepney 1c 397
LONG Alfred Henry W Stepney 1c 397

Mike *

Mike * Report 28 Feb 2011 17:33

Was his sister older ?
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Births Mar 1916 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Long William J B -Davis - Paddington 1a 95


Maybe Look for parents in 1911 census, they may have a daughter with them

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Feb 2011 17:34

so dads birth
Name: LONG, William J B
Registration District: Paddington
County: London
Year of Registration: 1916
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Davis
Volume No: 1A
Page No: 95

Edward

Edward Report 28 Feb 2011 17:35

It might be worth contacting the Grasmere Nursing Home to ask if they can share details of his relatives that they may have in his records. Patient confidentiality shouldn't be an issue in relation to a deceased person.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Feb 2011 17:40

possible birth of the father
Name: Alfred Henry W Long
Year of Registration: 1883
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Kensington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 164

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Feb 2011 17:45

Not finding them on the 1911 census

Maddie

Maddie Report 28 Feb 2011 17:50

1891 - a possible for ALFRED
LONG, Martha M Head Widow F 49 1842 Charwoman
London VIEW
LONG, Louise Daughter Single F 19 1872 Charwoman
Kingston
Surrey VIEW
LONG, Elizabeth Daughter F 4 1887 Scholar
Kensington
London VIEW
LONG, Lillie E Daughter F 1 1890 Scholar
Kensington
London VIEW
LONG, Alfred Son M 9 1882 Scholar
Kensington
London VIEW
RG number:
RG12 Piece:
27 Folio:
145 Page:
75

Registration District:
Kensington Sub District:
Kensington Town Enumeration District:
49 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Christchurch

Civil Parish:
Kensington Municipal Borough:
Address:
35, Wheatstone Road, Kensington County:
London

Helen

Helen Report 28 Feb 2011 17:52


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Mary Davis
Name: Mary Davis
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Spouse Name: Alfred Henry William Long
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 28 Mar 1908
Parish: St John of Wapping
County: London
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: William Davis
Spouse Father Name: Alfred Long

Helen

Helen Report 28 Feb 2011 17:55


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Alfred Henry William Long
Name: Alfred Henry William Long
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1883
Baptism Date: 2 Sep 1883
Father's Name: Alfred Long
Mother's Name: Julia Maria Long
Parish or Poor Law Union: Chelsea St Luke
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea

Maddie

Maddie Report 28 Feb 2011 17:55

1881 FOR ABOVE FAMILY
LONG, John Head Married M 37 1844 Laborer
Wiltshire VIEW
LONG, Martha Wife Married F 35 1846
Barbican
Middlesex VIEW
LONG, John W Son Single M 15 1866
Kingston
Surrey VIEW
LONG, Louisa Daughter Single F 9 1872
Kingston
Surrey VIEW
LONG, Emily Daughter Single F 6 1875
Kingston
Surrey VIEW
LONG, Elizabeth M Daughter Single F 1 1880
Mile End
Middlesex VIEW
LONG, Charles Son Single M 8 1873
Kingston
Surrey VIEW
RG number:
RG11 Piece:
34 Folio:
47 Page:
48

Registration District:
Kensington Sub District:
Kensington Town Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Kensington Municipal Borough:
Address:
17, Silchester Terr, Kensington County:
Middlesex

Mike *

Mike * Report 28 Feb 2011 18:22

Father Alfred

Births Sep 1883 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Long Alfred Henry W - Kensington 1a 164

**Ann**

**Ann** Report 28 Feb 2011 18:32

Do you think this may be them???



1911 census - household transcription
Person: LONG DAUGHTER, Mary
Address: 107 Old Garvel Lane St Georges E

Cost:
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census search results 1911 address search redefine current search
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

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DAVIS, William Head Widower M 72 1839 Baker London St Georges E VIEW
DAVIS, Bem Son Single M 24 1887 Com Dealer London St Georges E VIEW
LONG SON IN LAW, Alf Father Married M 28 1883 Baker Seby London St Georges E VIEW
LONG DAUGHTER, Mary Mother Married
3 years F 28 1883 London St Georges E VIEW
LONG GRAND DAUGHTER, Mary Baby F 1 1910 London St Georges E VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1526 Reference:
RG14PN1526 RG78PN53 RD19 SD1 ED28 SN54

Registration District:
St George in the East Sub District:
St George and St John Enumeration District:
28 Parish:
St George in the East

Address:
107 Old Garvel Lane St Georges E County:
London

Helen

Helen Report 28 Feb 2011 18:38

It must be them Ann, father William was a baker on the marriage cert.

Lynne From Up North !!

Lynne From Up North !! Report 28 Feb 2011 19:14

Helen,

Do you have access to all births and marriages in the London area? Would it be possible to look for Mary's birth c1910?

Lynne

Helen

Helen Report 28 Feb 2011 19:22


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Mary Julia C Long
Name: Mary Julia C Long
Year of Registration: 1909
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: St George in The East
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 254 (click to see others on page)

I would think its this one, as Julia was Alfreds mothes name.

Helen

Helen

Helen Report 28 Feb 2011 19:26

Looks like three possible children to her marriage, Catherine being one of them.

Lynne From Up North !!

Lynne From Up North !! Report 28 Feb 2011 19:26

Thanks, it may help in finding a marriage for her, if she married and then any children!

Just off for a look.