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RHODA AND FRANK BROOKS

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KAREN

KAREN Report 22 Feb 2011 18:44

Thank you, Margaret. Tracing family is addictive! I have been led to believe that Rhoda was cut off from her family, because she married a gardener, obviously it would be fascinating to find out if that were true.Harriet was her step mother, don`t know if they got on, was that the real reason?

Margaret

Margaret Report 22 Feb 2011 10:06

1901 census
David E Hobbs born 1853 Clanfield Hants a blacksmith
Harriet E born 1861 Portsmouth
William E born 1883 a blacksmith born Petersfield Hants
Ada born 1890 Petersfield
Bessie born 1893 Petersfield
Joseph born 1898 Petersfield

1861 Joseph Hobs a Master Blacksmith born 1823 Clanfield Hants
Jane D born 1824 Catherine Arms??Hants
Joseph D Assistant Blacksmith born 1847 Clanfield Hants
Ann Sarah born 1851 Clanfield ditto
DAVID EDWIN born 1853 Clanfield Hants
Julia born 1854 ditto
Mary 1856 ditto
James 1858 ditto
Betsy Caroline 1860 ditto.

1841 Joseph Hobs 20 yrs a Blacksmith born Hants
his father
William Hobs 45 yr molecatcher born Hants c 1796
Ma
Ann 40 yr born c 1801 Hants
siblings
John 15yr bc 1826
Henry 13 yr bc 1828
David 11 yrs bc 1830
Thomas 2 yrs born circa 1839

Hope this helps
Please bear in mind that the family comes from Clanfield Hampshire, not from Clanfield Oxfordshire.

Margaret

Margaret Report 22 Feb 2011 09:36

To save you buying the marriage certificate of Frank Brooks and Rhoda Hobbs
Stratton Audley Oxfordshire
14/8/1811 Frank Brooks 30 yrs bachelor Gardener of Heaton Norris Stockport, son of Henry John Brooks a labourer
Rhoda Hobbs 31 yrs spinster of Stratton Audley daughter of David Edwin Hobbs a blacksmith
witnesses Joseph Sidney Brooks, Alice Rebecca Brooks married by Banns

Rhoda Hobbs was not baptised in Stratton Audley, nor was her father David Edwin Hobbs.

KAREN

KAREN Report 20 Feb 2011 11:30

Traced Rhoda Hobbs mother back to 1785,and made contact with distant relatives in Devon, Thank you! Tracing Frank Brooks now, hope I do as well.

tempest

tempest Report 17 Feb 2011 18:01

wrong year but...

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about William Edgar Hobbs Name: William Edgar Hobbs
Year of Registration: 1881
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Petersfield
County: Hampshire, Sussex
Volume: 2c
Page: 156

or

maybe he swapped his names around??

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Edgar William Hobbs
Year of Registration: 1883
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Portsea Island (1837-1900)
County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 461

tempest

tempest Report 17 Feb 2011 17:57

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Ada Elsie Hobbs
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Petersfield
County: Hampshire, Sussex
Volume: 2c
Page: 134

and

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Joseph Hobbs
Year of Registration: 1897
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Petersfield
County: Hampshire, Sussex
Volume: 2c
Page: 162

tempest

tempest Report 17 Feb 2011 17:50

Bessie's birth cert will give Harriet's maiden name

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Bessie Dewey Hobbs
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Petersfield
County: Hampshire, Sussex
Volume: 2c
Page: 147

possible death

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
Name: Bessie Dewey Hobbs
Birth Date: 4 Jan 1893
Death Registration Month/Year: 1972
Registration district: Portsmouth
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 1231

tempest

tempest Report 17 Feb 2011 17:36

possibility re marriage to Harriet

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
Name: David Edwin Hobbs
Year of Registration: 1886
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Portsea Island (1837-1900)
County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 780

there are only 3 people on the record, give me time and I'll have a look to see if I can find who the missing woman is


>>>edit think this is Harriet (found eventually, same page etc) her maiden name is similar to Bessie's middle name

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
Name: Harriett Eliza Deway
Year of Registration: 1886
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Portsea Island (1837-1900)
County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 780

tempest

tempest Report 17 Feb 2011 17:27

Hi Karen,

on the 1911 census I posted previously, there are 4 children in the family; William, Ada, Bessie and Joseph.

William is 27 years old, I should imagine he is David's son from the first marriage. Therefore the 3 surviving children from the 2nd marriage to Harriet are Ada, Bessie and Joseph.

Flora is a visitor

KAREN

KAREN Report 17 Feb 2011 13:40

Rhoda`s father David Edwin Hobbs born 1853 in Clanfield,Oxfordshire married his second wife Harriet ,and according to the 1911 census they had been married for 25yrs, therefore 1911-25=1886.I can find no marriage record, also states that there were 4 children born to the marriage and 3 still alive in 1911, however all four are listed on the census,and I can find no death record for any of them.
There are two other children from a previous marriage between David Edwin Hobbs and Lucy Kinshott.....Rhoda and William.Can anyone help? I seem to be going round in circles, and I haven`t even started on my other grandparents yet!!!

KAREN

KAREN Report 16 Feb 2011 09:12

It looks like could be on right track,because of letter with same address and also I have heard of an Aunt Ada mentioned! Unfortunately I have no one to ask, my family have passed away,doing research now, for my young sons.Thank you for all help given, very grateful.

Lynski

Lynski Report 15 Feb 2011 23:50

Just a thought.......

Jack is very often another name for John so keep this in mind when wondering who Jack Hobbs is - he could be John Hobbs?

tempest

tempest Report 15 Feb 2011 23:28

1881 census - household transcription
Address: Dragon St, Petersfield

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

HOBBS, David E Head Married M 28 1853 Blacksmith Clanfield Hampshire
HOBBS, Lucy Wife Married F 26 1855 East Meon Hampshire
HOBBS, Rhoda Daughter Single F 2 1879 Petersfield Hampshire
HOBBS, William E Son Single M 0 1881 Petersfield Hampshire
HOBBS, James Brother Single M 22 1859 Blacksmith Assistant Clanfield Hampshire
KINGSHOTT, George Alber Nephew Single M 15 1866 Blacksmith Assistant Micheldever Hampshire
GARDNER, Moses Lodger Widower M 67 1814 Blacksmith Assistant Up Marden Sussex


looks like Rhoda and William were from first marriage if we have the correct family here and Ada, Bessie and Joseph were from the second marriage

tempest

tempest Report 15 Feb 2011 23:17

1911 census
Address: 23 Chapel Street Petersfield

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

HOBBS, David Edwin Head Married M 58 1853 Blacksmith And Wheelwright Clanfield Hants
HOBBS, Harriet Elzia Wife Married 25 years F 50 1861 Portsmouth Hants
HOBBS, William Edgar Son Single M 27 1884 Blacksmith Petersfield Hants
HOBBS, Ada Elsie Daughter Single F 21 1890 Telephone Operator Petersfield Hants
HOBBS, Bessie Dewey Daughter Single F 18 1893 Student Teacher Petersfield Hants
HOBBS, Joseph Son M 13 1898 School Petersfield Hants
ELOY, Flora Visitor Single F 36 1875 Assistant Teacher Dover Petersfield Kent Hants


hmmm ................. original says married 25 years, 4 children born to marriage, 3 still alive in 1911

tempest

tempest Report 15 Feb 2011 23:14

Daniel changes his name for 1901 census - household transcription
Address: 23, Chapel Street, Petersfield

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

HOBBS, David E Head Married M 48 1853 Blacksmith Clanfield Hampshire
HOBBS, Harriet E Wife Married F 40 1861 Portsmouth Hampshire
HOBBS, William E Son Single M 18 1883 Blacksmith Petersfield Hampshire
HOBBS, Ada E Daughter F 11 1890 Petersfield Hampshire
HOBBS, Bessie D Daughter F 8 1893 Petersfield Hampshire
HOBBS, Joseph Son M 3 1898 Petersfield Hampshire

tempest

tempest Report 15 Feb 2011 22:45

Hi

The Druries on The High Street, Harrow on the Hill is one of the houses/ boarding houses of Harrow Public School

http://www.harrowschool.org.uk/1550/boarding/druries/

KAREN

KAREN Report 15 Feb 2011 22:36

the mesage left by Lynne re..1911 census Rhoda Hobbs has the same address, that`s on a letter I have from a Jack Hobbs (The Duries,High Street, Harrow on the Hill) so looks a good match.However don`t know who he is yet , I do know he`s not THE Jack Hobbs (cricketer)Thanks to you all for helping.

tempest

tempest Report 15 Feb 2011 20:40

1891 census ..... I think the head of house is actually David not Daniel
Address: Chapel Street, Petersfield

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

HOBBS, Daniel E Head Married M 38 1853 Blacksmith & Iron Monger Clanfield Hampshire
HOBBS, Harriett E Wife Married F 30 1861 Portsmouth Hampshire
HOBBS, Rhoda Daughter F 12 1879 Scholar Petersfield Hampshire
HOBBS, William E Son M 10 1881 Scholar Petersfield Hampshire
HOBBS, Ada E Daughter F 1 1890 Petersfield Hampshire

tempest

tempest Report 15 Feb 2011 20:39

1901 census - household transcription
Address: Langhurst House, Chiddingfold

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

BOYD, Elizth Head Widow F 42 1859 Living On Own Means Manchester Lancashire
BOYD, Hugh F Son M 10 1891 Kensington London
BOYD, Juliana F Daughter F 8 1893 Kensington London
BOYD, Mary E F Daughter F 2 1899 Kensington London
TINDALL, Constance E Servant Single F 25 1876 Governess Manchester Lancashire
TAYLOR, Ann Servant Single F 32 1869 Nurse Domestic Manden Bedfordshire
COLEMAN, Maria Servant Single F 27 1874 Cook Domestic Houghton Hampshire
STANDING, M A Servant Single F 27 1874 Par Maid Domestic Horsham Sussex
COLLISTER, Mary Servant Single F 32 1869 Housemaid Domestic Bletchingley Surrey
HOBBS, Rhoda Servant Single F 21 1880 Kitchen Maid Domestic Petersfield Hampshire

Catherine

Catherine Report 15 Feb 2011 20:39

Both the dates in the 1911 census that Ann posted for FB and the 1911 census that Lynne posted for RH fit with the deaths of Frank Brooks in Stockport in 1939 and Rhoda Brooks in Stockport in 1966.

Catherine