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Lily's birth on GRO site, which wasn't available in 2011, proves her birth was illegitimate:

DANIEL, LILY ELIZABETH ROGERS -
GRO Reference: 1893 J Quarter in THE FLEGGS Volume 04B Page 46


And Walter's birth, which fits with info given by Maryb in 2011 - middle name isn't James as stated by Moira:

DYBLE, WALTER JOHN mmn BROWN
GRO Reference: 1888 D Quarter in THE FLEGGS Volume 04B Page 35

Moira didn’t bother to return to this thread 10 years ago, so isn’t likely to see your posts.
Click on the name ‘Bruce’ and send a contact message. If the poster’s e-mail hasn’t changed in all this time, GR will notify your interest

PS My late father did our family tree (my Mum Beryl's maiden name is Bell), & it says Walter James' wife Lily's parents are Mr Crow who married a Daniels. (Ormesby farming man) Maybe I'll discover you are related to the lovely lady I knew from the bank, Helen Daniels?

Hello Moira, I searched Walter Dyble ..my great grandfather (his late daughter, also Lily is my nana Bell) & this question from you came up. Are you related to Walter or his wife Lily (my great granny Dyble, who I used to see at Cali, Scratby) :-)

Births Jun 1893 (>99%)
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Daniel Lily Elizabeth R Flegg 4b 46


Chris :)



1891 (Lily's Mother Ella)

DANIELS, Johnathan Head Married M 60 1831 Fisherman
Scratby
Norfolk VIEW
DANIELS, Elizabeth Wife Married F 39 1852
Ormesby
Norfolk VIEW
DANIELS, Ella E Daughter Single F 23 1868
Ormesby
Norfolk VIEW

RG number:
RG12 Piece:
1504 Folio:
53 Page:
8

Registration District:
Flegg Sub District:
East Flegg Enumeration District:
4 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Deanery of Flegg

Civil Parish:
Municipal Borough:
Address:
California, Ormesby St Margaret With Scratby County:
Norfolk




Marriages Sep 1895 (>99%)
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Crow John William H Flegg 4b 63
Daniels Ella Elizabeth Flegg 4b 63



1911 (Lily's Mother)

CROW, John William H Head Married M 42 1869 Team Man On Farm Little Ormesby Norfolk VIEW
CROW, Ella Wife Married
15 years F 42 1869 Gt Ormesby Norfolk VIEW
CROW, John Son M 11 1900 School Ormesby Norfolk VIEW
CROW, Robert M 2 1909 Ormesby Norfolk VIEW
CROW, Susanah Daughter F 13 1898 Ormesby Norfolk VIEW
CROW, Rose Daughter F 9 1902 Ormesby Norfolk VIEW
DANIEL, Jonathan Father Widower M 82 1829 Old Age Pensioner Ormesby Norfolk VIEW

RG number:
RG14 Piece:
11115 Reference:
RG14PN11115 RG78PN603 RD220 SD2 ED3 SN181

Registration District:
Flegg Sub District:
West Flegg Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
Hemsby

Address:
Ormesby Road Hemsby County:
Norfolk

1901 poss for Walter



census - household transcription
Person: DYBLE, Walter
Address: Scratby, Ormesby St Margaret With Scratby, Ormesby St Margaret

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census search results 1901 address search redefine current search
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
image

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BROWN, Thomas Head Widower M 69 1832 Fisherman
Winterton
Norfolk VIEW
DYBLE, Walter Grand Son Single M 14 1887 Fisherman
Scratby
Norfolk VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
1816 Folio:
45 Page:
10

Registration District:
Flegg Sub District:
East Flegg Enumeration District:
3 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Ormesby St Margarets with Scratby

Civil Parish:
Ormesby St Margaret with Scratby Municipal Borough:
Address:
Scratby, Ormesby St Margaret With Scratby, Ormesby St Margaret County:
Norfolk

1901 sister Jane (above 1911)



census - household transcription
Person: DYBLE, Jane C
Address: Scratby, Ormesby St Margaret With Scratby, Ormesby St Margaret

Cost:
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census search results 1901 address search redefine current search
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
image

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DYBLE, Eliza C Wife Married F 32 1869
Scratby
Norfolk VIEW
DYBLE, Frederick J Son M 14 1887 Fisherman
Scratby
Norfolk VIEW
DYBLE, Jane C Daughter F 10 1891
Scratby
Norfolk VIEW
DYBLE, Solomon Son M 8 1893
Caister
Norfolk VIEW
DYBLE, Susannah E Daughter F 6 1895
Scratby
Norfolk VIEW
DYBLE, Zelia Daughter F 4 1897
Scratby
Norfolk VIEW
DYBLE, Gertrude A Daughter F 2 1899
Scratby
Norfolk VIEW
DYBLE, Alice Daughter F 0 (8 MOS) 1901
Scratby
Norfolk VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
1816 Folio:
46 Page:
11

Registration District:
Flegg Sub District:
East Flegg Enumeration District:
3 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Ormesby St Margarets with Scratby

Civil Parish:
Ormesby St Margaret with Scratby Municipal Borough:
Address:
Scratby, Ormesby St Margaret With Scratby, Ormesby St Margaret County:
Norfolk

Info off Ancestry says parents James Stephen Dyble born Winterton Norfolk 1868 -1893 and Eliza Caroline Brown 1869 .Please double check info.

Walter JOHN Dyble born oct 1888 flegg Norfolk.

1871 James Dyble 1868 son of mary Ann 1844 waxham Norfolk

Mary ann daniels married thomas Dyble Tunstead Norfolk A/M/J 1862 4b 73.

James Stephen Dyble married in Flegg Oct 1886.

Maryb

Pos1891 census - household transcription
Person: DYBALL, Walter J
Address: Ormesby Gap, Caister

Cost:
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census search results 1891 address search redefine current search
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
image

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DYBALL, Eliza C Head Married F 22 1869
Scratby
Norfolk VIEW
DYBALL, Frederick J Son M 4 1887
Scratby
Norfolk VIEW
DYBALL, Walter J Son M 3 1888
Scratby
Norfolk VIEW
DYBALL, James Son M 0 (3M) 1891
Caister
Norfolk VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
1504 Folio:
18 Page:
30

Registration District:
Flegg Sub District:
East Flegg Enumeration District:
1 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Deanery of Flegg

Civil Parish:
Municipal Borough:
Address:
Ormesby Gap, Caister County:
Norfolk



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census search
sible???

Possibly with gramps in 1901:

DANIELS, John Head Married M 70 1831 Agricultural Labourer Ormesby St Margt Norfolk
DANIELS, Elizabeth Wife Married F 70 1831 Ormesby St Margt Norfolk
DANIELS, Lillie E Grand Daughter F 7 1894 Ormesby St Margt Norfolk
CROWE, Susannah M Grand Daughter F 3 1898 Hemsby Norfolk

Registration District: Flegg Sub District: East Flegg Enumeration District: 3A
Ecclesiastical Parish: Ormesby St Margarets with Scratby & St Michael

Civil Parish: Ormesby St Margaret with Scratby M

Address: Wapping, Ormesby St Margaret With Scratby
County: Norfolk

I don't have a subscription to FMP but in 1891 it shows a L Daniels, b 1889 Norwich Norfolk

Maybe someone can check this out

Regards

Margaret

Moira, surest way is to buy marriage certificate to get their father's names and occupations.

Edit: In view of baptism that safc posted it's unlikely there'd be a father's name for Lily on marriage cert.

????

Name: Lily Elizabeth Daniels
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 06 Aug 1893
Baptism/Christening Place: Ormesby St. Margaret, Norfolk, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Ella Elizabeth Daniels
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I07341-2
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1472782
Reference Number: 1247
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

1911 for reference:

DYBLE, Walter Head Married M 22 1889 Fisherman California Norfolk
DYBLE, Lily Wife Married F 19 1892 California Norfolk
DYBLE, Jane Sister Single F 19 1892 California Norfolk

Registration District: Flegg Sub District: East Flegg Enumeration District: 7 Parish: Ormesby St Margaret with Scratby

Address: California Ormesby St Margaret County: Norfolk

They are saying under one year married, no children

I am trying to find the parents of Lily Elizabeth Daniels born in the California area of Norfolk in 1889, she married Walter James Dyble born 1888 in oct nov dec 1910. have searched for 1911 cencus and found results but nothing before that in the 1901 or 1891.


I am having trouble finding parents of her husband Walter, only the same search results, can any one help. please

moira