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16 Feb 2011 15:27 |
Ok fans you can have a little bit of the credit lol
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MaureeninNY
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16 Feb 2011 15:26 |
Halo polish where it's due! Hands it over to Fans.
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Alice Pescott Name: Alice Pescott Age: 23 Estimated birth year: abt 1885 Spouse Name: Albert Henry Landell Spouse Age: 25 Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 29 Nov 1908 Parish: St Ann, Tottenham County: London Borough: Haringey Father Name: George Pescott butcher deceased Spouse Father Name: Henry Hugh Landell
Emily didn't even try to bluff her way through-no father's name at all on the marriage cert: London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Emily Pescott Name: Emily Pescott Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1882 Spouse Name: Frederick Devan Spouse Age: 25 Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 23 Oct 1902 Parish: St Mark, Myddelton Square County: London Borough: Islington Spouse Father Name: Frederick Devan
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16 Feb 2011 15:19 |
Cough cough...Who found the "Pescott" 1901 lot to set you all on the trail then...?
Polish,polish,pat ,pat..
But well done you other lot.....I suppose.
At least he knew who his father was it would seem...Like my Nan..And did the same as her by juggling the surname of father on marriage cert to be the same as his...
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MaureeninNY
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16 Feb 2011 15:15 |
The more I look,the more I think that name really should be Pescott!
Look at all those matching births in Islington!
Births Sep 1883 PESCOTT Annie Martin Islington 1b 411
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16 Feb 2011 14:45 |
I agree Maureen now you found who was living at that address in 1901
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MaureeninNY
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16 Feb 2011 14:41 |
So where is George in 1891?? (or did we find him already?). May have to join Dea on a break!
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16 Feb 2011 14:39 |
I'd be willing to make a small wager,jax!!! Good find on that one!
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16 Feb 2011 14:39 |
Sorry - gonna have to take a little break - I am 'brain-dead' here !!
I WILL return !!
Dea Xxx
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16 Feb 2011 14:36 |
Martin as a christian name was not too common back in the 1880's so to have it as his middle name indicating that was his father looks good....but could be wrong
jax
Edit well done Dea and Maureen looks like problem solved
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16 Feb 2011 14:32 |
YYYYYYeeessssssssssss !!
We ARE on to something here Maureen.
That was indeed Henry's address on marriage cert !!
Still not sure how to connect it all though - I have been going round in circles since 8am this morning !! (tee hee!!)
Dea x
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MaureeninNY
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16 Feb 2011 14:29 |
Dea!!! I was going to point out this chap (same one????). I think this is the address on the marriage cert????
1901 census transcription details for: 10, Queensland Square, Islington RG number: RG13 Piece: 201 Folio: 132 Page: 38
Reg. District: Islington Sub District: Highbury Parish: Islington Enum. District: 34 Ecclesiastical District: St Barnabas City/Municipal Borough: Address: 10, Queensland Square, Islington County: London
MARTIN, George Head Married M 56 1845 Butchers Assistant St Pancras London MARTIN, Annie Daughter Single F 18 1883 Servant Domestic Islington London
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16 Feb 2011 14:29 |
Sorry Jax, I was busy searching when you posted and didn't refressh the page.
On the actual image of the idex it certainly says Pescott and it typewritten. I still think that it is a possibility especially in the absence of anything better!
Dea, I think it is worth leaving that there, at least until something eliminates these people. I am liking the look of George Martin the butcher - especially if the Pescott birth were to turn out to be Prescott!
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16 Feb 2011 14:26 |
do you mean i would be able to get his birth and death from there ? exellant, Emma certainly got around
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16 Feb 2011 14:24 |
The marriage cert you have can be viewed on ancestry His name was probably mistranscribed you can purchase the cert from
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
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16 Feb 2011 14:21 |
Maybe thats where the Martin as a middle name comes from Dea??
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16 Feb 2011 14:18 |
i have the marriage cert for henry/annie and it is a deff prescott for emily...you said 1880 birth is that for henry ? and where would i get it
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16 Feb 2011 14:17 |
That birth for a Henry 'Martin' Pescott spurrs me on to what I have been following all morning!
PROBABLY a 'red herring' - I can't connect it but I can't let it go either !!
Perhaps someone else can explore?
I was following the one of the witnesses at Henry's wedding - Emily Prescott.
I came across 2 likely ones in Islington on 1891 but this one caught my eye as she was living in the same house as a Perry family !
PRESCOTT, Emily Mother Head Widow F 42 1849 Nurse Islington London PRESCOTT, Emily Daughter Single F 10 1881 Islington London PRESCOTT, Annie Daughter F 8 1883 Highgate London PRESCOTT, Alice Daughter F 6 1885 Highgate London MOSS, Maude Visitor Single F 19 1872 Clerkenwell London
RG number: RG12 Piece: 148 Folio: 71 Page:4 Registration District: Islington Sub District: Upper Holloway Enumeration District: 52 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Mark Civil Parish: Islington Municipal Borough: Address: 25, Marcellus Road, Islington, London County: London ....................
NB: Image says PERRY for this family !!! :
PERCY, Walter Head Married M 37 1854 Bricklayer Islington London PERCY, Emma Wife Married F 37 1854 St Pancras London PERCY, Walter S Son M 1 1890 Hornsey Middlesex CLARK, Mary Ann Niece F 17 1874 Islington London
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Same house also has the HUNT family but I have deleted them as probably unconnected. ..............................
I couldn't trace Emily back to 1881 and could find no marriage for an Emily to a Prescott. ............
This is her in 1901 (Name on image says MOSS crossed out on image and replaced by Prescott) !! She has a visitor called Moss on 1891 so this could well be her maiden name? - Again, no marriage!)
1901: PRESCOTT, Emily Head Married F 52 1849 Living On Own Means Highgate London PRESCOTT, Emily Daughter F 19 1882 Highgate London
Ilford Municipal Borough: Address: 68, Blythswood Road, Ilford County: Essex
Note - she is now married but was a widow on 1891?? ........................
This is the marriage of the Walter Perry living in the same house as her on 1891:
Marriages Jun 1887 ***MARTIN Emma Islington 1b 341 ***Perry Walter Islington 1b 341
There was a George MARTIN who was a Butcher in Islington but he was already married?
1881 England Census about George Martin Name: George Martin Age: 33 Estimated birth year: abt 1848 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Sarah Martin Gender: Male Where born: Hampton Wick, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St Mary Islington County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 365 New Nth Rd Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Pork Butcher Emplying 1 Man Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Islington East ED, institution, or vessel: 51 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age George Martin 33 Sarah Martin 36 Annie Martin 9 Willie Martin 7 Eliza Martin 6 Rosey Martin 3 Alice Martin
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 264; Folio: 111; Page: 15; GSU roll: 1341057. .......................
Sarah Martin is a 'widow' by 1891?? ...........................
This may all be a load of nonsense and completely unconnected - If so, I will delete it to save confusion but in the absence of anything else to follow, I thought someone might like to help me explore further?
Dea x
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SherbitShandy
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16 Feb 2011 14:13 |
anyone else online who may be able to help on this
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Chris Ho :)
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16 Feb 2011 14:10 |
Just looking at the Marriage image again, witness Emily's surname does look like Pescott...
Think that 1880 Birth find would be a good buy :-)
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Chris Ho :)
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16 Feb 2011 13:55 |
1871 SELFE, John D Head M 31 1840 Middlesex VIEW SELFE, Elizabeth Wife F 23 1848 Surrey VIEW SELFE, Elizabeth Daughter F 1 1870 Middlesex VIEW PEARSON, Sarah P Sister-In-Law F 18 1853 Surrey VIEW REED, Amelia P Nurse F 47 1824 Middlesex VIEW PRESCOTT, Emily Servant F 22 1849 Middlesex VIEW *** FILLBROOK, Mary A Servant F 17 1854 Surrey VIEW RG number: RG10 Piece: 410 Folio: 14 Page: 22 Registration District: Holborn Sub District: Finsbury Enumeration District: 5 Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: St Luke Municipal Borough: Address: City Road, St Luke County: London, Middlesex
(wondering if this is the Emma on Maureen's 1881 posted earlier, could be a possible for the witness on Henry's marriage?)...just a thought, lol.
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