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Hi just wanted to say thank you, for the census details.

Regards
Tom

Here it is in fmp. You should also be able to view it on https://www.familysearch.org/ Just put his name, West Ham, Essex and 1881 and it will come up.

BROWN, Henry Head Married M 38 1843 Porter
Londonderry
Ireland VIEW
BROWN, Care Wife Married F 35 1846
Bur Green
Cambridgeshire VIEW
BROWN, Cathe Daughter Single F 14 1867
Bur Green
Cambridgeshire VIEW
BROWN, Henry Son Single M 10 1871 Scholar
London
Middlesex VIEW
RG number:
RG11 Piece:
1710 Folio:
34 Page:
67

Registration District:
West Ham Sub District:
West Ham Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
West Ham Municipal Borough:
Address:
71, Howards Rd, West Ham County:
Essex

Help Please.
I am trying to look at the original census record for Henry Brown DOB 1843, Born Ireland, Living in West Ham on the 1881 censusat No 71 but when I click on to view the household record the wrong page comes up.It doesnt go as far as no 71. Any suggestions on how I can get to see it.
Thanks
Elaine

1911 census Address: 8 Herbert Road Clacton on Sea

PIKE, James Benjamin Head Married M 32 1879 Boatman Stepney London
PIKE, Clara Jane Wife Married 7 years F 35 1876 Wife Stoke Newington London
PIKE, Gwendolyn Lydia Daughter F 6 1905 Nil Clacton on Sea Essex
PIKE, Arthur James Willis Son M 2 1909 Nil Clacton on Sea Essex
PIKE, Helena Sister Single F 36 1875 Domestic Servant Stepney London
ALDRED, Cyril Stanley Boarder Single M 23 1888 Shop Assistant China Shop Ipswich Suffolk
POLLARD, Ivy Vera Helen Servant Single F 17 1894 General Servant Domestic Debenham Suffolk

1911 census Address: 117 Church Road Teddington

DAGWELL, Henry Head Married 33 years M 55 1856 Engine Driver Launch Middlx West Drayton
DAGWELL, Emily Wife Married F 51 1860 Surrey Chertory

1911 census Address: 123 Coningham Road W

TURNER, Carlton Bother Single M 13 1898 Scholar Teddington Middlesex
TURNER, Theresa Sister Single F 26 1885 Brighton Sussex
TURNER, Lilla Head Single F 34 1877 Dressmaker Croydon Surrey

.......also at the address, but seperate household.............................................

HOWARD, Mary Widow Widow F 86 1825 Private Means Pensioner St Pancras London
HOWARD, William Son Single M 56 1855 Bootmaker St James London

I am sorry to ask again but the family in the 1881 census aren't right. Henry C was killed in the war and my Henry wasn't.
The above Harry is the only one I can find in the Roayl Irish Regt.
Thank you
Elaine

I have found another Harry Brown in The Royal Irish Regiment.

There are 4 addresses on his file.
123 Coningham Rd Shepherdsbush

117 Church Road Teddington Mddsx

c/o Mrs Eli Holly or Holby, Derryhill W Calne Wiltshire

8 Herbert Road Clacton on Sea

Would someone be kind enough to look at the 1911 census for any or all of these addresses and tell me who was living there.

Thanks Elaine

Thank you for these.
I will order certificates and see what that produces.

Thank you to everyone who has tried to help.

Elaine

possibly ?

1881

BROWN, Henry Head Married M 37 1844 General Labourer
Southwark
Surrey VIEW
BROWN, Mary A Wife Married F 33 1848 Hat Trimmer
Southwark
Surrey VIEW
BROWN, Henry C Son Single M 5 1876
Southwark
Surrey VIEW
BROWN, John Son Single M 0 1881
Southwark
Surrey VIEW

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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
526 Folio:
41 Page:
17

Registration District:
St Saviour Southwark Sub District:
Borough Road Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
St George the Martyr Southwark Municipal Borough:
Address:
98, Gt Suffolk St, St George The Martyr Southwark County:
Surrey



1891

BROWN, Mary Ann Head Married F 44 1847 Charwoman
Southwark
London VIEW
BROWN, Joseph Son M 6 1885 Scholar
Southwark
London VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
346 Folio:
164 Page:
27

Registration District:
St Saviour Southwark Sub District:
Borough Road Enumeration District:
6 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Michaels

Civil Parish:
St George the Martyr Southwark Municipal Borough:
London Address:
91, Great Suffolk Street, St George The Martyr Southwark, London County:
London

The 1901 census was undertaken on 2nd April.

I Have just about given up any hope of finding them.
Do you know when the 1901 census was taken?
Perhaps his Mother died or moved between him joining the Army and the census being taken.

Elaine

Harris and Woodhouse at 3 Lansdowne Place in 1911

Beckhams and Gales at 28 Law St in 1911 (Catherine and George, not David and Victoria lol)

His address when he got married was 3 Alice Street. He was married at St Mary Magdalin, 25/12/1912. He gives his Father as Henry Deceased, A Porter. His occupation was a Carman but I think that can also mean a Costermonger.
His Address in 1916 when he rejoined the army was 28 Law Street.
On 25th April 1901 he gave his age as 18 years 5 months, Occupation Carman, Born in Southwark, co of Surrey.
He gives his next of kin as his mother Mary Ann Brown, and his Elder brother Harry Brown, Royal Irish Regiment.
There is another address on his discharge document in 1919 of 3 Lansdowne Place but no address for when he joined.
Because his Fathers name was Henry we did think Harry might be Henry but thought we would exhaust the Harry's first.
Thank you for your help.
Elaine

Neither names appear at those addresses in Alice Street Bermondsey in 1911

ns, 1754-1921 Results
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Sophia Annie Noble
Name: Sophia Annie Noble 49 Alice St. general dealer
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Spouse Name: Joseph Brown 3 Alice St ,Porter
Spouse Age: 28
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1912
Parish: St Mary Magdalen, Bermondsey
County: Surrey
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: John Noble gen dealer
Spouse Father Name: Henry Brown deceased Porter

wit George Noble , younger brother
Sophia Elizabeth Green

Who did Joseph marry in 1912?

Presumably the marriage cert also lists Joseph's father's occupation. Was Joseph in the miltary when he married or does the marriage cert list another occupation?

Have you considered that Harry might actually have been a pet name for Henry?

When did Joseph join the Army?